Dylan Avery Gets Schooled By The BBC (Video)

[Edx]

The way that they presented didn't sound derogatory. Calling him a film-school reject sounds more derogatory to me. Their point essentially seemed to be that his film was successful, despite his level of education, it wasn't an attack.

Its just one part of the whole misrepresentative whole, nicepants. On its own it wouldnt be such a big deal, but coupled with everything else, it is more so.

I would have to refer to the video....do you have an approximate timestamp?

I'll get back to you with the time.

 

[cisco]

Sure its derogatory, but film school reject is still accurate while "self confessed drop out" implies he is a quitter that now makes CT movies in his room. One implies something worse.

Ok, so the BBC was wrong. They were wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. They were wrong. Way wrong. They were wrongety wrongety wrong. They were wronger than Wrongey McWrongerson, the honorable Mayor of Wrongville. They were conducting the Wrongtrain from Wrongerstown to Wrong Station and wearing a giant Wrong Sombrero all the while.

Dylan is absolutely not a drop out who makes CT movies in his room. He is a film school reject who makes CT movies in his room.

Is that what you wanted to hear? Can we move on to a topic with substance now?

 

[Edx]

WTF?!?! Are you joking? Did you NOT see the dictionary meaning? Now you are trying to argue on it being valued based on it being well used in documentation?

I have already talked about the dictionary definiton, I cannot be said to have dropped out of a course or group I never attended or was never apart of. I challenge you again to show me where people have used the term drop out to mean what the producer claimed it meant in the UK, that dropout means someone who didnt go on to University. All your faffing about with dictionaries shows me you're like the Creationist who hold adamently to the idea that atheism is a religion. Although at least they have one vague definition that makes everything a religion, your definition of drop out doesnt even support you anyway.

How about this, I will do that for you when you prove beyond any doubt that the intent was to slander or mislead people. Please prove to us that his intent was unarguably to belittle Dylan by up playing his situation instead of revealing that he was rejected.

Ive already talked about that and youve ignored it, you really think Im going to waste my time again when you cant even accept that calling Dylan a drop out was incorrect?

Ok, so the BBC was wrong. They were wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. They were wrong. Way wrong. They were wrongety wrongety wrong. They were wronger than Wrongey McWrongerson, the honorable Mayor of Wrongville. They were conducting the Wrongtrain from Wrongerstown to Wrong Station and wearing a giant Wrong Sombrero all the while.

Dylan is absolutely not a drop out who makes CT movies in his room. He is a film school reject who makes CT movies in his room.

Is that what you wanted to hear? Can we move on to a topic with substance now?

Yes, they were wrong. Thankyou. That was only one of many points I brought up against it, though for some reason people seem to fixate on this one.


Ed

 

[beachnut]

Dylan is absolutely not a drop out who makes CT movies in his room. He is a film school reject who makes CT movies in his room.

Reject, not a dropout. That does sound much better. "self proclaimed reject", get that correction to the BBC (now roid man Alex Jones will be happy)

 

[Jonnyclueless]

I have already talked about the dictionary definiton, I cannot be said to have dropped out of a course or group I never attended or was never apart of. I challenge you again to show me where people have used the term drop out to mean what the producer claimed it meant in the UK, that dropout means someone who didnt go on to University. All your faffing about with dictionaries shows me you're like the Creationist who hold adamently to the idea that atheism is a religion. Although at least they have one vague definition that makes everything a religion, your definition of drop out doesnt even support you anyway.



Ive already talked about that and youve ignored it, you really think Im going to waste my time again when you cant even accept that calling Dylan a drop out was incorrect?


Ed

So if you talked about the dictionary issue you should then clearly see where it points to you being completely wrong. And just because it isn't commonly used does not change that. And it has already been explained to you how it applies in this case and was clearly the interviewer trying to be polite. You are trying to take the term in meanings to literal enrollment, which is clearly not what is meant in this case. And again, this has already been explained to you. For you to continue with this nonsense just shows you are clearly being dishonest here.

In the UK it most certainly CAN mean someone who didn't go to a university. Just like it can mean that anywhere. Again, this has already been explained to you over and over. Why are you going in circles here? And you are comparing US to creationists? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Oh the irony o irony. You seriously don't see the irony in that claim???? LOL!!!

I haven't ignored anything kid, you just want to live in denial here and are trying to make something out of nothing. You have been proven wrong over and over and can't let it go. I don't know why we're wasting time on you. And again, I am sure that you think you are being original here.

I still can't stop laughing over the creationist comment. Much like a creationist tries to use absurd distortion on dictionary terms out of context to try to claim evolution is not valid. You're no different.

 

[Arus808]

talk about semantics. REALLY WHO the @#$% cares?!!!!

Dylan said he was a "drop out"
BBC used it in a "positive" sense, seeing tha LC WAS SUCCESSFUL! (by saying he was a "self-professed dropout". REALLy, Edx you're the one playing hte SEMANTIC game.

IF dylan didn't want to be cast as a "dropout" then HE SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT HE WAS A DROPOut!

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jeez louise!


Now when are you going to show us what BBC got factually WRONG with theories presented by the COnspiracy nuts, INCLUDING dylan?

 

[Drudgewire]

Now when are you going to show us what BBC got factually WRONG with theories presented by the COnspiracy nuts, INCLUDING dylan?

Everything obviously. He knew if he could prove we and the BBC ever used suspect wording at any point, that would be conclusive evidence 9/11 was an inside job.

So way to freakin' go, guys who caved. Clean out your NWO desks immediately. And you can shove your severance packages.

 

[Edx]

Last post for a while

talk about semantics. REALLY WHO the @#$% cares?!!!!

The producer tried to deceive, sorry.

IF dylan didn't want to be cast as a "dropout" then HE SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT HE WAS A DROPOut!

He didnt, thats the point.

Now when are you going to show us what BBC got factually WRONG with theories presented by the COnspiracy nuts, INCLUDING dylan?

Ive already talked at length about the other problems. Tell you what later on I'll come back and make a list, but theres lots of other points Ive already talked about right here in this thread,

I'd like to respond to another comment in this thread that says im overreacting. What Im reacting to is the unbelievable hypocrisy of many of the people in this thread. They literally said its fine and dandy to be dishonest as long as they are attacking CTs. If you object I will be back with quotes proving that if you'd like to deny what people have written in this thread.

 

[Arus808]

The producer tried to deceive, sorry.

NO he didn't
He, repeated what DYLAN stated. How many times must this repeated to you?

He didnt, thats the point.

If DYlan didn't state that he was a drop out, then why would the BBC state "self professed dropout".

Do you understand what self professed means?

Ive already talked at length about the other problems.

NO you haven't. Yu point out "problems" that you thought were "problems" ,which IN the real world aren't any problems

WE have asked you repeatedly what was FACTUALLY Wrong with the show that BBC presented; and to DATE you have provided NOTHING.

Do you know what FACTUALLY wrong means?


I dont see what is wrong, Edx, we asked you what was factually wrong. YOU didn't provide that.
BBC interviewed the Conspiracy NUTS and they STATED their theories. BBC then took those claims from these nuts, and went to the EXPERTS, the EYEWITNESSES, and the PEOPLE who were there that day, to get their SIDE of the story, aND THEIR statements.

NOW tell us, how was BBC factually wrong?

 

[cisco]

The producer tried to deceive, sorry.



He didnt, thats the point.

You said we could move on. Stick to your word.

 

[Walter Ego]

Oh this is [rule10]ing ridiculous. Do you know how effing hard it is to get kicked out of film school? Provided you turn up, fling an attempt at an essay at your tutors close enough to the dealine, and maybe come.

Gosh, do you think Dylan should have thought about this when he described himself as a drop out

Edx is simply not going to give this up. About half the posts on this thread are about this stupid dropout question. This has gone past the point of insanity.

Do the Google for ‘Dylan Avery dropout’ and you’ll see the truthers ceased on this one dubious and irrelevant point in the BBC program and used it to discredit the entire show and Edx is doing the same. He got the talking points from Alex Jones (the Rush Limbaugh of the truther movement) and is just reading them off the print out. To no purpose. For distraction. Deliberately.

This is typical truther BS. The BBC called Dylan a dropout so we can discount the BBC. Popular Mechanics is a magazine about tractors so we can discount Popular Mechanics. A dweeb in upstate New York with a Radio Shack laptop and an internet connection is smarter than that all those experts anyway. The BBC didn’t interview my favorite CT loon so they are biased, ect., ect., ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

It a dog chasing it own tail and thinking its getting somewhere when it’s really just going around in circles. Forever. Endlessly. Deliberately. For no purpose other that to distract.

 

[Arus808]

Edx is simply not going to give this up. About half the posts on this thread are about this stupid dropout question. This has gone past the point of insanity.

Do the Google for ‘Dylan Avery dropout’ and you’ll see the truthers ceased on this one dubious and irrelevant point in the BBC program and used it to discredit the entire show and Edx is doing the same. He got the talking points from Alex Jones (the Rush Limbaugh of the truther movement) and is just reading them off the print out. To no purpose. For distraction. Deliberately.

This is typical truther BS. The BBC called Dylan a dropout so we can discount the BBC. Popular Mechanics is a magazine about tractors so we can discount Popular Mechanics. A dweeb in upstate New York with a Radio Shack laptop and an internet connection is smarter than that all those experts anyway. The BBC didn’t interview my favorite CT loon so they are biased, ect., ect., ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

It a dog chasing it own tail and thinking its getting somewhere when it’s really just going around in circles. Forever. Endlessly. Deliberately. For no purpose other that to distract.

Which is why we should drop the drop-out issue and push Edx on this:

What did the BBC get FACTUALLY wrong?

 

[Walter Ego]

I'm confused, Dylan Avery describes himself as a "drop out" to the filmakers, the film makers apply that description in their presentation of Dylan.

Dylan and Alex leap on this singular point, as it's unfair, because, technically Dylan never managed to get in, to drop out. A producer botches his response to this spurious non issue.

Have I got this right?

Are they really this desperate as to get this tenuous?

You are right. It is spurious. It is a not issue. It is a distraction. It is dis-info. It was the only thing Dylan could find wrong in the film and he pounced on it like a vulture on carrion and Edx is doing the same thing.

Most likely Dylan did tell the BBC he was a dropout meaning he was a dropout from society but given his tenuous relationship to veracity of any sort there’s no telling what he meant. But that is of no importance. The truthers have their cudgel to beat the BBC over the head and they are going to use it forever and endlessly for the sole purpose of distraction.

 

[Walter Ego]

Which is why we should drop the drop-out issue and push Edx on this:

What did the BBC get FACTUALLY wrong?

He'll just avoid the question and keep going back to the dropout issue. We have seen how his mind works… circles, circles and more circles.

 

[Arus808]

He'll just avoid the question and keep going back to the dropout issue. We have seen how his mind works… circles, circles and more circles.

yes, then we shouldn't fall in to that "circle" jerk and just simply return to asking him to provide what BBC got factually wrong with the show.

we all agree, the drop-out claim is irrelevant,


So, please Edx what was factually wrong with the BBC docu?

 

[beachnut]

You are right. It is spurious. It is a not issue. It is a distraction. It is dis-info. It was the only thing Dylan could find wrong in the film and he pounced on it like a vulture on carrion and Edx is doing the same thing.

Most likely Dylan did tell the BBC he was a dropout meaning he was a dropout from society but given his tenuous relationship to veracity of any sort there’s no telling what he meant. But that is of no importance. The truthers have their cudgel to beat the BBC over the head and they are going to use it forever and endlessly for the sole purpose of distraction.

Is he going to protest the wunderkind statement next? "It was a hit piece, they called me a wunderkind"

 

[nicepants]

Its just one part of the whole misrepresentative whole, nicepants. On its own it wouldnt be such a big deal, but coupled with everything else, it is more so.

Now that I think about it, calling him a dropout is giving him too much credit. Dropouts at least get in, and Dylan didn't even make it that far.

I look forward to seeing your list of the factual errors in the film.

 

[HawksFan]

Man, I'm glad my teachers didn't grade tests the way he's grading this documentary when I was in school.

Teacher: You got this question wrong, therefore your entire test is wrong! You fail!!!

 

[cisco]

Let the dropout thing go. He said in post 143 he'd let it go, so let's give him a chance to do so.

 

[Brainster]

They didnt touch on a lot of arguments they could have, but you honestly dont see a problem with such blatent misrepresentation? You think a ratio of 9 debunkers to 3 is fair and unbalenced?

Unbalanced yes. Suppose you were doing a documentary on Holocaust Denial. Would you be "fair" with your audience if you presented a program that concluded that there's good evidence on both sides?

This is, quite honestly, the problem that rational documentary producers encounter with the "Truthers". Oh, sure, the first time they deal with one, they'll be dazzled by the array of "facts" presented. My goodness, seven of the hijackers are still alive? Maybe these fellows actually have something. But then they'll dig into the claim and discover it's a load of hogwash. And after about 10 instances of that, they'll start to realize that this is, as they suspected in the first place, just a lunatic conspiracy theory.

I have been contacted by several documentary producers and radio show producers. And without fail after the necessary introductions have been made, they will ask me, "Are these people really serious?"