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Earthquakes?

Well, for example my ex said to me "If you're such a hot witch, can't you do something about the Red Sox?" They were down three against the Yankees. If the Red Sox had lost, he would have said it proved that my magic didn't work. Now they happened to win, and keep winning. They won because they were good players and played well, and the Yankees choked.

I'm sure lots of people were hexing on that game, and praying and whatnot, I'm not saying I did anything. And if it was magic, there wouldn't be a way to untangle it from the rest of it, from the real world. But I'm glad I did it anyhow.
 
Well, for example my ex said to me "If you're such a hot witch, can't you do something about the Red Sox?" They were down three against the Yankees. If the Red Sox had lost, he would have said it proved that my magic didn't work. Now they happened to win, and keep winning. They won because they were good players and played well, and the Yankees choked.

I'm sure lots of people were hexing on that game, and praying and whatnot, I'm not saying I did anything. And if it was magic, there wouldn't be a way to untangle it from the rest of it, from the real world. But I'm glad I did it anyhow.

Ok, then riddle me this. What if there were two people who god loved the same, the first praying for team 1 to win and hexing team 2. Then the other person praying for team 2 to win and hexing team 1. Then let’s say everything else being completely equal in all ways, what happens? Who wins? Does god just smite both teams to make everything fair? Or will the universe implode over a quagmire like this? Maybe god will decide to sit this one out because he/she can’t choose favorite over his/her followers

I personally don’t think prayer does anything expect give people hope and a feeling of power over situations they have no control of. Let’s say a loved one is hurt. People will pray for that person to recover. Then if they do all credit is given to god and it is evidence that prayer works. Now if the loved one dies then they will give god credit still, but this time for taking their loved one to a better place. They seem to dismiss that prayer didn’t work in that situation, but continue to believe that prayer does work. What good is prayer if god will just do as he/she wants anyways?

-Kyle
 
Well, for example my ex said to me "If you're such a hot witch, can't you do something about the Red Sox?" They were down three against the Yankees. If the Red Sox had lost, he would have said it proved that my magic didn't work. Now they happened to win, and keep winning. They won because they were good players and played well, and the Yankees choked.

I'm sure lots of people were hexing on that game, and praying and whatnot, I'm not saying I did anything. And if it was magic, there wouldn't be a way to untangle it from the rest of it, from the real world. But I'm glad I did it anyhow.


Dear witch,


Please put a hex on the Bruins, the Sabres, and especially the Maple Leafs. And throw a little good mojo towards the Canadiens.
 
The only reason I could do the Red Sox thing was because it was fighting fire with fire--it was the curse of the Bambino. :D I hexed Babe Ruth and kept him occupied during the games. By the way, they won that World Series under a lunar eclipse. :p

What good is prayer if god will just do as he/she wants anyways?

You answered your own question--it makes people feel better
 
I hexed Babe Ruth and kept him occupied during the games.

LOL...that is pretty funny :p

You answered your own question--it makes people feel better

Well good at least we can agree on that.

BTW, I find conversations with you very interesting. You seem very open to logic and reason no mater the subject. You are not completely devoted to any cause or way of thinking. You openly admit that magic isn’t real. Everything about you there has critical thinker written all over it. But at the same time you defend magical thinking and study astrology. You participate in hexing and prayer. And most of all openly tell people you are a “Green Witch.” Now I mean no offence by any of this. You have great qualities as a person with out a drought. I just find all of it a bit interesting. For example, you are a “Green Witch” but you do not believe in magic. So in turn you do not believe in what you practice. You do not have faith in something that requires faith to do. Do you not see the irony in that? Or is there another reason behind what you believe vs. what you claim to be? You don’t have to answer I am just curious.

-Kyle
 
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I do believe in magic. I just don't believe it's real.

Let me put it this way. In another thread I'm talking about neurotransmitters. I've had very high dopamine for a very long time from taking very high doses of fish oil. Unlike having high dopamine from street drugs, high dopamine from fish oil doesn't impair the rational faculties--if anything, omega-3 fatty acids make one smarter. And unlike with schizophrenia, it's not a disease. I'm simply following the healthy diet we evolved on as humans, of a very well-fed hunter-gatherer. I happen to like being this way, the orgasms in particular. I work hard to stay in this brain state.

I am using myself as an extreme guinea pig and I'm taking higher doses of fish oil than I recommend to women. This has amplified a tendency that I have had since I was a child, of seeing another realm overlaying this one. There is an uncanny feeling of "walking with God," and it's hard to ignore the direct evidence of one's senses. In this realm astrology is very accurately predictive, and I use it much like a weather report. I know, for example that when the moon is opposing my natal Saturn, there will be a heaviness in my day, a mild depression and fatigue, and I can plan ahead.

I can mitigate these effects by increasing my serotonin level, but then I lose the orgasms.

It also explains why certain odd things happened in my past, which I posted a couple years ago so I've heard all the rational arguments as to why they were just coincidence, that when I cursed my ex-husband within hours a tree fell on his car, that I woke up in a cold sweat yelling on the morning of 9/11 from a dream that bad men were coming here to die, that my grandmother came to visit me and my aunt when she was in a coma and dying.

And then finally there's the tantric sex. I've had at least forty orgasms a day most days for the past six years or so, and I've had some remarkable physiological changes from that. I am firmly convinced these results are caused simply by the nervous system reacting in a certain way to certain stimulus, but aside from normal vaginal and clitoral orgasms, I also have orgasms centered in the chest and in the forehead that have very odd spiritual sensations that accompany the physical pleasure, and also once I had the very unusual experience of having an orgasm at the top of my head which was certainly a religious experience--I lost all sense of self, felt at one with the cosmos, lost track of time, it lasted about fifteen minutes. I know some drugs can produce a similar effect, it's purely physiological, but it's hard to just dismiss that out of hand, especially when the experience was clearly the natural experience of a healthy body. Our bodies are built to have these higher chakra orgasms.

So putting all that together, it certainly doesn't meet the definition of extraordinary claims require extraordinary truth, but from my point of view it would be irrational not to be openminded about such things, particularly when the health and psychological benefits of belief are so good. Having the conviction that one has some power over the universe is an encouraging thing, even if in my beliefs it's an alternate universe, that only obliquely touches the real one.
 
Damn you. I was reading all of the magic jive and stuff about hexing and the like, and I was fully prepared to come on in and be a confrontational prick.

Then you mentioned the curse of the Bambino and that the Yanks choked in that series.

You're good people, and I dig the interesting perspectives you have. Find a way to intersect the mega-sex with baseball and you have a fan for life.

Oh... but keep your herbs and spices away from the Cubs... I have money on them this year. Cheers.;)
 
I think they're pretty cool even if they can't actually do magic. Hard to dislike a religion where you do ritual naked outside, have ritual orgies, have sacred baths with lots of nice-smelling bath oils and things, and burn lots of incense.

Oh, and there's the herbal thing. I only take a little damiana here and there on rare occasions, but good to know one's options.
 
When I said:
You seem very open to logic and reason no mater the subject. You are not completely devoted to any cause or way of thinking. You openly admit that magic isn’t real. Everything about you there has critical thinker written all over it.

I take it all back because you made this statement:
In this realm astrology is very accurately predictive, and I use it much like a weather report. I know, for example that when the moon is opposing my natal Saturn, there will be a heaviness in my day, a mild depression and fatigue, and I can plan ahead.

I can’t stand that kind of non-sense way of thinking. Ok guy grab the witch. I’ll go and get my floggers gear and meet in my back yard. We will flog some sense into this witch yet.:p

-Kyle
 
Flogging raises dopamine. Don't need it, coals to Newcastle!

I was with a dom and he remarked I went into subspace from a back massage the way other women went in from a sound spanking. And I get runner's high from a brisk walk. :D
 
Ok then since you like being flogged so much you leave me with only one option. Put the witch on the catapult. We will send her to the next village and make her their problem. And please don’t tell me you had an ex boy friend who used to catapult you around. If that’s the case I give up. :p

-Kyle
 
Imagination isn't exactly real, but reality tends to emerge from it. The precursor of a blue-print is thought itself...even though thought is quite intangible.
 
Marrena, I have to say, I have met some crazy people who live under the nomenclature "witch." In all honesty, I had become prejudiced in my skepticism. I suppose it was too many ex-girlfriends putting "curses" on my "aura of self being" and stuff like that. One even called baseball "a pseudo-sport that is nothing more than a collection of pagan rituals stolen by Christians."

Figure that one out.

You have cleared me of my prejudice and, in my mind, have become the exception to the crazy rule. Thanks for slapping my mind into submission. ;) Cheers!
 
Wicca was a fad for a while, especially with teenaged girls (thanks to the TV series The Craft) and before that, militant lesbians. Those groups seem to have lost interest in it and moved on to other things, and all the fluffy bunny and Dianic (man-hating) spellbooks have been remaindered.

I suppose I'm not really hardcore myself either. I stay away from the hard herbs. The flying ointment recipes I have would most DEFINITELY make you fly when applied to mucus membranes with a broom handle or other long cylindrical object--or kill you.
 
Wow. Thank you for letting us know that!

I found a "flying ointment" on Wiccapedia (get it? har har!) and was about to apply it to a broom. You might have just saved my life!

I have a friend who swears by a particular herb that "makes all food taste glorious, all music that of angles, and the most divine of comedy the inspired laughter of god." I don't know about that, but it certainly makes him want to play video games a lot.:rolleyes:
 
Correction: Angels (not angles)

Yeah, an herb that makes music measurable through use of a protractor.
 

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