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Ed Schultz rules!

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RandFan said:


I know that this is off topic and if you would like I could start another thread. I was just responding to you.
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Thanks for derailing the thread. I have dismissed you as a person with whom it is constructive to hold conversations, so you'll understand if I decline your offer. I couldn't care less what you think of my opinions any more.
 
I wonder if you have been watching Dennis Miller of late? When he first started his show I thought it was awful. Now it is the only thing I schedule myself around. It comes on 6:00 pm pacific daylight time. I think he is really good and he is an example of a liberal who has become conservative and supports the war and George W. Bush.

I like you Sundog, I really do but I think you assume that left leaning ideology is somehow superior to right leaning ideology and that if those on the right would only open their minds they would find the truth just like woo-woos who study science with an open mind will often find the truth.

One more thing. I would not recomend you posting to this forum if you are so easily offended as you have been in the past. When you tell people that they are wrong they are going to respond and sometimes they are going to respond forcefully. Some of us doen't like to be treated like we are children who haven't figured out the truth.
 
RandFan said:

I like you Sundog, I really do but I think you assume that left leaning ideology is somehow superior to right leaning ideology and that if those on the right would only open their minds they would find the truth just like woo-woos who study science with an open mind will often find the truth.
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Bingo.

If you don't like my threads, you are invited to avoid them. And I thank you for your concern, but I will continue saying just exactly what I damned please.
 
Sundog said:


Some of the true lefties don't like him because he used to be conservative. I say, just listen to the guy.
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I for one don't mind. We need some more liberals with that firy, direct approach. Glad to see we have one of them on our side now, getting the message out.
 
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Sundog said:
Thanks for derailing the thread. I have dismissed you as a person with whom it is constructive to hold conversations, so you'll understand if I decline your offer. I couldn't care less what you think of my opinions any more.
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Well that is unfortunate. I'm sorry to hear that. I know that you are very thin skined. I would ask you why you think that you as opposed to me are constructive to hold conversations with but I guess you won't answer. I will say that you are very opinionated and get upset when you are challanged. I whish someone would tell me how I am any different? BTW, unlike many of the people who are on this forum I will admit when I am wrong. I am also someone who will apologize.

Ignore me if you must but I am going to respond to you. I would recomend you putting me on your ignore list.

I hope the best for you I really do. I have no hard feelings and I'm sorry you do.

RandFan.
 
Sundog said:
Bingo.
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Wow, I hadn't expected that admission. Thank you.

If you don't like my threads, you are invited to avoid them. And I thank you for your concern, but I will continue saying just exactly what I damned please.
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On the contrary, I like your threads and will be involved. I promise to not take the thread off topic. However, if you make a point that is off topic (as you did regarding your sig) then I think that it is appropriate to respond to that point. BTW, I offered to start a new thread.

RandFan
 
Sundog said:
I will say this: The difference with liberal talk radio is FACTS. Real, verifiable, written-down facts. Liberals read, unlike neocons.
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May I suggest Larry Elder as a conservative (he claims to be a libertarian) who speaks on subjects and uses facts to back himself up. I understand he can also be found on XM radio so if you never listened to him do give him a try. At the very least he brings up some good points that one may not have considered before.
 
RandFan

I like you Sundog, I really do but I think you assume that left leaning ideology is somehow superior to right leaning ideology and that if those on the right would only open their minds they would find the truth just like woo-woos who study science with an open mind will often find the truth.

Sundog
Bingo.
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Those who think they know the truth are the least likely to find it. The difference between you and I is that you know the truth and I'm skeptical. I question everything.

If you were wrong about something how could you possibly find out?

Sorry, I'll hope soemone else can answer for you.
 
Renfield said:


I for one don't mind. We need some more liberals with that firy, direct approach. Glad to see we have one of them on our side now, getting the message out.
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Kewl. Please educate me. What message does a liberal have not covered by "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need"?
 
Sundog said:


Bingo.

If you don't like my threads, you are invited to avoid them. And I thank you for your concern, but I will continue saying just exactly what I damned please.
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I'm sorry, but I do not mean to derail your thread either but I do feel this is somewhat related to the subject. Which of the left-leaning ideologies are superior to right leaning? I ask partly because I want to know which ideology you consider left and which you consider right (aside of course from the obvious ones.)
 
RandFan said:
Wow, I hadn't expected that admission. Thank you.

On the contrary, I like your threads and will be involved. I promise to not take the thread off topic. However, if you make a point that is off topic (as you did regarding your sig) then I think that it is appropriate to respond to that point. BTW, I offered to start a new thread.

RandFan
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At some point in the future I may feel differently. Right now I am so VERY angry at the terrible position you righties have placed us in that I really can't discuss it unemotionally. When we get you out of power maybe I'll calm down.

Or maybe not. Join Skinny in the "Sundog's an overemotional jerk" line if you like. But don't go all superior on me regarding being emotional, you rant and rave far more than I do.

Now do you have something on topic to say?
 
Grammatron said:


May I suggest Larry Elder as a conservative (he claims to be a libertarian) who speaks on subjects and uses facts to back himself up. I understand he can also be found on XM radio so if you never listened to him do give him a try. At the very least he brings up some good points that one may not have considered before.
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Thank you, after such a polite request I shall make it a point to do so.
 
Sundog said:
I will say this: The difference with liberal talk radio is FACTS. Real, verifiable, written-down facts. Liberals read, unlike neocons.
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How would you know? This is a specious argument. I would ask you to prove your claim but you won't respond to me so I will ask if anyone else who can prove your claim.

BTW, Rush Limbaugh presents lots of facts and he is really quite smart and he has read allot. I disagree with him often and he makes a lot of bad arguments and gets things wrong but I have heard Liberal commentators make poor arguments and get the facts wrong. I can't begin to list the times that I have yelled at the radio because some Liberal radio personality screwed something up.
 
Grammatron said:


I'm sorry, but I do not mean to derail your thread either but I do feel this is somewhat related to the subject. Which of the left-leaning ideologies are superior to right leaning? I ask partly because I want to know which ideology you consider left and which you consider right (aside of course from the obvious ones.)
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Sure thing. I consider true, Pat Buchanan-type conservatism an honorable and intelligent position. I consider the NeoCons an abomination, as do true conservatives. I do not necessarily line up behind any leftist philosophy other than NeoCons Are Evil, which is plenty for this election year.
 
Sundog said:
At some point in the future I may feel differently. Right now I am so VERY angry at the terrible position you righties have placed us in that I really can't discuss it unemotionally. When we get you out of power maybe I'll calm down.
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I don't know who us righties are. The right is not monolithic. I'm against the influence of the religious right, the erosion into civil liberties and I support the right of a woman to choose, for the ending of the drug war and for legalization of prostitution. If that makes me a righty then so be it.

Or maybe not. Join Skinny in the "Sundog's an overemotional jerk" line if you like. But don't go all superior on me regarding being emotional, you rant and rave far more than I do.
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I'm trying hard, I really am. I don't claim any moral superiority and I regularly admit my failings. In the fire Rumsfeld thread I have not lashed out or acted emotionally.

Now do you have something on topic to say?
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I'm willing to listen to Ed Shultz and I will listen to him with an objective mind if you will listen to Larry Elder with an open mind?
 
RandFan said:

I'm willing to listen to Ed Shultz and I will listen to him with an objective mind if you will listen to Larry Elder with an open mind?
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You've got a deal.
 
Sundog said:
You've got a deal.
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Cool, you can listen to Dennis Miller if you prefer.

I'm in Souther California, does anyone know when and what station Ed Shultz is on.
 
Sundog said:


Sure thing. I consider true, Pat Buchanan-type conservatism an honorable and intelligent position. I consider the NeoCons an abomination, as do true conservatives. I do not necessarily line up behind any leftist philosophy other than NeoCons Are Evil, which is plenty for this election year.
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I do not consider myself lefty or righty. I try to approach each subject open-minded and draw the best conclusions I can based on the facts I am presented with. As such, my position on the subject can and sometimes does change if the facts that are presented contradict or trump those on which I previously based my conclusion. I do not think that following blindly a group that leans either way politically is a good idea.

I do not like to be classified as part of any group or ideology, but I suspect many on this forum would put me on the right.
 
RandFan said:
Cool, you can listen to Dennis Miller if you prefer.

I'm in Souther California, does anyone know when and what station Ed Shultz is on.
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Although I have not tested it, the website that Sundog provides in the opening post provides a link to listen to the show on the net.
 
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