Drag Shows!!

[Brainster]

Ima just leave this here.

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I love that there are people out there so gullible that they think J Edgar Hoover was a tranny, but sorry to see it at a skeptic site.

 

[The Atheist]

My kids have been around gay people and Pride parades all their lives, but I bet drag shows will durn them super trans gay!

I know, right?

My daughter, who's now 23, was around all kinds of queer alphabet people during her childhood - drags, trans, gays and lezzers, you name it, she met them.

And she turned out STRAIGHT! she got ******* engaged to a bloke earlier this year.

Even worse, her 20 year old brother isn't just straight, he respects women and doesn't screw them in their dozens like his dad used to.

I screwed up, I know.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

I love that there are people out there so gullible that they think J Edgar Hoover was a tranny, but sorry to see it at a skeptic site.

I was not aware there was any doubt. Drag vs trans however, who knows.

 

[The Don]

I know, right?

My daughter, who's now 23, was around all kinds of queer alphabet people during her childhood - drags, trans, gays and lezzers, you name it, she met them.

And she turned out STRAIGHT! she got ******* engaged to a bloke earlier this year.

Even worse, her 20 year old brother isn't just straight, he respects women and doesn't screw them in their dozens like his dad used to.

I screwed up, I know.

Adding another data point anecdote

John Cleese dragged up all through the Monty Python years and he's turned out to be a skirt-chasing right-wing reactionary ********

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

In what should be a surprise to no one, Texas (and a couple of other states) have proposed legislation that would heavily regulate drag, and could be read to ban trans gender people in public for doing 'drag'.

Which of course would be how it is used in Texas, where parents of trans kids get investigated for child abuse for doing the opposite of child abuse.

Does that mean Some Like it Hot is banned in Texas?

 

[Norman Alexander]

I love that there are people out there so gullible that they think J Edgar Hoover was a tranny, but sorry to see it at a skeptic site.

I don't think there's much doubt that J Edgar liked to cross-dress, i.e. drag up. Also that he was almost certainly homosexual, and others knew it and exploited it. But was he a tranny? Don't know, and frankly, don't care.

 

[Darat]

Please lets try to keep discussion about trans matters in the thread where it has been discussed for sometime, http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=361690 if you wish to make a point about trans people, research on trans matters and so that is the thread in which to do it. The subject of this thread is what is in the opening post.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Darat

 

[Parsman]

It's Panto season here in the UK and young children will be dragged along to shows by their parents. In every show a man will get dressed up as a woman (a Panto dame). In my lifetime the principal boy used to be played by a woman in tights. Funnily enough none of this turned most of us "queer". It is almost as if it is something in the nature of a person and not conditioning that may make people be gay, trans, straight or whatever they become.

 

[Darat]

Is drag even all gay men? I thought a few were straight but just wanted to look fabulous.

Hasn't always been so doubt it is these days.

Certainly in the UK "drag" has always been part of the comedy of general and yes family entertainment.

There are many well know and as far as I know straight male comedians who have "dragged up" to perform a female comedy character. Probably the best known current comedian over here would be Steve Coogan, well known for his Pauline Calf character (as well as "her" brother Paul Calf) amongst other characters such as Alan Partridge.

 

[Upchurch]

Tangentially related, but for all the talk of “parental choice”, they seem determined to remove choices from parents who don’t suffer from retro gay panic.

 

[Upchurch]

Because not wanting your young children exposed to cross-dressing freaks means that someone is "sexually-repressed".

No, but calling them freaks might.

 

[Lothian]

Hasn't always been so doubt it is these days.

Certainly in the UK "drag" has always been part of the comedy of general and yes family entertainment.

There are many well know and as far as I know straight male comedians who have "dragged up" to perform a female comedy character. Probably the best known current comedian over here would be Steve Coogan, well known for his Pauline Calf character (as well as "her" brother Paul Calf) amongst other characters such as Alan Partridge.

Ho ho very funny, I see what you did there. Steve Coogan!!! very good!! Mention someone who ages ago had a female character rather rather than the universally loved and by far the funniest drag star, by far the funniest comedy star the UK, Brendan O'Carroll who plays the hilarious Mrs Brown.

 

[Darat]

Ho ho very funny, I see what you did there. Steve Coogan!!! very good!! Mention someone who ages ago had a female character rather rather than the universally loved and by far the funniest drag star, by far the funniest comedy star the UK, Brendan O'Carroll who plays the hilarious Mrs Brown.

Do you know it didn't occur to me to use him as an example? I was thinking who is a current straight male comedian....


(Actually I'm not one of those comedy snobs - I loved the first couple of series.)

 

[Warp12]

No, but calling them freaks might.

I would strongly disagree with that assessment. Refusing to endorse every fetish that comes along does not make someone "sexually repressed". Especially when it comes to what young children are exposed to.

It just makes you wonder what kind of man gets up in the morning and decides, "I'm going to dress like a woman, to flamboyant excess, and hopefully find some young kids to hang out with". Libs will often say, "the kids are too young to understand it". Well, if so, why are these weirdos doing it? For what benefit?

We all know to what "benefit". To normalize such abnormal behaviors at a very early age. I mean, that is the best case scenario, I suppose.

But aside from that, what is worse, is that some feel they are doing something heroic by silencing the voices of concerned parents, by doing things like spamming the website in the OP. Drag Queens might be fine for you and your young kids, but don't attempt to take away the voice of disagreeing parents, and then celebrate doing so.

 

[Darat]

Oh well.

It just makes you wonder what kind of man gets up in the morning and decides, "I'm going to dress like a woman, to flamboyant excess, and hopefully find some young kids to hang out with".

...snip....

Imaginary ones.

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

Do you know it didn't occur to me to use him as an example? I was thinking who is a current straight male comedian....


(Actually I'm not one of those comedy snobs - I loved the first couple of series.)

You're safe there, O'Carroll's not a comedian.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

I would strongly disagree with that assessment. Refusing to endorse every fetish that comes along does not make someone "sexually repressed". Especially when it comes to what young children are exposed to.

It just makes you wonder what kind of man gets up in the morning and decides, "I'm going to dress like a woman, to flamboyant excess, and hopefully find some young kids to hang out with". Libs will often say, "the kids are too young to understand it". Well, if so, why are these weirdos doing it? For what benefit?

We all know to what "benefit". To normalize such abnormal behaviors at a very early age. I mean, that is the best case scenario, I suppose.

But aside from that, what is worse, is that some feel they are doing something heroic by silencing the voices of concerned parents, by doing things like spamming the website in the OP. Drag Queens might be fine for you and your young kids, but don't attempt to take away the voice of disagreeing parents, and then celebrate doing so.

you are projecting - big time.

 

[kookbreaker]

It’s fun to see our resident righties try and fire their little homophobic cannons and fail so badly.

 

[BobTheCoward]

It just makes you wonder what kind of man gets up in the morning and decides, "I'm going to dress like a woman, to flamboyant excess, and hopefully find some young kids to hang out with"

The definition of flamboyant

(of a person or their behavior) tending to attract attention because of their exuberance, confidence, and stylishness.

To answer your questions...cool ones

 

[BobTheCoward]

But aside from that, what is worse, is that some feel they are doing something heroic by silencing the voices of concerned parents, by doing things like spamming the website in the OP. Drag Queens might be fine for you and your young kids, but don't attempt to take away the voice of disagreeing parents, and then celebrate doing so.

I don't care if they don't take their kid. They are trying to prevent me from taking my kid. They are the ones who are trying to stop the other parent.