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Dr Schwartz, "The Afterlife Experiments"

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Anyone read this book yet?

I decided to see what the opposition were up to, and this seems to be an example of some of the "best" available evidence for an afterlife. I'd already heard a LOT of bad things about this book, the experiments, and Dr Schwartz himself, but I figured maybe, just MAYBE some mean old skeptics were giving him an extra hard time because they felt he was some kind of threat...or something.

Boy was I wrong!

I wouldn't trust this guy to prove the existence of his own arse scientifically.

He shows the very worst characteristics for reliable testing:

1) Gullibility
2) Bias
3) Little knowledge of tried and tested experimentation methods
4) Nice, trusting personality
5) A very dodgy beard

I'll let number 5 go, but the other 4 are unforgivable for a man in his position, doing such potentially important and life-changing investigation.

Some of his biggest gaffes are as follows:

1) He clearly decided early on that he believed in the after-life, yet refused to admit it. He would clearly act as though he was a believer, and I think this caused him to be an easy target for fraudsters.
2) Taking clear failures and somehow twisting them into successes at a later date. This guy could find a connection between 9/11 and his Grandma if he put his mind to it. Truly a genius at tenuous linking.
3) He watched the success rate of his mediums crash from 90-100% to something very close to chance as he tightened controls, yet somehow managed to find every set of results unbelievable. When he FINALLY conducted what seemed to be a tight, double-blind experiment, the results showed no evidence of survival of consciousness, yet he still found them "breathtaking" confirmation. His deceitfullness really shone through here too, because he KNEW these experiments were evidence against his claims, yet decided to give them just a couple of paragraphs mention in his book, and never gave away the fact that the test was a resounding failure.

The funniest part of the whole book came after he decided himself and Linda (his wife) were going to live their whole life as if survival of consciousness was a reality, though, reasoning that if they were wrong, they'd never know about it, but if they were right, they'd have knowledge in the afterlife that they lived their life in the right way.

Gee, who has heard a certain philosopher reasoning that way before?

Not Scwhartz, it appears! Seemingly ignorant of Pascal, when told about Blaise's Wager, Dr. Schwartz stated "Well, if it's good enough for Pascal, it's good enough for me!".

Priceless idiocy! You just can't buy stupid like that.
 
I'm quite proud of myself.

I made it 3/4 of the way through David Icke's "Love is the only Truth, Everything Else is Illusion", stopping only because he decided to show everyone his penis in the chapter labelled "I am Me, I am Free", I kid you not (no one wants to see that, do they), and I made it almost all the way through The Afterlife Experiments, stopping only because he stopped talking about the experiments themselves and started wittering on about how our lives would change if it were proved real beyond doubt, and how maybe in the future ALL afterlife experiments should be double-blind.

Who'd have thunk it?! Or, as he told Randi, such an idea is "Ingenius".

Edit: Actually, I think he told Randi he wanted to make his experiments "triple-blind". What's next "quadruple-blind"?

Does he even know what any of these words mean?
 
Edit: Actually, I think he told Randi he wanted to make his experiments "triple-blind". What's next "quadruple-blind"?

Does he even know what any of these words mean?

He already made all his experiments triple-blind. That's where the experimenter is blind to the results.
 
I'm quite proud of myself.

I made it 3/4 of the way through David Icke's "Love is the only Truth, Everything Else is Illusion", stopping only because he decided to show everyone his penis in the chapter labelled "I am Me, I am Free", I kid you not (no one wants to see that, do they)?

No, actually.
No one does want to see that.

So STOP opening up to that page to show me his penis at every oppurtunity, please!!!!
 
I bought and read The Afterlife Experiments a few years ago as the result of a debate on another forum (TVTalkshows, I think). I did a fairly extensive review at that time, but the OP's general comments are right.

Others on this forum have done even more extensive reviews which are probably more accessible. I think Ersby did one, though I may be misremembering.

TAE is scientific garbage from cover to cover, but most on JREF know that already. If only the believers would see it.
 
Yep, Garrette, it was the TVTalkshows board. Ah, happy times.

I remember Schwartz's tortured statistics on the "White Crow" readings. They calculated the probablitity of guessing a name right by deciding that they knew fifteen common names, so the odds must have been one in fifteen.
 
No, actually.
No one does want to see that.

So STOP opening up to that page to show me his penis at every oppurtunity, please!!!!

I'd seriously consider posting it here, but a) I'm not sure it'd be ALLOWED, and b) I'd end up dragging this whole thread into a discussion of David Icke's manhood (or lack of).

Although that'd be entertaining, we don't want Icke getting more of a kick out of it than he already has!

Garrette said:
I bought and read The Afterlife Experiments a few years ago as the result of a debate on another forum (TVTalkshows, I think). I did a fairly extensive review at that time, but the OP's general comments are right.

Others on this forum have done even more extensive reviews which are probably more accessible. I think Ersby did one, though I may be misremembering.

TAE is scientific garbage from cover to cover, but most on JREF know that already. If only the believers would see it.

Ray Hyman gave a particularly stinging critique too, and a VERY good one, in Skeptical Inquirer I think. You can find it on CSICOP's site.

I searched and found it when I was about half-way through the book, because I could see fallacies, stupidity, and dreadful experimentation all over the place, and wanted to see what kind of response an expert in these kind of things could give.

He basically ripped his experiments to shreds and showed that rather than compelling evidence for survival, they were acually completely and utterly wortheless, and potentially good evidence AGAINST mediumship, seeing as the only reliable experiment produced chance results.

Worse than all the above are the LIES though. Shwartz actually lies in many places, and Hyman shows this.
 
Yep, Garrette, it was the TVTalkshows board. Ah, happy times.

I remember Schwartz's tortured statistics on the "White Crow" readings. They calculated the probablitity of guessing a name right by deciding that they knew fifteen common names, so the odds must have been one in fifteen.

Some of his probabilities had me in stitches. I don't even know enough about probability to know exactly what he was doing wrong with his calculations, but when a guy cites odds of billions and even trillions to one against for a string of seemingly unimpressive hits, you know something's up!
 

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