Dylan, and money.

[beachnut]

... the they, who is they? not very specific. (is that a veiled opinion) Who cares if the IRS takes them down for not paying taxes?

The big question for Dylan is. Are you too dumb to see you are telling lies about 9/11? Or, is LC the fraud you know it is and you just like the Money?

They found a market for their lies, he is a success at selling lies. They can speed 30,000 dollars marketing their lies in one weekend. How many weekends will 1,000,000 dollars fund. Yes I understand if we knew their income stream we could see when they will fade away based on market saturation and some economic reasons even the NUT CASE Morgan could help with. When is that day, one very smart reporter will make his career showing the world the fraud of LC. Who out there can package the story of LC fraud so the world will see liars who disrespect those who died on 9/11 by spreading lies. Who can put it together and get the people who are being bilked to rise up and see the light. It could be a study on cult like groups, who buy lies and act dumb.

I have decided not to wait for 9/11 truth movement to provide facts and I have to agree with the declare victory over 9/11 truth movement Thread!

Will they find that selling the rights to LCFC is as bad as the Beatles one day found...

Young idealist selling lies to idiots. Wow, that makes it better? How does fraud ever have a good idealistic side? How dumb do you have to believe they are not in it for the money? Yet, there is a possiblity our LC guys are too dumb to know it is fraud and who does not have a plama TV and the best computers in their cult compound headquarters. (pagan stop drinking the Kool-Aid)

 

[tonicblue]

I emailed Dylan Avery to ask him

"How much money have you made out of your movie ?

Lots?
Lots and lots ?
Lots and lots and lots ? "

His reply "In a word...no.
We spent over $30,000 on the weekend below and didn't ask for a dime from people.
http://stage6.divx.com/content/show/1029060
Care to ask me a legitimate question? How about maybe an introduction of some kind? That way we can converse, ya know, like adults?
-Dylan "

Shoots himself in the foot here. How come he can spend tens of thousands of dollars, if he's not making a profit ?

You don't know what profit is.

 

[Horatius]

On the other hand, they did have a former IRS agent on Louder than Words Radio today, telling them that there is no real law that says Americans have to pay income taxes on wages.

Ah, but these wouldn't be "wages", they'd be gains from a business selling product. So even under their wacky tax theories, he's still screwed.

 

[Horatius]

You don't know what profit is.

So you're saying he had the $30 000 just lying around, waiting to be spent?

Or maybe it was "profit" from earlier sales. He then re-invested it in his marketing plans, in hopes of generating more profit.


Maybe. Just possibly maybe.

 

[tonicblue]

Profit is what is left after all the expenditure has been deducted from income. The 30,000 is expendiure.

 

[William Rea]

Not telling us != Not telling the IRS

No.

Not telling us! = mind you own bloody business

Unless he is required by any laws to publicly disclose his accounts then quite frankly, what business is it of yours?

If you have any substantial proof he is doing anything illegal like tax evasion then report him to the authorities.

This forum after all only works with facts doesn't it.

 

[Horatius]

Not telling us! = mind you own bloody business

If you have any substantial proof he is doing anything illegal like tax evasion then report him to the authorities.

This forum after all only works with facts doesn't it.

That was exactly my point. You acted like asking if he's made money from 9/11 was equivalent to accusing him of tax evasion. I was simply pointing out your flawed assumption. It is entirely possible that he's both paying all his taxes, and concealing his income from his followers (and us), in order to avoid looking like a profiteer.

And he's probably not the only one:

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=6086

Any buyers?

 

[Horatius]

Profit is what is left after all the expenditure has been deducted from income. The 30,000 is expendiure.

And where did that $30 000 come from? And was that all he got from that source? And how much additional revenue did it generate? Was it more or less than $30 000?

He went from unemployed kid, living on his friends' couches, to someone with at least $30 000 lying around. Is he still living on couches? No? So does that indicate he has more or less than that $30 000?

 

[LashL]

No.

Not telling us! = mind you own bloody business

Unless he is required by any laws to publicly disclose his accounts then quite frankly, what business is it of yours?

If you have any substantial proof he is doing anything illegal like tax evasion then report him to the authorities.

This forum after all only works with facts doesn't it.

William, I think you misinterpreted Horatius' point. Read it again while recognizing that "!=" means "does not equal". You seem to have moved the ! and the = and misunderstood his point.

 

[Horatius]

William, I think you misinterpreted Horatius' point. Read it again while recognizing that "!=" means "does not equal". You seem to have moved the ! and the = and misunderstood his point.

Ah! I hadn't considered that possibility!

 

[tonicblue]

And where did that $30 000 come from? And was that all he got from that source? And how much additional revenue did it generate? Was it more or less than $30 000?

He went from unemployed kid, living on his friends' couches, to someone with at least $30 000 lying around. Is he still living on couches? No? So does that indicate he has more or less than that $30 000?

They have a company, LTW. The companies assets are separate from his. If you want to claim [profit then the burden of proof is on you to show that the company makes profit and they draw from it. Proceed.

 

[gumboot]

They have a company, LTW. The companies assets are separate from his. If you want to claim [profit then the burden of proof is on you to show that the company makes profit and they draw from it. Proceed.

Assumably he is eating and what have you. That sort of thing cannot be claimed as a legitimate company expense. Thus anything like that is personal expenditure, which means it is personal income.

Also, in general response, I wouldn't call his Plasma screen huge.

-Gumboot

 

[tonicblue]

Assumably he is eating and what have you. That sort of thing cannot be claimed as a legitimate company expense. Thus anything like that is personal expenditure, which means it is personal income.

Also, in general response, I wouldn't call his Plasma screen huge.

-Gumboot

You don't think he should be allowed to eat? Other filmmakers that have produced films on 911 that support the official account get to eat from their labour.

 

[Horatius]

They have a company, LTW. The companies assets are separate from his. If you want to claim [profit then the burden of proof is on you to show that the company makes profit and they draw from it. Proceed.

They could be paying themselves salaries, which would reduce the company profits. But nit-picking about company vs. personal profit isn't the issue. He makes money off 9/11. It's his only known source of income, and he's not living in poverty. He had no money to start with, and now he has some. Where else would it have come from?

Does he have any other source of income? Is he living off a trust fund? The kindness of strangers? No? Then he makes money off his company, which makes money off 9/11. And it's probably good money, otherwise he wouldn't be so embarassed about admitting it to his followers.

 

[gumboot]

You don't think he should be allowed to eat? Other filmmakers that have produced films on 911 that support the official account get to eat from their labour.

Did I say he's not allowed to eat?

All I am saying is that sort of expenditure is income, and he has to pay tax on it.

-Gumboot

 

[Horatius]

You don't think he should be allowed to eat? Other filmmakers that have produced films on 911 that support the official account get to eat from their labour.

Hey, con men and thieves have to eat too, so should we just ignore them?

 

[tonicblue]

They could be paying themselves salaries, which would reduce the company profits. But nit-picking about company vs. personal profit isn't the issue. He makes money off 9/11. It's his only known source of income, and he's not living in poverty. He had no money to start with, and now he has some. Where else would it have come from?

Does he have any other source of income? Is he living off a trust fund? The kindness of strangers? No? Then he makes money off his company, which makes money off 9/11. And it's probably good money, otherwise he wouldn't be so embarassed about admitting it to his followers.

A salary is not profit. Many journalists have earned their salary reporting 911, are they profitting from 911? No.

 

[tonicblue]

Did I say he's not allowed to eat?

All I am saying is that sort of expenditure is income, and he has to pay tax on it.

-Gumboot

But it isn't profit.

 

[maccy]

They have a company, LTW. The companies assets are separate from his. If you want to claim [profit then the burden of proof is on you to show that the company makes profit and they draw from it. Proceed.

Actually, as I understand it, an LLC is more like a partnership and all the income passes through to the partners in the enterprise (presumably Dylan, Korey and Jason) - they then pay personal tax on that income. In other words, all the profits go directly to them.

 

[tonicblue]

Actually, as I understand it, an LLC is more like a partnership and all the income passes through to the partners in the enterprise (presumably Dylan, Korey and Jason) - they then pay personal tax on that income. In other words, all the profits go directly to them.

But you still have to prove there are profits.