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[Ed] Norwegian woman who claims she can talk to horses

Quakeulf

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I am terribly sorry for this use of coarse language but now I am on the verge of going on a killing spree with a 16-barreled shotgun to maim and torture every person out there who has ever claimed to be able to speak to animals.

To clarify things, my girlfriend is very naive (but turning 22 soon), and believes in woo, people who claim they can communicate with animals and the easter bunny. As she is a bit careless with her economy too (girls...) she has to sell her horse to be able to afford the payment to fix her car.

Today a "woo"-person (middle-aged woman by the name of Elisabeth-something) came to the stables where my girlfriend has her horse, and she met my girlfriend there (I was not attending as I was working), and she started "talking" to her horse. What she said was some of the lamest bull**** I have ever heard, almost as if our very dear Geller was channeled though her. I mean, I even I could have come up with that stuff without hardly any effort at all! So now my girlfriend has been crying to me on the phone about all the nice things the horse "told" her and how sad she is that she has to be sold and that she always wants to be with her and how she dislikes winter and loves summer etc., and I had to painfully listen though all that crap and feign sympathy but all the time I felt like killing that woman who told her that for toying with her emotions like that, but also I wanted to tell my girlfriend how incredibly naive she is for believing that cr*p and eating it all up like it was free candy.

I really want to tell my girlfriend in the best possible way that the quack-woman did her wrong and she was stupid for believing in her, but I seriously don't want to ruin our relationship either, and right now she is crying like mad (I will see her later tonight, don't worry about that), so I would really love to know when and how to propose her with the fact that she has been screwed royally like a cheap thai ****. I have shown her this site, this forum, everything from the JREF. As she likes Mythbusters I have even shown her the appearance of Adam and Jamie on the amaz!ng meeting, but to no avail.

I know my language is way too coarse for this forum but right now I don't ******** care as I am so incredibly fed up with this **** that I could punch a hole through the wall. :mad:

Please help me before I lose it. :(

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I talk to my cat all the time we dont understand each other but that doesent mean he is not talking to me .
Leave the poor girl alone if she wants to think her horse is talking to that lady let it be she is allready hurting enough haveing to sale it .
Have a heart man consider her feelings not yours for a change .
 
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Difficult situation. I'd devise some kind of test where it would become evident whether that woman can indeed talk to animals. If you know who she is and if your gf will be seeing her again that could be done.
 
I don't drink caffeinated drinks and I don't want to put up with quackery either, especially when it comes to toying with emotions like that and it is not even for entertainment. She just made stuff go from bad to worse for her.

I have a heart and feelings too (besides it is not like I have confronted my girlfriend with my real thoughts just yet). Can a man not even rage online?
 
Quakeulf, calm down and stop screaming. You're going to make your throat horse.
 
El Greco said:
Difficult situation. I'd devise some kind of test where it would become evident whether that woman can indeed talk to animals. If you know who she is and if your gf will be seeing her again that could be done.
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I'd love to test her, but my girl couldn't quite remember her name exactly and Google isn't exactly helping me so far (must be the Norwegian). I know of the Norwegian skeptics society, and they could possibly help a fellow out with this.
 
Quakeulf said:
I am on the verge of going on a killing spree with a 16-barreled shotgun...
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A 16 barreled shotgun? Yaay! Do you have pics?

Quakeulf said:
To clarify things, my girlfriend is very naive...
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Oh, well, thats easy then. Pay a few bucks to some stranger and have them show up as a "real" psychic and have the horse say that the other fakir was trying to molest it. Then, have the horse say that all it really wants is another owner to love and care for it and it really wants to help out by being sold to said owner.

Either that, or expose your GF to the awful truth: horse's are not capable of complex, high-level thought necessary to be able to communicate with humans on any kind of meaningful level. Anyone who claims to be able to do so should be publicly exposed as a charlatan.
 
What a frustrating situation for you! It's not easy to see one's loved ones fooled. However, I'm not certain that "talking" to her horse before she sells it is necessarily a bad thing. It may be that the woman did not so much increase you girlfriend's total grief as move her forward in the grieving process.

Just a possibility that you may want to consider before breaking out otherwise fabulous words like "falsifiability". With a talking horse, at least your girlfriend gets to say goodbye.
 
madurobob said:
horse's are not capable of complex, high-level thought necessary to be able to communicate with humans on any kind of meaningful level. Anyone who claims to be able to do so should be publicly exposed as a charlatan.
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Good to see you are with me on this one. At least someone is with me on this one. I know very well myself that there is something rather odd with being able to just "talk" to animals, that there's something I wouldn't exactly take lightly if occured.
 
Ask her why her horse would talk to that lady, and not to her? Why no one else in history? If this was normal, wouldn't we hear about it everyday?
 
juniper_ann said:
With a talking horse, at least your girlfriend gets to say goodbye.
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I don't know if I should laugh or cry...

Well, I sort of have to confront her with it sometime. I really don't want her to be fooled by other things as well...
 
You don't need to turn your girlfriend into a skeptic or make anyone go through testing in this situation. She is sad and anxious about letting go of her horse and this woman tapped into that anxiety. We all get sad and anxious at the idea of change (and we have less practice at it when we are younger). Regardless of whether or not the horse imagines it will be sad after the change (:rolleyes:) you girlfriend can proceed with her plans, just like we manage to leave home for the first time, even though it will make our parents sad (at least sometimes :)). You can make a statement about how we tend to project our own thoughts and feelings onto animals, and that maybe that was all she and the pet psychic were doing. But don't argue the point. Just be sympathetic and listen. You don't need to use this situation to fix the larger problem.

Use your anger to figure out what sort of constructive activity you could undertake instead (something that has nothing to do with your girlfriend) - start a blog, look for local organizations like a skeptics' group and join, look into laws and regulations (maybe there's somewhere you could send a complaint), write letters to the editor, etc.

Linda
 
Why not hire your own psychic to come talk to the car. I'm assuming the horse is healthy, but the car, I'm sensing it's in pain. :D

Happy Birthday, btw.
 
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