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Dowsing 4 gold

Yes we did and it was done two times as we perfected it.
First time I got 5 out of ten then 7 out of ten exactly as I have it above.
And as was pointed out in that thread (which I can't find any more), your result is no better than that expected by random chance.

And that only at odds of 1:100 - certainly nowhere near the threshold of 1:10,000 set by JREF at your MDC thread.
 

Well it is actually and not just that, you don't want to go there, because that test is null and void.
And you are what, a moderator? Shouldn’t you moderate your own post?

For me it was a major experiment that didn't follow the protocols, that's from an insider that talked with Jeff on what they did when placing the targets.
I only found out recently, from another thread; now I know I'm right, and the next test done with SezMe proved it, look those tests up.
The question is can I endure 100 passes, from what I know at about 80 I start to tire.
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http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2722435#post2722435

My other test in the creek in unknown ground using a dredge and snipping proved it again.
17 out of 21 times.

Now with my new protocol redone to perfection was rejected because the container is placed always on the same spot and only the target appears in that spot one of ten times X ten sets.

Because this is what I heard, after I left the room in their office where the first testing was done, they moved my containers slightly after each try so I wouldn't be able to tell where they may have placed the target.

But I was to place the containers where there was a neutral spot, how could it be neutral if moved off my spot? That alone tweaked my results.
Back onto the areas that had the interferences?

I don't think they did that on purpose but it answers my question on the low hits at their office.

What I was looking for at the time was proof that we could get power from the field of the earth; something the tether experiment did later using the shuttle mission, STS75.
I started thinking about this at about 1984/85.
After all my fears were the earth dying from pollution, but are we ready to get off of fossil fuels?
Not to mention what’s going on in the Gulf now!
The earth battery proves this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmNoLfjIEac
Tesla knew this and there must be a way to get there, what we learned traveling at 17,000 miles an hour was that so much power was produced that it fried the cable to the tether.
There was a flaw in the tether itself, but it worked.
The idea was to let the shuttle drag the tether across the Earth's magnetic field, producing one part of a dynamo circuit. The return current, from the shuttle to the payload, would flow in the Earth's ionosphere, which also conducted electricity, even though not as well as the wire. One purpose of such a set-up might be to produce electric power, generating current to run equipment aboard the space shuttle. That electric comes at a price: it is taken away from the motion energy ("kinetic energy") of the shuttle, since the magnetic force on the tether opposes the motion and slows it down. In principle, it should also be possible to reverse this process: a future space station could use solar cells to produce an electric current, which would be pumped into the tether in the opposite direction, so that the magnetic force would boost the orbital motion and would raise the orbit to a higher altitude.
http://www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov/Education/wtether.html


Now my next question is can we do that at lower speeds, on the ground?

So now how does this fit in with this thread?

What I was thinking then was if God knew what we would need, since at this time we have fossil fuels, would he allow us to advance away from fossil fuels?

By this I mean that lets say we could would something new like this… draw on that kind of power is it something that could destroy us, is this something we are allowed to do, to find? I only see were we would have a new type of platform to deliver our current weapons.

Or if we had this could we make another weapon of mass destruction something worse than what we already have?

The tether experiment proves we can.
If I am right a small amount of power in produces more work out with extra energy.

If they, (JREF), would have lost that million they would have made a billion.

Seven or eight of the good spots where here where the dredge is in the picture, where I tested in the creek, something else the JREF won’t do.

We are headed to global warming because of all the pollution, and after that the next ice age.

I knew this in 1980/81.
Experimenting is a lot of fun.
 

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On the news today; Scientists say today that the chicken had to come before the egg.

They say that certain proteins in the shell are made inside the chicken only, they left it up to a computer to figure out, after all the information was placed in it.
Anyway I found it interesting, and I'm sure this argument isn't over.

As far as the dowsing thing, it isn’t quit perpetual as some power has to go in, and that comes from our bodies, it’s such a small amount for such a great force, on a small scale that comes from it in the form of working motion.
What I am really amazed at is what if we could power it up with more electrical current, how much more working force would you get.
Any way if you understand this and if true, you could theorize spin offs that could be related to attraction towards magnetic fields, and what would that do in a zero gravity situation, and think… what are the biggest magnetic fields?
I find it interesting, what’s next for us as far as motion and power, where do we look? .
 
Well it is actually and not just that, you don't want to go there, because that test is null and void.

<snip>

My other test in the creek in unknown ground using a dredge and snipping proved it again.
17 out of 21 times.

Now with my new protocol redone to perfection was rejected because the container is placed always on the same spot and only the target appears in that spot one of ten times X ten sets.

Because this is what I heard, after I left the room in their office where the first testing was done, they moved my containers slightly after each try so I wouldn't be able to tell where they may have placed the target.

But I was to place the containers where there was a neutral spot, how could it be neutral if moved off my spot? That alone tweaked my results.
Back onto the areas that had the interferences?

I don't think they did that on purpose but it answers my question on the low hits at their office.

<snip stream of consciousness stuff>

Edge, are you saying that you were able to dowse successfully 17 out of 21 times in uncontrolled conditions (the creek) but were unsuccessful with the cups because they may have been slightly moved?

Does dowsing really only work for you when something is in a "neutral spot"?
 
On the news today; Scientists say today that the chicken had to come before the egg.

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Well, Dr Karl, ABC Triplej out of Australia, talked about this on today's podcast. He had to buy the article for $35 US, and read it very carefully. Nowhere did any of the scientists address, let alone answer, the question of "which came first?"

He explained in great detail what the paper actually said, and finished by having to assume that some reporter must have asked something like "so this answers the question, which came first?", and the scientist probably said something like, "well, sort of I guess, but not really". Dr Karl explained how he has been misquoted also.
 
Edge, are you saying that you were able to dowse successfully 17 out of 21 times in uncontrolled conditions (the creek) but were unsuccessful with the cups because they may have been slightly moved?

Does dowsing really only work for you when something is in a "neutral spot"?

Well if there is a target underneath where you placed another target over it, it being something there that's unknown, or in the area, close like six inches or less.

I can't put an empty cup down on a spot if I am getting a reading, whether the target is there or not I would then get a reading always till that object is removed.

On the creek you have to do work and you don't know till you uncover it.

If they moved the positions in that confined area then you could gain several like three or more give or take then that would have an affect.

That test I did with SezMe was like it is on the creek I looked at only ten spots made a determination there was three good targets there and knowing what the weaker hit was, really nothing I wouldn't waste my labor digging there.

I would go for the good hits, one of the ten I might be wrong.
But that’s when my partner hits maybe?
 
Well, Dr Karl, ABC Triplej out of Australia, talked about this on today's podcast. He had to buy the article for $35 US, and read it very carefully. Nowhere did any of the scientists address, let alone answer, the question of "which came first?"

He explained in great detail what the paper actually said, and finished by having to assume that some reporter must have asked something like "so this answers the question, which came first?", and the scientist probably said something like, "well, sort of I guess, but not really". Dr Karl explained how he has been misquoted also.

That's all I got but you know how the media is and.... are they controlled, used?
 
A few questions to clarify the protocol:

How will the containers be moved underneath this apparatus? Would placing them in a wagon or cart or on a small platform pulled along a rail work?

How long will each container have to be stationary underneath the dowsing tripod?

And you mention the containers being covered. After the "open" test is concluded, would it be acceptable for each container to be placed randomly into identical cardboard boxes in a location where you cannot see them? (I am assuming someone you bring with you can oversee that, but not then be present when the boxes are shown to you).

Sure exactly cover them twice, I am about to test my target just got it today it's five or more pounds of mercury. I'll have to weight it.
I need a target that will bottom out the scale and it took a while to get it.

I need a target that is unmistakably heavy and noticeable, it's really compact and super heavy, I can't save that amount of gold because I spend it.

The targets will have to be place by hand on the same exact spot.
I am trying to make this as easy as I can.
Whether or not they test me I will find out for myself if I am right.

This will alltake more time.
But I should have an update.
 
How long will they have to be under the tripod?
If it works out like I think not long at all... a minute topps.
 
And as was pointed out in that thread (which I can't find any more), your result is no better than that expected by random chance.

And that only at odds of 1:100 - certainly nowhere near the threshold of 1:10,000 set by JREF at your MDC thread.

You still in here?

One step at a time.
 
Sure exactly cover them twice, I am about to test my target just got it today it's five or more pounds of mercury. I'll have to weight it.
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(Bolding is mine)
Wow, that's a lot of a very dangerous metal. Why mercury?
 
Wow, that's a lot of a very dangerous metal. Why mercury?
Because it's very shiny, and cheaper than gold.

So Edge, can you still dowse for quartz crystals like you supplied in your original failed dowsing attempt? They're quite cheap, you know.
 
You still in here?

One step at a time.
I am, and since you quoted me and the test you did with Sezme, let's just remind ourselves of the results of that test that you claim to be successful.

The result was no better than that expected by random chance.

i.e. guessing.

ETA: and failed.
 
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Because it's very shiny, and cheaper than gold.

So Edge, can you still dowse for quartz crystals like you supplied in your original failed dowsing attempt? They're quite cheap, you know.

Forget about what I did back then and worry about what I do next.

Fool me once shame on me but you won't the next time.

Mercury binds to gold and platinum and all three are close on the atomic scale, I will have something to report Sunday night.

I am hoping that the target is like a pile of gold in the creek unmistakable.
As far as danger there is none as long as it stays sealed and then double sealed.

The amount I have is compact and so heavy and if you walk and carry it, it almost acts as a gyroscope, it disrupts your balance, can't explain it any better than that.

Its average price is about 10 dollars a pound; I would say I have about 100 dollars worth.

I predict that JREF will not test me no matter what.
 
It was the gold lettering on the books!

JREF tricked me!

I lied about everything being fine in the open test!

If you are tested again, I'm sure you will come up with a fresh set of excuses.
 
Because this is what I heard, after I left the room in their office where the first testing was done, they moved my containers slightly after each try so I wouldn't be able to tell where they may have placed the target.

But I was to place the containers where there was a neutral spot, how could it be neutral if moved off my spot? That alone tweaked my results.

How much were the containers moved?

Did the testers admit to moving the containers?
 

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