Dr. Colin Ross exposed

[Roma]

I think in cases like this, the willingness of the credulous patient is forgotten.
These patients need on-going treatment from a qualified professonal. I hope this is the case here. No offense.
Good luck in bringing this charlatan to justice.

No offence taken what-so-ever,

in fact about 2 years after Ross left I thought that I should really see some one about the trauma Ross' therapy caused me.
Luckily there was a psychologist office just a couple of blocks away from where I lived so I called the doctor, Dr.Eric Ellis, and just by pure coincidence he was the psychologist who had taken over all of Colin Ross' MPD patients when Ross left for Dallas.
He was familiar with False Memory Syndrome too and he even had some FMS Foundation newsletters in his office.
"So", I asked him, "do you do therapy for people suffering from false memory syndrome?"
Yes indeed he did.
"So", I asked him, "do you do therapy for people suffering from multiple personality disorder and recovered memories too?"
Yes indeed he did.
"So", I asked: "how can you do both FMS therapy and MPD therapy since they are opposed to each other. Do you think that those patients of Ross' really have MPD?"
"No, not at all", he answered "none of Colin Ross' patients have MPD, they all have false memory syndrome".
"But", I queried "if they all have FMS then why are you treating them for MPD?"
"Because", he explained "they like their diagnosis and have formed friendships in their MPD support group".



I didn't go to that guy for any therapy and I didn't get help for any of the trauma that I suffered from the torture inflicted upon me by Ross and the staff at the St.Boniface Hospital. I am sure that I probably do suffer from PTSD but I don't think that I can ever go to a therapist to get help because I don't trust them anymore, and as long as I stay away from them and the St.Boniface Hospital I am fine. I don't take any offence to anyone saying that I should seek help, of course anyone like me should.

 

[Bunked like punked]

I was a patient at his Dissociative Disorders unit at Charter, then at the trauma unit in Timberlawn. I understand you Roma. I was also overmedicated then neglected (by another shrink working on his unit). And I will not seek therapy anymore either...although I know I need real help. I was gullible and vulnerable and now I am just screwed. Do you remember him talking about "double bind" situations? Seems to me this whole eye beem thing sets him up to "win" either way it goes.

 

[INRM]

Roma,

If a psychiatric patient dies from a drug overdose or suicide it's labled natural causes? Does this apply in the United States too? If so, doesn't that make it very easy for a doctor to bump off a patient they didn't like without scrutiny?

 

[INRM]

Roma,

If a psychiatric patient dies from a drug overdose or suicide it's labled natural causes? Does this apply in the United States too? If so, doesn't that make it very easy for a psychiatrist to bump off a mental-patient they didn't like without scrutiny?

 

[Meed]

I think in cases like this, the willingness of the credulous patient is forgotten.

What do you mean? Why do you think it's forgotten? People in general would do well to be more skeptical of psychiatrists and do their own research, especially when they're prescribing meds. But that doesn't make the malpractice any more excusable.

 

[Roma]

I think in cases like this, the willingness of the credulous patient is forgotten.

I understand why people would want patients to take responsibility for the medical treatment that they willingly participate in.
That makes perfect sense for patients who are not suffering from any psychiatric or mental problem.

I was not suffering from any psychiatric or mental disorder at the time that I went to see Dr.Colin Ross to get my form filled out for an extension to my unemployment insurance. I went willingly.

However Dr.Colin Ross is a very charasmatic and manipulative mind control expert. As an over-stressed single mother who was struggling to go to university full time and work at a part time minimum wage job I was an easy target.
I questioned him about everything he said and he kept telling me that he was the only expert on MPD in Canada and he knew more than anyone else.

He also used my Christian beliefs to his advantage, calling himself a Christian psychiatrist and his nurses would tell me that God had sent me to him.

I was raised to respect doctors and I knew nothing about mind control or what constituted proper and ethical standards of psychiatric care.

I was treated at a respectable teaching hospital and trusted that the staff hired at that hospital were qualified. That is what my "willingness" was founded on.

I don't know what would be a foundation of "credulous" for me though since I was under the influence of a lot of drugs and hypnosis.

 

[Roma]

Roma,

If a psychiatric patient dies from a drug overdose or suicide it's labled natural causes? Does this apply in the United States too? If so, doesn't that make it very easy for a psychiatrist to bump off a mental-patient they didn't like without scrutiny?

Yes.

 

[Roma]

I was a patient at his Dissociative Disorders unit at Charter, then at the trauma unit in Timberlawn. I understand you Roma. I was also overmedicated then neglected (by another shrink working on his unit). And I will not seek therapy anymore either...although I know I need real help. I was gullible and vulnerable and now I am just screwed. Do you remember him talking about "double bind" situations? Seems to me this whole eye beem thing sets him up to "win" either way it goes.

Not so screwed,
you got out of there so things can only get better for you now.

I'm glad you joined the JREF forum site, there are so many really smart people who can answer a lot of your questions.
"double bind" can mean a couple of things so I'd have to know the context,
and I wouldn't believe anything any one trained by Ross told you.

The "eye beam" thing is going to backfire on him big time here.

Please send me a private message any time at all if you want.
Just click on my name.

 

[INRM]

Roma,

Yes to "Does this apply in the United States too?" or "If so, doesn't that make it very easy for a psychiatrist to bump off a mental-patient they didn't like without scrutiny?" or both?

Because we've had problems in the healthcare industry with nurses and doctors, sometimes nicknamed "angels of death", who are basically serial killers who kill patients in their care. One example would be Charles Cullen.

 

[Roma]

Roma,

Yes to "Does this apply in the United States too?" or "If so, doesn't that make it very easy for a psychiatrist to bump off a mental-patient they didn't like without scrutiny?" or both?

Psychiatric patients are easy prey for every type of crime,
this is universal.
The police don't want to investigate crimes against psychiatric patients because prosecutors won't press charges in a case that probably won't succeed in court.

 

[Bunked like punked]

as requested....my post about what I meant by double bind in this situation.

Originally Posted by Bunked like punked
What I meant by a double bind situation for this experiment of his is that he if he won the challenge then he can use it to write more papers, gain more notariry, etc. If he loses the challenge that would set him up to say it is scientific and he can use this expirment to further his name in science circles, write more papers and books, etc. One thing though, with ultimatiums like double binds....others can choose any number of different conclusions. Others can see options that his narrow mindedness wont let him see. The choices don't have to follow his script. That is what I understand of this if I followed what has been said correctly.

Sorry for all the mispellings...in a hurry, just wanted to say this before I go to work.

 

[INRM]

Roma,

I suppose you're right, but it's very dangerous to have healthcare workers who can murder their patients at will without any accountability.

 

[Roma]

I'm posting these documents as a favour for my friend George Bergen because
Dr.Colin Ross has been insisting that he never worked at the University of Manitoba,
the place where George's sister-in-law went for counselling then committed suicide
after being subjected to Dr.Colin Ross' recovered memory therapy techniques.

 

[Baby Nemesis]

I see you get a mention in Wikipedia, Roma, along with one or two other former patients, on the page about Colin Ross:

In January 1992, patient Martha Hurt was admitted to Charter Hospital of Dallas for counseling for depression, and began therapy with Ross, Dr. Stephen Ash and counselor Mary Ellen Grundman. During her stay at Charter, Hurt's condition worsened, and she claimed to have memories of satanic cult abuse, including memories of having children at the age of nine and killing the babies to drink their blood. Ash believed that Hurt had 12 separate alternate personalities, but under the care of Ross, that number grew to 200. In 1999, Martha Hurt filed suit against her therapists at Charter*— and was told that the hospital had lost her records.

Hurt's experience is consistent with, and - in many ways - identical to the claims of two other former patients of Ross's who sued him for malpractice. Martha Ann Tyo in Texas, and Roma Hart of Manitoba also sued Ross for implanted memories of Satanic Ritual Abuse and a distinct, nearly fatal, worsening of condition under his care.

Of course, being Wikipedia, it can't be said to be an unquestionably reliable source, but it does tie in with other things.

This is someone who has about 140 peer-reviewed papers in reputable-sounding journals, many of the papers on multiple personality disorder. I think questions ought to be raised as to how such a controversial diagnosis as MPD can seem reputable by being so widely peer-reviewed. I raised that question in my long post about the issue in the anti-psychiatry thread, where I quoted articles on the terrible harm recovered memory therapy can do and the controversial nature of the MPD/DID diagnosis. I also linked to an old article in the Independent where Roma was interviewed about her experiences. I also put a few quotes in my post by Colin Ross where he was straightforward about wanting to trick the JREF out of the million dollars. Here's the post.

 

[amb]

I wonder if Dr Barret from Quackwatch has got hold of it yet?

 

[INRM]

So if you want to be a healthcare worker who murders patients, just go into psychiatry and you can kill all you want. Great...

 

[Roma]

140 peer reviewed articles sounds impressive until you know who you're talking about. This guy is just one malignant narcissist with delusions of grandure who feels that every thought that pops into his feverish little brain is so important that it must be wrtitten down and given to the world. He forms "International Societies" and makes himself "president". Other nuts just like him join and they review each others rambling papers and present each other with "awards".

He goes into his wikipedia site often and edits out anything that disturbs his grand view of himself. Of course people like certain forum members and their friends don't let Ross get away with that and put all of his crimes right back on. On...Off...On...Off...On
I did find it amusing when I read the history part of his wikipedia site yesterday, it's still there so you can read it too, he explains the reason for one of his edits:
"I did not do RM therapy".
What the hell?! This guy practically invented RM (recovered memory) therapy.
This guy is crazy ya know. Gotta keep an eye on 'im.

 

[Baby Nemesis]

Still, I do wonder how he got his papers on multiple personality disorder into so many reputable-sounding journals. I list quite a few in my post in the anti-psychiatry thread where I ask how diagnoses that can lead to clients suffering a lot of harm like MPD can appear to be a respectable and tried-and-trusted part of psychiatry because papers about them can appear as peer-reviewed articles in reputable-seeming journals, and documented in reputable places like PubMed. Here's a long list of Ross's papers from his own website. He seems to have quite a number of interests.

 

[Roma]

I think they're taking him at his word,
I don't think they are paying enough attention to scientifically verifying anything he includes as his supporting data in any of his papers.
For example: He has written a paper on prostitutes and childhood trauma but the protitutes were all his MPD patients, non of whom were actually prostitutes. Well why waste all that time going out and exposing yourself to the grimier side of life when you can just make your own prostitutes from scratch iotragenically in a clean air conditioned office. It also controls the childhood trauma memory data collection part, they will recall whatever the hell you want them to in the quantity and type desired.
Life is sweet

 

[Roma]

Thanks for the reminder Baby Nemesis,
I can only speak of my own personal experiences as his former MPD patient
And of course the notes he made in my hospital records saying he was: "offended that I would call him a pimp because he was giving his in-patients passes so that men could have sex with them". Okay I'll go drag out those bloody crates again to find that page.
So many of my fellow MPD patients were suddenly prostitutes, all at the same time (handy eh?), that the downtown Klinic Crisis Centre referred to us as "Colin's Girls".
We were only middle class suburban women with no real street knowledge, fortunately none of us got badly hurt
I'll see if I can insert a picture of myself taken as his patient under a hypnotic state and heavily drugged while in obvious prostitute attire. I am going to do that in a private message just to you, I'll appreciate it if you don't post it anywhere, I know you wouldn't anyway. There were worse pictures taken that I wouldn't even send to anyone ever, except a lawyer I guess.