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Dowsing by edge - Part III

edge said:
Because I have sent in to the IIG to do the test, another skeptical group that is linked with the JREF.
Most of the recent questions apply to the protocol I sent to them if you read back you should be aware of the questions unless you are just trolling in here,[Snow].
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Way to go on answering a request for clarification, edge!

Hmm, and now I'm the troll. Ha!

I'm not laughing at you any longer, edge, now I'm mocking you. For the lurkers I give as evidence edge's history of posts in the JREF forums. Though I recommend you don't waste any of your time giving him the slightest bit of credit for "genuine application for the MDC".

Again, I give as evidence his previous posts here at JREF forums.
 
Snow said:
Edge, what does the following quote mean?

Originally Posted by edge
... The I.I.G. question that I sent to them ...


I look forward to your clarification.
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If you weren’t trolling you would know what questions I have asked the IIG.
They are in this post by Sezme.
You need to read the whole post before mouthing off.
To top it off the last question was re- written by Spektator, so you have no excuse that you didn’t understand what was written, so the lack of clarification is a lie also.

SezMe says,
Reno, I can testify that edge is addicted to nicotine...he is a heavy smoker. I have no other drug information.
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Like that's any of his business anyway.
Talk about deviating from the topic!

I'll be on the patch in a day or two.


GzuzKryzt said,
You conveniently ignore that the skeptical thinking by Spektator and SezMe plus a few others enabled you to refine your protocol.
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That's a lie; I have used Specktators written protocol.
This is why I post, you keep posting your delusional lies, you then leave me no choice but to respond, Spectators re-write of my original protocol was the only one that included most of what I needed to pass this test and I used it.
Even his was rejected, there seems to be no pleasing any of the challenges out there offered by the skeptics, I wonder why?


That one was sent to the IIG and if the jref waited one or two more days, that protocol was the one they would have got as the final protocol.

They would have found something wrong with that one too.
 
Still no word from the I.I.G., you would think that they would at least say no.

Since I have found the most accurate and precise way to do a test for dowsing everyone is backing off.


I will send one more e-mail to the I.I.G. Information center, and ask this,

It's a simple yes, or no, question Jim, can you answer the questions?


Here’s the questions,,
Hi Jim,
Regarding my suggested protocol for testing dowsing:
Do you agree with this procedure?

1. All containers will be placed on the same spot, a
spot of my own choosing, one after the other, and I
will dowse them one at a time.

2. A tripod over the spot will support a scale. I
will attach the scale to my dowsing rod. Neither the
scale nor the rod will actually touch the containers.

Please let me know if these two conditions are
acceptable.

I am just curious.
 
A fellow follower of this thread kicked me in the butt to check in with the IIG, which I just did by calling Jim, the head of the IIG. He will be out of touch until Dec. 10th. Thus, edge, unfortunately you'll just have to cool your red-hot dowsing rod for a couple of weeks. I've put a tickler on my calendar to follow up with Jim after he gets back. Unfortunately also is the fact that nobody is in place to take any action in Jim's absence.

So stand by ..........
 
Edge, another simple question for you:

What will you do if IIG does not accept your protocol? (The reasons for which are obvious and have been discussed thoroughly, namely the time issue.)



I think I have the answer already: You will never shut up.
You will come up with new evasions and modifications and excuses any time physical measurable reality interferes with your belief system; a system to which you have dedicated almost your entire adult life.
 
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edge will most likely assume that IIG is running scared, just like JREF is. They don't want to lose the money. We've been here before, more than once.
 
Reno said:
edge will most likely assume that IIG is running scared, just like JREF is. They don't want to lose the money. We've been here before, more than once.
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It's understandable that they would run scared. Wouldn't you? After you've seen the piles of gold edge has dowsed and the multi-million dollar contracts with mining companies he has negotiated?
 
GzuzKryzt said:
Edge, another simple question for you:

What will you do if IIG does not accept your protocol? (The reasons for which are obvious and have been discussed thoroughly, namely the time issue.)



I think I have the answer already: You will never shut up.
You will come up with new evasions and modifications and excuses any time physical measurable reality interferes with your belief system; a system to which you have dedicated almost your entire adult life.
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Wow! All I know about it, says it works, that’s all that I can tell by using it in the field even now.
proving something or disproving a theory all takes time to do right, if I was to fail Oh I'll be done with the "science" that may or may not be behind it, it will always be a tool though if I need it or not.

Well I have started to practice and see what I feel in the field, by sluicing the materials and pulling up the gold.
Ground that I can test on and let the dog run free.
Going today agian at 1:00 for about 3 or 4 hours.

Here's the response from the I.I.G...,

Hi Mike
I started to send you an email response a few minutes ago, but
something
went wrong with my email. If you are receiving two emails from me,
please
forgive me.
I am a member of the IIG Steering Committee, and I just wanted to let
you
know that Jim Underdown is out of town for a few weeks.
Your message is not being ignored. Hold tight; your claim is important
to
us, and Jim will contact you when he is back in his office.
Thanks for your interest in the IIG.
- Wendy Hughes
Independent Investigations Group

> Note: forwarded message attached.


Mining with a sluice is hard on my body, I'm getting old, plus it's colder now.
But time is not an issue with me as far as testing.
 
edge said:
Wow! All I know about it, says it works, that’s all that I can tell by using it in the field even now.
proving something or disproving a theory all takes time to do right, if I was to fail Oh I'll be done with the "science" that may or may not be behind it, it will always be a tool though if I need it or not.

Well I have started to practice and see what I feel in the field, by sluicing the materials and pulling up the gold.
Ground that I can test on and let the dog run free.
Going today agian at 1:00 for about 3 or 4 hours.

Here's the response from the I.I.G...,

Hi Mike
I started to send you an email response a few minutes ago, but
something
went wrong with my email. If you are receiving two emails from me,
please
forgive me.
I am a member of the IIG Steering Committee, and I just wanted to let
you
know that Jim Underdown is out of town for a few weeks.
Your message is not being ignored. Hold tight; your claim is important
to
us, and Jim will contact you when he is back in his office.
Thanks for your interest in the IIG.
- Wendy Hughes
Independent Investigations Group

> Note: forwarded message attached.


Mining with a sluice is hard on my body, I'm getting old, plus it's colder now.
But time is not an issue with me as far as testing.
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Thanks for endorsing my assumption.

I'll go for another:
After failing the next controlled test, you will make excuses like you did back in 2002, Mr. Sacagawea. Even if you agreed before the test that everything was tailored to your demands. Which you also did back in 2002, fish taler.

But most likely, you will not submit to a controlled test again.
 
But most likely, you will not submit to a controlled test again.
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If I get to use my protocol I will. I know what to do now.

The water is extremely cold; you have to submerge your hands more than once before you can take it.
The first time today I thought it was close to frostbite.
Three hours out there, it was good.

Ah the Silence, the creek, the dog and nature,+ gold. :)
 
edge said:
If I get to use my protocol I will. I know what to do now.

The water is extremely cold; you have to submerge your hands more than once before you can take it.
The first time today I thought it was close to frostbite.
Three hours out there, it was good.

Ah the Silence, the creek, the dog and nature,+ gold. :)
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Ah the Waffling, the fish tales, the failure and excuses,+ no million dollars. :)
 
Edge, in a previous thread, you claimed that when you were dowsing, you were at a spot where the pull was so strong that the rod bent 180 degrees. You realize that being able to demonstrate that under controlled conditions would be a winning claim, right?
 
Ravenwood said:
Edge, in a previous thread, you claimed that when you were dowsing, you were at a spot where the pull was so strong that the rod bent 180 degrees. You realize that being able to demonstrate that under controlled conditions would be a winning claim, right?
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He also said something along the lines of "the force nearly ripped the rod out of my hands".



When I'm soused, gravity rips stuff out of my hands, too: Bottles, drumsticks, cigarettes, food, silverware, you name it.
 
edge said:
The water is extremely cold; you have to submerge your hands more than once before you can take it.
The first time today I thought it was close to frostbite.
Three hours out there, it was good.

Ah the Silence, the creek, the dog and nature,+ gold. :)
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Apparently not enough gold for you to be able to afford cold water gloves. I understand it takes years and years and years to accumulate the princely sum of $7.95 when you rely solely on dowsing.
 
Garrette said:
Apparently not enough gold for you to be able to afford cold water gloves. I understand it takes years and years and years to accumulate the princely sum of $7.95 when you rely solely on dowsing.
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I have the ones at the top of the list, three pairs; they are good for Snyping,
in the spring, and I have worn out the wet suit types, they don’t last.
All gloves get wet inside that constricts blood flow, which makes it colder in the Fall and winter.
When your Snyping you are actually in the water with a wet suit and mask possibly weights, fanning the bottom the rough bottom cuts your hands but with the currents you can uncover lots of ground by hand.
Gloves are handy then and with the water warming they then insulate your hands but only for an hour at best.

It's a tough racket.

Once your hands get use to the cold you can take the cold easier.
But that first time is shocking.

“Snyping”, new spelling.

In the winter months I sliuce and try to stay dry.
In the summer I dredge.

My time doing this is limited so i'm enjoying it.
 
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