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Eddie Benitez Offers $50K Psychic Challenge

grunion

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According to the "Sprititual Pathways" column of the Phoenix Examiner website, "musician and spiritualist" Eddie Benitez believes that psychics like Sylvia Browne and James Van Praagh are "frauds who are conning vulnerable people out of their money." He is offering $50,000 to them or to any psychic who can prove "communication with the spirit world." It sounds from the article as if he expects to film a psychic showdown with any of these con artists to prove that only his visions are the real ones.

Benitez was featured in a recent episode of the Discovery Channel show "A Haunting" in which he claimed communication with paranormal spirits.

So here we have a true believer taking a page out of Randi's book in an attempt to corner the market. One wonders if any of these media hungry frauds who have been ignoring Randi's challenge might take this guy up since undoubtedly the atmosphere would be quite a bit more favorable. And they get to be on TV. But no way will $50K be enough.
 
Actually I think he stands a big chance of screwing up if the Discovery Channel mentality sets the level of scientific rigor required to get the prize.
 
Actually I think he stands a big chance of screwing up if the Discovery Channel mentality sets the level of scientific rigor required to get the prize.

Agreed. That would be a fiasco.
 
He should be able to win it himself so he can show the rigorous standards that must be met. Once he demonstrates his own powers, I'm sure he'll have a long line of claimants who will be happy to match his achievements and take his $50K.

Ward
 
I'm the Phoenix Examiner: About Eddie's Challenge

Hello. I wrote the article about the Eddie Benitez challenge to psychics, mediums and ghost hunters. I would like to weigh in with a couple of things from myself, and also from Eddie.

First, there seems to be an assumption in this thread that because Eddie was featured in an episode of the Discovery Channel show, A Haunting, that the Discovery Channel is involved in this challenge Eddie is putting out there.

This challenge is from Eddie — and it will be filmed by Eddie. The person setting the criteria is Eddie. It's a personal challenge, between Eddie Benitez and any psi takers.

The money is not Eddie's. The challenge is being sponsored by Creative Music Entertainment, an East Coast promotions company, as stated in the article. Eddie himself has no interests held in that company.

When I wrote the article I thought of Randi's long-standing million dollar challenge which has never been paid out. I gave props to an earlier challenge. Having said that, if you feel Eddie has "taken a page out of Randi's book" then Eddie would like to point out that Randi has taken scores of pages out of Harry Houdini's book. It's a free market.

Having said that — the offer of money if spirit communication can be proven is where any and all similarities in the challenge stop.

Eddie's challenge is spiritual, not scientific, though the criteria will not allow for trickery and the obvious fraudulent scams.

Eddie is a true believer yes — which is precisely why he is in a position to
gauge authenticity. Eddie has spiritual gifts and yes, he is matching his gifts, which he asserts are authentic — in a challenge to others. Someone with an authentic gift, could walk away with $50k. The rest, with their heads down.

Grunion wrote: "It sounds from the article as if he expects to film a psychic showdown with any of these con artists to prove that only his visions are the real ones." Let's be clear. Eddie's does not claim to have "visions." He claims to have real communication and encounters with spirits, and angels. Not visions.

Let's also be clear what the other differences between Eddie Benitez and Randi are. Randi is a magician. A skeptic. A "materialist" (a eupemism for atheist). Randi's criteria are for magic, not even paranormal purposes.

Eddie is a man of faith, not religion. He is not a magician. Spirituality is what he teaches, faith in God, and in the Son of God, Jesus. (Who is not God, but God's son.) He believes the spirit realm is real, and that there are spirits from God, and also demonic spirits. He believes mediums, if they have spirit contact, are consorting with the dark side, spirit imposters who claim to be the spirits of the dearly departed.

Determining the authenticity of the spirits and where they come from is one thing. Because some of these mediums and psychics and ghosthunters are playing with forces they do not recognize and are gullibly being used. Others are simply charlatans using tricks and cons.

I am also at work on Eddie's biography, Angels on My Stage, so my knowledge of Eddie's world and beliefs goes beyond the short article you refer to.

My own credentials are both in the media and academia. I'm a veteran broadcaster, published author, freelance writer — and a clairvoyant. (Not mediumship.) I'm also a theolgian, with two graduate degrees in theology, studies that, btw, led to my rejection of all organized religion. I too, am in the spirituality, not religion camp.

Eddie would like it to be known that he is willing to meet James Randi in a challenge at any time. He has offered to tell Randi the date and time of his "ascension" as well.

On the other hand, he wonders why, if Randi is never going to really engage in a challenge and give the million dollars away — why doesn't he donate that money to the Randi Educational Foundation and ease the need for donations?


I hope this helps to further your conversation. Thank you.
 
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On the other hand, he wonders why, if Randi is never going to really engage in a challenge and give the million dollars away — why doesn't he donate that money to the Randi Educational Foundation and ease the need for donations?

It is not James Randi's money. The money was donated to the JREF for the purpose of the challenge.

What do you mean by "if Randi is never going to really engage in a challenge" - ? The Challenge has been in operation for years with hundreds of applicants and preliminary tests.

Please see this section of the forum for current applicant activity: [Million Dollar Challenge]
 
Eddie is a man of faith, not religion. He is not a magician. Spirituality is what he teaches, faith in God, and in the Son of God, Jesus. (Who is not God, but God's son.) He believes the spirit realm is real, and that there are spirits from God, and also demonic spirits. He believes mediums, if they have spirit contact, are consorting with the dark side, spirit imposters who claim to be the spirits of the dearly departed.

Mary Ellen - I think it's fantastic that you came and posted here! Welcome!

I have a question about the part I quoted above...If a challenger took Eddie's challenge but it was determined that they were consorting with demon spirits, would that be considered a successful test and would the sponsor have to pay out the $50k?

Chris
 
Based on MaryEllen O'Brien's comments, I look forward to seeing Benitez' objective testing protocols and criteria. What do 'pass' and 'fail' look like?
 
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When I wrote the article I thought of Randi's long-standing million dollar challenge which has never been paid out. I gave props to an earlier challenge. Having said that, if you feel Eddie has "taken a page out of Randi's book" then Eddie would like to point out that Randi has taken scores of pages out of Harry Houdini's book. It's a free market.

Having said that — the offer of money if spirit communication can be proven is where any and all similarities in the challenge stop.

Eddie's challenge is spiritual, not scientific, though the criteria will not allow for trickery and the obvious fraudulent scams.

How so?

Eddie is a true believer yes — which is precisely why he is in a position to gauge authenticity.

:notm
Ever heard of confirmation bias?

Eddie has spiritual gifts

Proof?

and yes, he is matching his gifts, which he asserts are authentic — in a challenge to others. Someone with an authentic gift, could walk away with $50k. The rest, with their heads down.

Grunion wrote: "It sounds from the article as if he expects to film a psychic showdown with any of these con artists to prove that only his visions are the real ones."Let's be clear. Eddie's does not claim to have "visions." He claims to have real communication and encounters with spirits, and angels. Not visions.

Visions, communication and encounters, whatever. The thing is, he's making a paranormal claim.

Let's also be clear what the other differences between Eddie Benitez and Randi are. Randi is a magician. A skeptic. A "materialist" (a eupemism for atheist).

You say that as if "atheist" is a bad thing.

Randi's criteria are for magic, not even paranormal purposes.

Uh, no. Have you done any research on the Million Dollar Challenge at all?

Eddie is a man of faith, not religion. He is not a magician. Spirituality is what he teaches, faith in God, and in the Son of God, Jesus. (Who is not God, but God's son.) He believes the spirit realm is real, and that there are spirits from God, and also demonic spirits. He believes mediums, if they have spirit contact, are consorting with the dark side, spirit imposters who claim to be the spirits of the dearly departed.

So he's a woo. Yeah, kinda guessed that. Again, confirmation bias.

Determining the authenticity of the spirits and where they come from is one thing. Because some of these mediums and psychics and ghosthunters are playing with forces they do not recognize and are gullibly being used. Others are simply charlatans using tricks and cons.

I take it, then, that you are likewise a believer. Therefore, you also have confirmation bias.

I am also at work on Eddie's biography, Angels on My Stage, so my knowledge of Eddie's world and beliefs goes beyond the short article you refer to. My own credentials are both in the media and academia. I'm a veteran broadcaster, published author, freelance writer — and a clairvoyant. (Not mediumship.)

O_o

O RLY NAO

Have you ever subjected your powers to scientific study?

I'm also a theolgian, with two graduate degrees in theology, studies that, btw, led to my rejection of all organized religion. I too, am in the spirituality, not religion camp.

Congrats.

Eddie would like it to be known that he is willing to meet James Randi in a challenge at any time. He has offered to tell Randi the date and time of his "ascension" as well.

Well, then it's up to "Eddie" to apply to the Challenge. It's open to all comers, but they must initiate the process. Randi isn't going to go around asking all woo-ists if they want to take the challenge.

On the other hand, he wonders why, if Randi is never going to really engage in a challenge and give the million dollars away — why doesn't he donate that money to the Randi Educational Foundation and ease the need for donations?

See the section of the forums titled "Million Dollar Challenge"? Click it. Every thread you see in there is a separate challenge filed by people like Eddie. Every one of them has failed.
 
CJW,

No, consorting with demonic spirits would not win the prize. Because those folks always insist the spirits they are aligned with are good and from "God" though they never engage in discernment of spirits — maybe afraid of the answer. So yes, their is belief in possession by, or channeling spirits that are anything but good. That is then, fraud. No one is going to go to a medium and say, "would you ask your little demon buddy to get my deceased grandmother over here for a conversation." The believe it's grandma. They want to believe it. And so the conjurer gives them what they want — but it's a lie.

This is not something Randi would bother with, I take it, since he does not believe in the spirit world to begin with.
 
According to the "Sprititual Pathways" column of the Phoenix Examiner website, "musician and spiritualist" Eddie Benitez believes that psychics like Sylvia Browne and James Van Praagh are "frauds who are conning vulnerable people out of their money." He is offering $50,000 to them or to any psychic who can prove "communication with the spirit world." It sounds from the article as if he expects to film a psychic showdown with any of these con artists to prove that only his visions are the real ones.

Benitez was featured in a recent episode of the Discovery Channel show "A Haunting" in which he claimed communication with paranormal spirits.

So here we have a true believer taking a page out of Randi's book in an attempt to corner the market. One wonders if any of these media hungry frauds who have been ignoring Randi's challenge might take this guy up since undoubtedly the atmosphere would be quite a bit more favorable. And they get to be on TV. But no way will $50K be enough.

Looks to me like he's just garnering a little publicity for himself, knowing full well that those competitors named will never allow themselves to be tested. Heck, it's a win-win for the entire bunch.


M.
 
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Eddie is a man of faith, not religion. He is not a magician. Spirituality is what he teaches, faith in God, and in the Son of God, Jesus. (Who is not God, but God's son.) He believes the spirit realm is real, and that there are spirits from God, and also demonic spirits. He believes mediums, if they have spirit contact, are consorting with the dark side, spirit imposters who claim to be the spirits of the dearly departed.



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Eddie sounds like a fairly immature person. Or maybe just a good self-promoter in the woo economy. In any event, he gets no special dispensations here. His beliefs are really a bit of a yawn, frankly.


M.
 
And atheism isn't a confirmation bias? LMAO. I made no judgment on Randi's position, simply contrasted Randi with Eddie — they are coming from two different places in their challenge.

Eddie doesn't claim to be a paranormal purveyor — but a man who is spiritual. He says if someone uses the word paranormal about him, that's their issue, not his. If someone confuses spirituality with the paranormal, that is their issue, not his.
 
CJW,

No, consorting with demonic spirits would not win the prize. Because those folks always insist the spirits they are aligned with are good and from "God" though they never engage in discernment of spirits — maybe afraid of the answer. So yes, their is belief in possession by, or channeling spirits that are anything but good. That is then, fraud. No one is going to go to a medium and say, "would you ask your little demon buddy to get my deceased grandmother over here for a conversation." The believe it's grandma. They want to believe it. And so the conjurer gives them what they want — but it's a lie.

And what are the criteria for determining if a given spirit is "demonic" or not? I think I spy a back-door escape route for our "psychic" friend here...

This is not something Randi would bother with, I take it, since he does not believe in the spirit world to begin with.

On the contrary, this is EXACTLY what the Million Dollar Challenge is all about.
 
As to subjecting myself to scientific study. I don't have "powers." I have sight.

Clairvoyance is an art, not a science. It is also NOT mediumship. I don't have anything to prove, and I don't claim to speak to the deceased loved ones of people who come to me.
 
A spirit should be asked one question: Do you believe that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh.
No spirit that is not from God will answer that in the affirmative.
And that test has been around for 2,000 years.
 
CJW,

No, consorting with demonic spirits would not win the prize. Because those folks always insist the spirits they are aligned with are good and from "God" though they never engage in discernment of spirits — maybe afraid of the answer. So yes, their is belief in possession by, or channeling spirits that are anything but good. That is then, fraud. No one is going to go to a medium and say, "would you ask your little demon buddy to get my deceased grandmother over here for a conversation." The believe it's grandma. They want to believe it. And so the conjurer gives them what they want — but it's a lie.

This is not something Randi would bother with, I take it, since he does not believe in the spirit world to begin with.


I am making an assumption here, but isn't it possible that a demonic spirit may employ deceptive tactics in consorting with a medium? It may be that the demon spirit has the medium utterly convinced that the medium is talking to a good spirit or directly to the deceased.

If the medium can convince Eddie that he or she is in touch with the spirit world, then the next step is validating the quality of the contact (good versus evil). The following situation could arrise under this scenario: both parties are in agreement about spirit contact but according to Eddie it is a Demonic contact. The medium disagrees insisting it is a genuine, good contact.

I would think that under this scenario, there could legal exposure for Eddie and he could find himelf subject to a lawsuit. Its a big risk.
 

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