Dreams and their "meanings."

[Crazycowbob]

I have gone from thinking its pure baloney to maybe there is something in this. Just got to cut through the kerfuffle first to find the truth if any. I'm going to sit on the fence with this one.

Can it be answered why our minds code something. How many times have you gone to do something and can't or have a mental block? How many times has the answer staring you in the face, yet you didn't see it? Maybe, I just think this fits the cause here, it takes something else to break stalemate created. A coded dream or odd thought might just be the key. Perhaps our minds are overloaded or consumed with one particular thing that it can't cope with it and again the way around the processing of it is to try a different avenue. We would go another route if a street was blocked by traffic would we not. Why not out minds.

Well you won't; because your happy. Damn you get miserable. See below.


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I think I'm going to have to sit on the fence with you on this one, as I really can't say one way or the other what I think influences dreams. Even myself, there have been some dreams where I could say "Yeah, I was doing/thinking about that yesterday, and lo-and-behold, I dreamt about it!", but there have been a lot of times where what I dreamed had little to do with anything that had been on my mind, and I wonder if perhaps it was my subconcious saying hello, look at this...

ETA: CC, mind if I PM you?

 

[Corpse Cruncher]

I think I'm going to have to sit on the fence with you on this one, as I really can't say one way or the other what I think influences dreams. Even myself, there have been some dreams where I could say "Yeah, I was doing/thinking about that yesterday, and lo-and-behold, I dreamt about it!", but there have been a lot of times where what I dreamed had little to do with anything that had been on my mind, and I wonder if perhaps it was my subconscious saying hello, look at this...

ETA: CC, mind if I PM you?

Yes, sure you can PM me. But no I won't lend you money without an overinflated hyped up interest charge. I also demand your home, contents and soul as collateral.

Have a cushion to sit on the fence, these points get a bit bothersome after a while.

 

[Crazycowbob]

Yes, sure you can PM me. But no I won't lend you money without an overinflated hyped up interest charge. I also demand your home, contents and soul as collateral.

Have a cushion to sit on the fence, these points get a bit bothersome after a while.

Hmm, well, home is rented, contents add up to about $5.38, but soul is all yours!

As for the fence, I thought the pointy things were part of the fun?

 

[Molinaro]

I have a recuring dream that somewhat relates to teeth.

I find myself chewing some gum, and I decide to throw it away. I grab the gum and pull it out of my mouth, but the gum is stuck to one of my teeth. I pull on the gum and it stretches out. I keep pulling and end up with a meter long string of gum that just won't let go of my tooth.
At this point some sort of embarassment typicaly sets in as I try to hide my predicament from whoever is near me.
I try and pull the gum tight and break it, but can't. I pull out scissors and try unsuccessfuly to cut it. I then figure I'm just not pulling it tight enough to be able to cut it.
Now I'm using both hands and realy pulling on it, and it finaly gives a bit. But then, unexpectedly, the gum branches in a Y-shape with both branches now firmly attached in my mouth. But that Y gives me some leverage, and I can realy pull on it now.
So I do, and just then I realize that I'm actualy yanking on one of the veins in my face.. as it starts to rip accross the skin of my face like pulling wire through drywayll.


I've had that scene play out maybe once every 2 or 3 years in my dreams.

All my dreams are lucid. When this scene plays out there is 2 modes of awareness that I am experiencing. There is the me who is the subject of the dream and is experiencing puzzlement over the predicament without any anticipation of the impending horrific outcome. Yet there is also the me who is watching me experience the dream, and is fully aware that I'm heading for some vein pulling.

I always have these 2 modes of experiencing a dream.

Last night I dreamt that I was at a news conference being held by Macmood Amerjadin (sp?) the leader of Iran. He was explaining why there were 10s of 1000s of Iranian citizens lined up along the border with Iraq. He was saying that they were just peacefull immigrants looking to start a new life in Iraq. I then pointed out that if that were the case, they would be looking to immigrate legaly, as is done in many countries around the world. The me experiencing the dream found the situation surrounding this news conference to be totaly normal.
However, the me who was observing the dream found it totaly bizzare that this news conference was being held, not with people sitting in chairs, but rather everyone was lying in their own bed! The whole news conference consisted of people lying flat on their sides in a bed, while Macmood also was in a bed up front answering the question.

Me, as observer of the dream, found this realy odd and I kept looking around expecting others to find it odd as well.

But the me who was the subject of the dream never once gave the beds a second thought.

I always have this disjointed dual awareness in my dreams. The observer side of me has a fair amount of control over the dream as well. I can bring it to an end by waking myself up.. by saying something out loud (real life speech to be heard by someone in my room). I can stop the dream and rewind to an earlier point to see if it will progress in a more favorable manor. But I cannot in any way direct what will hapen next. I cannot even direct the actions of the 'self who is the subject of the dream.

Weird huh? I find it fun. Dreams are a form of recreation to me.

 

[Corpse Cruncher]

I have a recuring dream that somewhat relates to teeth.

I find myself chewing some gum, and I decide to throw it away. I grab the gum and pull it out of my mouth, but the gum is stuck to one of my teeth. I pull on the gum and it stretches out. I keep pulling and end up with a meter long string of gum that just won't let go of my tooth.
At this point some sort of embarassment typicaly sets in as I try to hide my predicament from whoever is near me.
I try and pull the gum tight and break it, but can't. I pull out scissors and try unsuccessfuly to cut it. I then figure I'm just not pulling it tight enough to be able to cut it.
Now I'm using both hands and realy pulling on it, and it finaly gives a bit. But then, unexpectedly, the gum branches in a Y-shape with both branches now firmly attached in my mouth. But that Y gives me some leverage, and I can realy pull on it now.
So I do, and just then I realize that I'm actualy yanking on one of the veins in my face.. as it starts to rip accross the skin of my face like pulling wire through drywayll.

I think somebody needs a hug don't they.

Pulling
To dream that you are pulling something, indicates your struggles with getting things accomplished. It may represent your responsibilities, relationships, or situations which you should unload and/or let go. Consider what or who you are pulling.Vein To see your veins in a dream, insures you against slander, if they are normal. To see them bleeding, denotes that you will have a great sorrow from which there will be no escape. To see them swollen, you will rise hastily to distinction and places of trust. Pulling out of teeth mean sickness or death or famine. ​

http://www.paranormality.com/dream_dictionary_t.shtml​

 

[pvt1863]

I have gone from thinking its pure baloney to maybe there is something in this. Just got to cut through the kerfuffle first to find the truth if any. I'm going to sit on the fence with this one.

Can it be answered why our minds code something. How many times have you gone to do something and can't or have a mental block? How many times has the answer staring you in the face, yet you didn't see it? Maybe, I just think this fits the cause here, it takes something else to break stalemate created. A coded dream or odd thought might just be the key. Perhaps our minds are overloaded or consumed with one particular thing that it can't cope with it and again the way around the processing of it is to try a different avenue. We would go another route if a street was blocked by traffic would we not. Why not out minds.

I've heard that and, while I see the logic behind it, I don't think I agree with it. I've never known a person who didn't ever dream about sex in a very obvious manner. That raises the question of why our minds would sometimes be obvious and sometimes use code.

If our minds sometimes achieve a temporary state where they are overloaded and/or can't deal with the issue, then that raises more questions. Why would an overloaded or blocked mind bring up the issue? Why would the mind need to sneak it in or trick itself into thinking about it? And does this sneaky way of getting around a block mean there must be conflicting parts of our mind that fight over what we dream about? Is there a gatekeeper that the libido has to circumvent?

It all seems unnecessarily complicated to me. My take is that your mind is simply shuffling memories around (kind of like defragging a hard drive) and the semi-conscious part of your mind picks up random bits and patches them into a dream, filling in the gaps with new thoughts where necessary. If you are shuffling a thought about sex, your mind can pick it up and dream about sex. If you are storing the memory of a conversation you had that day, your mind can pick it up and the same person can have a similar conversation with you in your dream (this actually happened to me two nights ago).

Well you won't; because your happy. Damn you get miserable.

Thanks, I'll get right on that

 

[Eos of the Eons]

So you don't want to know about my dreams of entrails then?

Does cannibalism bother you, or is it the dreaming of it?

I really don't want to dream about actually eating somebody, ech.


I ALWAYS get the dreams where I need to run fast, but it's like I'm running in molasses. I know I get the sensation because I'm actually sleeping, and really not moving. It's maddening in the dream though.

I die in my dreams all the time too. Getting shot fraccin hurts. I usually die by drowning though, in waterfalls. It's wild, and freaky.

The best dreams I personally have are ones about flying around (just me-no airplane needed), and the ones where I can breathe under water (and don't die that time).

I dreamt I accidently ran over a kid (and killed him) in the parking lot after a baseball game. I had a guilty feeling that weighed on me for a week! It was SOOO horrible.


I NEVER get to dream really fun stuff, like about s3x. Ever. It's annoying. Everybodye else gets to, but not me. WTF? It's NOT fair!

 

[Crazycowbob]

I NEVER get to dream really fun stuff, like about s3x. Ever. It's annoying. Everybodye else gets to, but not me. WTF? It's NOT fair!

I think it's obvious that you aren't thinking about sex nearly enough. I think you need to rent a lot of videos, get some more toys, and a video camera, and a pay site...

I'm sure you'll get one of those dreams soon enough

 

[Dark Jaguar]

I really don't want to dream about actually eating somebody, ech.

Yeah, neither do I. Fortunatly, I don't. Though since I'm about to go to sleep and this is the last thing on my mind (maybe) I just might. Though, if I do, I expect I'll forget it completely by the morning. I tend not to remember any of my dreams. It's a rarity when I do.

I ALWAYS get the dreams where I need to run fast, but it's like I'm running in molasses. I know I get the sensation because I'm actually sleeping, and really not moving. It's maddening in the dream though.

I've had a few of those over my life. I occasionally get dreams where I struggle to move or get something but I just can't. Last time I had one of those (one of the few I actually remember) a few months ago (in fact I think it was last year) I managed to grab whatever it was I needed to grab and that's the last thing I remember. I think that's the only one of those dreams where I actually succeeded in the end. Oh well.

I die in my dreams all the time too. Getting shot fraccin hurts. I usually die by drowning though, in waterfalls. It's wild, and freaky.

Never felt pain in my dreams. Felt pain waking up back when I used to toss and turn in my sleep as a kid... on a bunk bed... without guard rails... yeah that was a fun 2:00 AM for me and my dad. Nothing major. (Story of my life. I'm BORING. Well better than being an interesting short story on CSI I guess.) Just hurt. Don't recall dying either, though I have had some falling dreams where I fall "into" my body in my bed.

The best dreams I personally have are ones about flying around (just me-no airplane needed), and the ones where I can breathe under water (and don't die that time).

I had one dream where I flew instead of fell. In the dream I actually figured out how to fly on my own (I think it involved "spirit energy" instead of pixie dust, but you know, same difference) and started up a school to teach people (people do this in real life too, except they only seem to get as far as bouncing around on their knees with their legs crossed, fancy that). I'm surprised my mind had the presence of itself to give an "equal and opposite reaction" and blow dust and grass and stuff beneath me when I flew. It was actually a cool effect.

I dreamt I accidently ran over a kid (and killed him) in the parking lot after a baseball game. I had a guilty feeling that weighed on me for a week! It was SOOO horrible.

Wow, that's disturbing. I'd hate for a dream to affect me so much like that in the waking world. Don't worry, you can always bring the kid back to life in a later dream .

I NEVER get to dream really fun stuff, like about s3x. Ever. It's annoying. Everybodye else gets to, but not me. WTF? It's NOT fair!

I don't, but then again I don't really mind.

 

[Irish Murdoch]

is there any point in trying to interpret dreams?

I wouldn't have thought so, since even if dreams do have meaning, there seems to be no way at all to know when you have the interpretation correct. How would you check? And if there's no way to check, the whole process appears futile.

 

[Dark Jaguar]

Plus, even if you have the interpretation correct, your subconcious could be dead wrong.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Last night I dreamt that I had a loose tooth, much like those I had when I was a child. Throughout the dream, while the major plotline unfolded, it got more and more loose. Eventually, I was able to pull it out. The sensations were so vivid that when i awoke, I quickly ran my tongue over my molars to see if there was a tender gap where a tooth ought to be.

This happens in my dreams quite often.

I took Introduction to Psychology in college and I remember learning about Freudian interpretations of dreams. Before that, I used to look in books about dream interpretation (mostly from new-age bookstores, my favorite childhood hangouts) for explanations. Never once did I read a believable interpretation or corresponding dream image to the one I described in the above paragraph. It was always supposed to mean, "Fear of loss of physical beauty," or something stupid like that. For me, the tooth loosening is almost never a source of anxiety in my dream, but one of annoyance, discomfort and frustration. When it is finally yanked out, I'm usually relieved. In high school, a friend suggested that the loose tooth dream meant that I felt the need for change and new growth. This is the only interpretation that ever rang true for me.

I don't think there's any real "deep meaning" to my dreams anymore and I'm pretty sold on the idea that Freud was wrong about almost everything, but I still search for meaning in these little mental movies.
My question is this: If dreams are just reactions to various stimuli that we experience in our sleep, or some sort of phenomenon of the brain making sense of random neurons firing (or whatever the current explanation of dreams is), is there any point in trying to interpret dreams? Have there been any good studies done on recurring dreams, and possible causes for their recurrence?

-Noble Caboose

If you deny a spiritual world, then Yes you will deny that your dreams mean anything even vivid repeating ones that are definitely spiritual....And so you will resort to misfiring neurons as your solution and random chance and luck etc. etc.

The choice is yours.... or you can find out what the dream really meant.... and act accordingly.

For dreams with interpretations

SEE http://www.geocities.com/goddess_trixie2000/DreamsandVisions.html

I could post about such things, but my posts would be deemed spiritual and moved to the religion board whereas yours which show misfiring neurons are deemed sceintific and valid, even though they will produce no sane results from misfirings.

 

[wwitzke]

Does anybody know of any actual peer-reviewed scientific research that has focused on dream interpretation? Something like a study that attempts to show that patterns in dreaming can be correlated to current life events by studying populations of people that are undergoing similar life events and taking detailed accounts of their dreams.

 

[EHLO]

I wouldn't have thought so, since even if dreams do have meaning, there seems to be no way at all to know when you have the interpretation correct. How would you check? And if there's no way to check, the whole process appears futile.

I agree to a point but I think it's very much a case of some dreams (or the bits you remember at least) mean something some of the time. Even then they are purely individual experiences so generalised symbolism is nonsense.

Dream analysis just takes the fun out of the experience, and doesn't seem to offer any more than a bit of quiet introspection.

 

[Corpse Cruncher]

I really don't want to dream about actually eating somebody, ech.

Forgive me EOS, but aren't you the one that ate placenta? I maybe confusing you with another here. If it is you, why the issues with cannablism? Is it eating an unknown or even known person, or the act itself?

I ALWAYS get the dreams where I need to run fast, but it's like I'm running in molasses. I know I get the sensation because I'm actually sleeping, and really not moving. It's maddening in the dream though.

I die in my dreams all the time too. Getting shot fraccin hurts. I usually die by drowning though, in waterfalls. It's wild, and freaky.

The best dreams I personally have are ones about flying around (just me-no airplane needed), and the ones where I can breathe under water (and don't die that time).

I dreamt I accidently ran over a kid (and killed him) in the parking lot after a baseball game. I had a guilty feeling that weighed on me for a week! It was SOOO horrible.


I NEVER get to dream really fun stuff, like about s3x. Ever. It's annoying. Everybodye else gets to, but not me. WTF? It's NOT fair!

Death etc
To dream that you die in your dream, symbolizes inner changes, transformation, self-discovery and positive development that is happening within you or in your life. Although such a dreams may bring about feelings of fear and anxiety, it is no cause for alarm and is often considered a positive symbol. Dreams of experiencing your own death usually means that big changes are ahead for you. You are moving on to new beginnings and leaving the past behind. These changes does not necessarily imply a negative turn of events. Metaphorically, dying can be seen as an end or a termination to your old ways and habits. So, dying does not always mean a physical death, but an ending of something.

On a negative note, to dream that you die may represent involvement in deeply painful relationships or unhealthy, destructive behaviors. You may feeling depressed or feel strangled by a situation or person in your waking life. Perhaps your mind is preoccupied with someone who is terminally ill or dying. Alternatively, you may be trying to get out of some obligation, responsibility or other situation.

To see someone dying in your dream, signifies that your feelings for that person are dead or that a significant change/loss is occurring in your relationship with that person. Alternatively, you may want to repress that aspect of yourself that is represented by the dying person​

http://www.dreammoods.com/dreamdictionary/d.htm#Die​

Any of that ring true Eos with you currently?​

 

[Corpse Cruncher]

Plus, even if you have the interpretation correct, your subconscious could be dead wrong.

True, both you and Irish raised a good point in all things considered here. Do we take the interpretation as gospel or make a note of it and see what comes about?


Be an interesting experiment to pull off, but how. As surely you'd have to restrict the stimuli of the victim? Then analyse their dream, if they had one. Solve the issue if there was one. See if it repeats or what occurs next. Long job involved and lots of hard work. Probably best suited to those who have recurring dreams.

Being interesting though.

As with my recurring, cannibalism, it would be interested to find out if it resolves once I have my operation to remove then issue at root cause, or if that root cause still remains after I recover.

 

[Crazycowbob]

True, both you and Irish raised a good point in all things considered here. Do we take the interpretation as gospel or make a note of it and see what comes about?


Be an interesting experiment to pull off, but how. As surely you'd have to restrict the stimuli of the victim? Then analyse their dream, if they had one. Solve the issue if there was one. See if it repeats or what occurs next. Long job involved and lots of hard work. Probably best suited to those who have recurring dreams.

Being interesting though.

As with my recurring, cannibalism, it would be interested to find out if it resolves once I have my operation to remove then issue at root cause, or if that root cause still remains after I recover.

Keep us informed! While a one person study doesn't make for a very complete and scientific conclusion, it would definately be a good starting place.

 

[Corpse Cruncher]

Keep us informed! While a one person study doesn't make for a very complete and scientific conclusion, it would definitely be a good starting place.

Holy smoke! And if you think I'm telling you all my dreams in the name of science and experimentation. Well OK if you insist.


Might be interesting to do, if only for my own purpose. Although I would have thought, logically, that anytime I have a energy shortfall, my recurring dream should appear. Purely basing dreaming about cannibalism is a body reminder that I need recharging.


Anybody else interested, remotely even, to see if their dream/life alter?

 

[Dark Jaguar]

Well I doubt there's anything relevant in dreams anyway, but I can't do any experiments. As I said, I remember dreams once in a blue moon. Sleeping for me is basically the part of my day where I stop existing for several hours. As I said earlier, I usually go for several months on end between dreams, as far as my memory is concerned.

 

[Crazycowbob]

Holy smoke! And if you think I'm telling you all my dreams in the name of science and experimentation. Well OK if you insist.


Might be interesting to do, if only for my own purpose. Although I would have thought, logically, that anytime I have a energy shortfall, my recurring dream should appear. Purely basing dreaming about cannibalism is a body reminder that I need recharging.


Anybody else interested, remotely even, to see if their dream/life alter?

I'm game Would be an interesting thing to chart, I used to keep a log (mostly for art/story ideas, dreams are good for that!), wouldn't be a problem to start again.