Dubai Address hotel fire

FalseFlag said:
The purpose of this thread is not to make conclusions of any kind, even though yours are obviously in jest. Everyone involved in the 9/11 debate should be watching this and paying attention to everything. We can make conclusions later.
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What?

Did this involve planes?

I paid attention and did not see or hear of any.

Conclusion made now.

Happy New Year.
 
FalseFlag said:
Did WTC7 involve planes?
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We have already shown that the hotel fire in Dubai did not involve planes, yet when we pointed out that the fires in wtc7 were not fought, you declared it irrelevant.

this entire thread has been a fiasco for you since the beginning and you are in way over your head.

Chalk it up to experience and move on.
 
FalseFlag said:
Wrong. You have a high-rise building on fire. WTC 1, 2 and 7 were high-rise buildings on fire. Yes, the construction is different, and yes, their performance during a fire is going to be different, but they are all high-rise buildings that are on fire or were on fire. There are enough similarities to make this relevant.

This fire and this thread is relevant, and you know it. The end result might not be conclusive to either side, but right now it's still relevant.
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Low-rise, high-rise, medium rise,... so what? Does fire care how tall a building is? Does fire behave differently if a building is 20 stories tall than if it is 40 stories tall?

60?

The qualifier is irrelevant to how fire behaves and you have already acknowledged the complete dissimilarity of the two situations in terms of the design and construction of the buildings in question and the nature of the damage and fires they suffered, so still no demonstrated relevance to anything that happened on 9/11.

What are we supposed to learn here, that buildings can burn?

Great, got it.
 
Dave Rogers said:
And severed the water main, preventing any effective firefighting in WTC7.

Dave
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This also links to the ConEd case that Bailey presented his testimony. They lost because they could not show the designers/builders should have foreseen these events. WTC7 was not poorly built or a defective design, it was just not bullet proof. ;)
 
FalseFlag said:
Multiple explosions in the past few minutes. They appear to be going off towards the bottom of the building.
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rwguinn said:
From a building wired with celebratory lights AND PYROTECHNICS, and on fire in the vicinity of this lights and pyrotechnics.

Your point?
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It's pretty obvious what the point is. Explosions do not make a building collapse.
 
Childlike Empress said:
I have it on good authority that what's burning there is a German-made heat insulation system based on Polystyrene that is known for being vulnerable to ignition.
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I wonder about the building codes (or lack thereof) in the Arabian nations. Wasn't it just a few years ago that the decorative cladding of a high rise burned up?
 
The Address Hotel was a concrete structure, not a steel-frame.
Active and passive fire suppression was not compromised in any way: Water had full pressure, all fireproofing was in place, firestops were unbroken - all these things were different in the WTC.
The Dubai fire department could send fully manned and equipped fire brigades to fight the fire effectively - big difference to WTC7, which was left to burn unfought
As a result, the Dubai fire never spread to the inside - there was not build-up of dangerous gas temperatures under the ceilings. Fire on the outside looks spectacular, but allows the structure to freely radiate off heat, such that the structure doesn't heat up dangerously.

This is, I believe, the third such highrise fire in Dubai in 2015 alone, there was another in the fall of 2014, IIRC - all having the same pattern: Exterior cladding burns spectacularly, spreading fast over the skin, but never wandering inside. Seems that this sort of plastic cladding is very popular in Dubai and not forbidden by national and local Codes.

Every time, a Dubai skyscraper burns its skin, Truthers create stupid memes:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/286311730249/permalink/10153699423650250/

Truthers don't look, truthers don't see, truthers don't think, truthers don't understand. That's why truthers are truthers and love stupid memes.
 
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