Dowsing 4 gold

[tsig]

That's why he's not rich. It's always just out of range.

Steve S

That would be the Rockies?

 

[EHocking]

Some one in here stated that physics’/phisists say that the effect can’t be measured,

That would be because the ideomotor effect is psychological.

Physicists don't carry out psychological studies...

 

[Rincewind]

I know it's OT, but I just had to say that if the wonderful scenery shown earlier in the thread is Edge's "back yard", then I'm jealous as H*ll!!



Sorry for the derail...

 

[edge]

I know it's OT, but I just had to say that if the wonderful scenery shown earlier in the thread is Edge's "back yard", then I'm jealous as H*ll!!



Sorry for the derail...

Some times it is my back yard.
Those are other peoples photos and from friends still up there.

 

[RoboTimbo]

Some times it is my back yard.
Those are other peoples photos and from friends still up there.

Edge, what is the ideomotor effect? In your own words, please.

 

[Sledge]

edge, I'm still curious. If you require at least five pounds of gold for your dowsing skills to detect it, how do you know this? Do you have five pounds of gold available to try your powers on?

edge? You there?

 

[Ladewig]

edge? You there?

Well, as long as we are going to repeat questions that Edge skipped....

How long if you advertise this test in a park do you think 5 pounds of gold would last in today’s world without incident?
The mercury proved my point, it quickly bottoms out my scale and lead is on that same level, but I must test that too. I only get a base line reading with no target there.
I wish it was zero but it seems to be more.

Did you do a test with 5 pounds of mercury? Did you do test with 5 pounds of lead?

 

[edge]

It doesn't take that much in the field, only to get the right numbers on the scale so it will be unmistakably noticeable whether the target is there and when it is not.
The scale gives me that if all the other conditions are correct.

Up date on the sticks, or rods, what ever... the copper one I made and tried and it is too sensitive for the test and too heavy, it dives deeper in the neutral spot with out the target giving highere numbers, I have to go find a willow branch, it will have to dry some.

The main reason is that it’s weight will not exceed it’s pull, I just can’t keep the copper one in equilibrium long enough, but the copper one is probably better on the creek.
I finally got the correct balance bent at the handles and insulated them, so there is no contact by me to the copper metal, so now I know why the wood for this test will work
And if it works what is powering it for sure and why besides weight of it gives lower readings when the target is not there.
I will have to prove that again with a new dowsing stick/rod…If that doesn’t do it I am done.
The copper one is a simple loop antenna.
I taped the ends then put round foam weather strips on that and taped it again and the tip is insulated from the two wires, in the end there where I am pointing is a 1964 silver quarter.
The thinnest wire I could use for this purpose weights 4 ounces and when hung on the scale, it was 4 feet long before bending it in the shape you see there.
Bottoms out the scale when hanging there with out touching it, which is too much to balance for 100 times or pulls.

As far as the ideomotor effect there’s some of that going on but in general if your finding it or not it seems to work pretty accurately as long as you are done quickly, looking in an area…when dowsing a spot on the river which means don’t dowse too much.


I have the lead now too, along with the mercury but I am only testing the sticks and the targets right now trying to establish the base numbers I will use to do a full test.

I haven’t dowsed in almost two years and if I test and fail I won’t dowse till I get back to mining.
I probably won’t be mining anyway any time soon.
But if and when I do you won’t be hearing about that and this will be done.

Anyway when I don't have anything to do is when I deal with this, I will let you know what I find as I find it, and like I said this test protocol I am using can not be improved on, if this test fails then for all intents and purposes so does dowsing...And I do not need the Jref test to tell me that.

I don’t need their money to prove it either.

 

[Sledge]

It doesn't take that much in the field, only to get the right numbers on the scale so it will be unmistakably noticeable whether the target is there and when it is not.

So you don't need five pounds of gold to successfully dowse for it, only if you want to know if it's there. What the hell are you talking about?

 

[Ladewig]

It doesn't take that much in the field, only to get the right numbers on the scale so it will be unmistakably noticeable whether the target is there and when it is not.
The scale gives me that if all the other conditions are correct.

YOu said that to successfully perform a demonstration in a controlled testing environment you needed at least five pounds of the material. If you have not performed tests with five pounds of mercury, lead or gold, then I assert that the five pound figure was pulled from your imagination and has no evidence to support it. You simply made up a number knowing that no one would produce five pounds of gold (or mercury) for your testing. You have no idea whether you need one pound, three pounds or five pounds because you did no test at all. This is just another example of you making things up.

 

[paximperium]

Wow...just wow.

 

[edge]

YOu said that to successfully perform a demonstration in a controlled testing environment you needed at least five pounds of the material. If you have not performed tests with five pounds of mercury, lead or gold, then I assert that the five pound figure was pulled from your imagination and has no evidence to support it. You simply made up a number knowing that no one would produce five pounds of gold (or mercury) for your testing. You have no idea whether you need one pound, three pounds or five pounds because you did no test at all. This is just another example of you making things up.

What?

I have the lead now too, along with the mercury but I am only testing the sticks and the targets right now trying to establish the base numbers I will use to do a full test.

In bold:
What does this say?
Which means what?

You are denser than I thought...Wow oh wow is right.

I am the one who has to produce everything.

 

[Mirrorglass]

So in other words, you will produce ten five pound gold bricks for the test?

 

[paximperium]

So Edge. If your technique is so powerful, you should easily have a few pounds of gold available...right?

 

[Ladewig]

What?

In bold:
What does this say?
Which means what?

You are denser than I thought...Wow oh wow is right.

I am the one who has to produce everything.

So you told us that a successful test needed five pounds BEFORE YOU DID ANY TESTING. Therefore you made the number up. You didn't say, I think I need five pounds; you didn't say, I suspect I need five pounds; you said, I need five pounds. You made the number up. Just admit it.


ETA: post #82 "this is why I need 5 pounds or more for a target" You pulled that number from your ass because at that time you had absolutely no evidence for how much metal would be needed for a controlled test.

 

[Ladewig]

So Edge. If your technique is so powerful, you should easily have a few pounds of gold available...right?

He already addressed this issue. He does not have the self-discipline to save all the gold he finds. He sells it before he can accumulate a large amount.

 

[Sledge]

What do you want to bet he doesn't keep the receipts?

 

[paximperium]

He already addressed this issue. He does not have the self-discipline to save all the gold he finds. He sells it before he can accumulate a large amount.

Edge,
With so much gold, you must be a multi-millionaire. Your millions must make Randi's million dollars laughable.

Can I sit in your Lamborghini or Ferrari?
Would you mind if you take a nice picture of your yacht and villa? I really like your nice pictures.

 

[tsig]

What?

In bold:
What does this say?
Which means what?

You are denser than I thought...Wow oh wow is right.

I am the one who has to produce everything.

That's because you're the on making the claims. All we're asking for is some proof that those claims are accurate.

 

[Blackwell]

Nice pics, edge. So are you dowsing for 1964 quarters? Or for silver in general?
Or maybe you're just dowsing for black electrical tape?