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Marrena said:
That's sort of my point, that's why the placebo effect works.
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I get what you are saying. But I am not sure the placebo effect applies to people doing magic. If some one takes some sugar pills for a back problems and claims it is gone that’s a placebo effect. See because there is an “effect” there. Now someone casting a spell over something they have no control over or contact with is more like playing a game of pretend. It’s like me using spells to try and cause an “effect” to the end of a movie I am watching. In reality I have a “NO effect” on the out come not a “placebo effect.”

-Kyle
 
But witches don't cast those sort of spells, or at least they aren't supposed to. I've only done that twice--once on the Red Sox and once on Karl Rove. Witches only do spellwork on others when asked by them, so the spellee would know in that case--otherwise witchwork is mostly done on oneself.

Protection spells are the exception, but that's usually more to return the hostile energy to the source, or to deflect the blow. For example I did a deflection spell on Loss Leader to return his hostility to himself, but that was more a spell to not let it affect me. Witches tend to be people with porous psychological boundaries.
 
Marrena said:
I do believe in magic. I just don't believe it's real.
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Could you explain how this isn't a contradiction?

I can mitigate these effects by increasing my serotonin level, but then I lose the orgasms.
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Serotonin shmerotonin -- keep these effects.

And then finally there's the tantric sex. I've had at least forty orgasms a day most days for the past six years or so, and I've had some remarkable physiological changes from that. I am firmly convinced these results are caused simply by the nervous system reacting in a certain way to certain stimulus, but aside from normal vaginal and clitoral orgasms, I also have orgasms centered in the chest and in the forehead that have very odd spiritual sensations that accompany the physical pleasure, and also once I had the very unusual experience of having an orgasm at the top of my head which was certainly a religious experience--I lost all sense of self, felt at one with the cosmos, lost track of time, it lasted about fifteen minutes. I know some drugs can produce a similar effect, it's purely physiological, but it's hard to just dismiss that out of hand, especially when the experience was clearly the natural experience of a healthy body. Our bodies are built to have these higher chakra orgasms.
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You had me with the tantric sex and forty orgasms but started to lose me with the orgasms centered in the chest and in the forehead. Call me a traditionalist.

What are the names of these drugs :rolleyes:
So putting all that together, it certainly doesn't meet the definition of extraordinary claims require extraordinary truth, but from my point of view it would be irrational not to be openminded about such things, particularly when the health and psychological benefits of belief are so good. Having the conviction that one has some power over the universe is an encouraging thing, even if in my beliefs it's an alternate universe, that only obliquely touches the real one.
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You can't argue with forty orgasms. May the chakras be with you :)
 
Marrena said:
you can peruse

www.erowid.org

and get some names.
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That is an informative site, thanks. Who knew I was drinking a psychoactive drug when posting? I always knew beer was a gateway drug to sex (it's shameful for me to recount but I will as a precautionary tale to other posters the many times women have taken advantage of me while I've been under the influence of beer. I shudder to recount the morning I woke up naked on the sorority couch.) Yet, beer only creates a sexual atmosphere, it really doesn't make for better sex (unless we're talking beer goggles and I won't go there). Beer doesn't equal 40 O's a day. I'm familiar with caffeine as well and that doesn't equal 40 O's.

Come on, which drug opens the flood gates ;)
 
Oh, I thought you were wanting religious experiences without having to go to the bother of all the orgasms. If you want automatic mystical experiences, then something like fly agaric or LSD would do the trick, although far too dangerous for my tastes. I like having a functioning brain.

If it's orgasms you are after, it's much easier. Go on my diet. Men tend to respond within a week. Men should not take iron, but everything else is the same. It will increase libido, rigidity, and unfortunately may worsen premature ejaculation. If you are wanting the male equivalent of forty vaginal orgasms a day, which would be prostate orgasms, continue with the diet and use the Aneros. It's trickier for men to develop prostate orgasm ability than for women to develop vaginal orgasm ability, but the men who have, some leave me in the dust in terms of their orgasmic capacity. Your mileage may vary.
 
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Week at the full dose--you should take at least a full week to ramp up, two weeks might be better. If you are only going to try the fish oil, take with multivitamin. Check with your doctor about drug interactions. Do not take high-dose fish oil if you are on blood-thinning drugs like Coumadin, take lots of OTC pain relievers, are on aspirin therapy, are scheduled for surgery, are allergic to seafood or have a defibrillator. Get a fish oil brand with EPA + DHA > 500 mg per one one-gram capsule, otherwise you will probably have digestive problems from the extra fish guck at this high dose.

130-pound person EPA 1700 mg, DHA 1300 mg daily
230-pound person EPA 3400 mg, DHA 2600 mg daily

dosages are approximate, adjust dosage to your weight, do not exceed the 230-pound maximum dosage, people under 100 pounds should check with a doctor or nutritionist for safe dosage. Discontinue if you notice excessive bleeding or bruising.

For best results, avoid all transfats and omega-6 fatty acids like polyunsaturated vegetable oils like corn oil, soybean oil, etc. Olive oil and butter are good, saturated fat is good. Avoid caffeine, energy drinks, alcohol before sex (although I see you noticed that one), cigarettes, and meals consisting only of starchy and/or sugary foods.
 
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Anyone who is thinking of eating large quantities of fish oil, unless he is an Inuit, should use extreme caution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_oil
However, the preferred source of Omega 3 should be from the fish's body, not the liver. The liver and liver products (such as cod liver oil) of fish and many animals (such as seals and whales) contain Omega-3, but also the active form of vitamin A. At high levels, this form of the vitamin can be dangerous. Early explorers to the land of the Inuit were given raw liver by the natives, which contained a toxic overdose of vitamin A for the white explorers; however, the same amount was harmless to the Inuit, who had no other source of Vitamin A except animal livers.
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I said fish oil, not cod liver oil. Fish oil does not contain Vitamin A and D like cod liver oil does, there is no danger of vitamin toxicity. There are other dangers with too high a dosage of drug interaction, which I warned about in the post.

I think that's a pretty mild case of advertising but I will remove the post if you wish.
 
Marrena said:
If you are wanting the male equivalent of forty vaginal orgasms a day, which would be prostate orgasms, continue with the diet and use the Aneros. It's trickier for men to develop prostate orgasm ability than for women to develop vaginal orgasm ability, but the men who have, some leave me in the dust in terms of their orgasmic capacity. Your mileage may vary.
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I have some experience with this and am pretty convinced that you are not going to get more than three a day out of most men. Granted the best three you have ever had but there are some limiting factors. And if it is not done correctly the guy can feel empty with out being fulfilled. I dated a professional Dominatrix back in my wilder days.
 
Prostate orgasms do not involve ejaculation. There are men over at the Aneros board who are able to have dozens of prostate orgasms in a row, and their descriptions of their sensations and also their comparisons with traditional male ejaculation orgasms correspond to my own observations and observations from other women with the ability to have both about the difference between clitoral and vaginal orgasms.

Of course stimulation of the prostate can aid in a regular male orgasm, just like stimulation of the vagina can help a clitoral orgasm along!
 
Marrena said:
I do believe in magic. I just don't believe it's real.

Let me put it this way. In another thread I'm talking about neurotransmitters. I've had very high dopamine for a very long time from taking very high doses of fish oil.
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I can mitigate these effects by increasing my serotonin level (... snip)
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Marrena,
How do you know that you have very high dopamine. What kind of test was administered that provided a dopamine level measure? How do you know you are increasing your serotonin level - again I'm asking what tests are done to provide evidence of it.
 
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