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Door to door religion

Upchurch

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I know we have this thread from time to time, but it just happened to me (again) and I feel the need to vent.

Why is it that some religions feel that they can change another person's religious standing by bothering them at their homes? I know they do it because part of their faith is to evangelize, but is this the most effective way they can think of to accomplish that? As we've seen on this board, how many times are people swayed in their beliefs by nothing more than argument? I didn't give them the chance this time because I'm (supposed to be) working, but they never have any compelling arguments anyway.

I just want to say "Grr" :mad:
 
Try to sell them Amway. That's what I do (I don't have any Amway and I don't know what I'd do if they call my bluff but it's fun anyway).

But seriously, I think they do it because they think they will succeed in converting SOMEONE, I think most of them take the view 'Even if I only save one soul, it's worth it'. And I think there are just enough people out there who are....how to put this nicely....nah, screw nice....gullible enough to buy what the missionaries are selling that they probably do get an occasional hit and that's what keeps them going on.

As for keeping them from coming back, I have it on good authority (I have a good friend taht is the worlds least pushy Jehovahs Witness) that if you ask them not to come back they will put you on a 'Do not visit' list and you wont be bothered again for a year (they will try again in a year in case you moved) and I understand that the Mormons have a similar policy.
 
I came to the door in my underwear and still quite drunk from the night before (it was WAY early on a Sunday morn!!!). My apperance took the wind right out of those sails!

Barkhorn.
 
Upchurch said:
I know we have this thread from time to time, but it just happened to me (again) and I feel the need to vent.

Why is it that some religions feel that they can change another person's religious standing by bothering them at their homes? I know they do it because part of their faith is to evangelize, but is this the most effective way they can think of to accomplish that? As we've seen on this board, how many times are people swayed in their beliefs by nothing more than argument? I didn't give them the chance this time because I'm (supposed to be) working, but they never have any compelling arguments anyway.

I just want to say "Grr" :mad:
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Upchurch,

I agree with you 100%. I an not a big fan of door to door evangelism. It is not an effective way to share one's faith, IMHO.
 
Upchurch said:
I know we have this thread from time to time, but it just happened to me (again) and I feel the need to vent.

Why is it that some religions feel that they can change another person's religious standing by bothering them at their homes? I know they do it because part of their faith is to evangelize, but is this the most effective way they can think of to accomplish that? As we've seen on this board, how many times are people swayed in their beliefs by nothing more than argument? I didn't give them the chance this time because I'm (supposed to be) working, but they never have any compelling arguments anyway.

I just want to say "Grr" :mad:
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It makes me say "Grr" too!

We had some Jehovah witnesses come to our door on Christmas morning!!! If it wasn't for the fact they were two elderly ladies, we would not have been so civil to them. I thought it was very underhanded for the church to send out two elderly people to do their dirty work. They had to witness about the evils of celebrating christmas on the very say itself and knew that it would be dangerous to send anyone under 70 out to do this.

We have a very cult-like legalistic church in this area (not affliliated with Jehovah Witness) who are obsessed with door to door evangelism. They come out in droves. They really get my dander up. If you don't watch it, they start witnessing to your children who are playing on the streets, even if your children are already Christians. They will get your children to let them pray with them right outside your house without you knowing unless you happen to look outside. :mad: :mad:
 
WinAce's Theist Questionnaire had an interesting question that comes into mind when I hear about evangelism

If people who have never heard the Gospels are judged on their relative merits, many morally objectionable results, such as infants, third-world tribesmen or honestly mistaken people unfairly going to hell, are removed. If that is the case, people who have heard the Gospels, however, will be judged mainly by whether or not they accepted them. The theological implications are entirely shocking: if you're basically a good person, the main effect hearing the story of Jesus will have is increase your chances of going to Hell, should you reject it. Conversely, if you're a very evil person, hearing the Good News will only increase your chances of going to Heaven, should you accept it. Suppressing Christianity may thus paradoxically result in more good souls being saved and more evil ones being condemned, which is more in line with our own values of fairness. Given this stunning possibility, could completely refusing to evangelize Christianity itself, instead promoting a just ethical code, actually be the morally right thing to do, despite the possible consequences to your own salvation?
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So if they go around spreading their religion like a pox, it will result in people being damned that couldn't convert from their current religion or that were too skeptical because they would be obligated to believe in it simply by knowing about it.

Ignorance, it would seem, would be the best policy. One can't be held accountable for what one doesn't know.

- Preston
 
I had a bunch of drunk friends over for the weekend once, and some "witnesses" came to my door. I can't remember what kind they were. I'm just too polite to say anything nasty to them, but they heard the uproar behind me and volunteered to "come back later".

After I told my friends who was at the door, they were disappointed. They said they would have gladly chased each other naked down the hall behind me to drive them off. I'm just keeping that in mind.

(they never came back)
 
Garlic on the windows (sorta)

I posted a small, neatly engraved sign on the front door that sums up my opinions nicely:

No Sales People
No Surveys
No Religious Groups

No Fooling.


It's worked well for any itinerant evangelists, but the long-distance companies can't seem to see it, and the local enterprenuer who wants to mow my lawn hasn't realized that he's actually in Sales.

Regards;
Beanbag
 
Re: Garlic on the windows (sorta)

No surveys? What kind of mofo are you?

;)
 
Last time I had Jehovah's witnesses at home I showed them my book case full of Zecharia Sitchin space aliens crap. That sure scared them away.
 
This is what I do, I look through the peep hole, see that the person or persons are no one I know, and I don't answer the door no matter how many times they knock or even if they know I'm home.





works every time, simple isn't.
 
Thats why you should always keep pamphlets by your door. Then when the Jehovahs Witnesses come up to your door just hand them a pamplet on Atheism or maybe something funny like Baha'i and try to drag them into your religion. Or you could invite them in, tell them to wait in your guest living room downstairs and then never open the door... well you would open the door about 5 days later revealing to them that there god was real or even so much as cared what they were doing, he would have opened the door and not forced the bigger person from eating the smaller person. Or you could just tell the Jehovah's Witnesses to get off your property and stop bugging the hell out of people.
 
Sometimes I play with the idea of using this same tactic on them,except that it would be in order to convert them to atheism.
Would love to see their,or actually about anyone´s face under such surprise.
I just do not know what books to carry around or what kind of fliers to hand out.
 
I had a college friend who was pagan. While staying at his parents' house in a small town in Michigan, two older Jehovah's witnesses came to the door. He cursed, opened the door, and just as they were about to start their evangelistic spiel, he sighed and said,

"Ladies, I'm so sorry, I can't talk right now. I had a sacrifice here last night, and there's chicken blood and feathers all over the kitchen. I have to clean it up before my parents get home. Now, if you'll excuse me - " and he shut the door.

An hour later those ladies were still on his doorstep, praying. :D

I respect people with other faiths, but I agree that it is downright rude to come to your door. And Ruby, I can't believe those "witnesses" would be so bold and stupid as to use their children to pray with others' children! Sheesh...

I can really understand why nonreligious people really hate religious people.
 
c4ts said:
If only feeding JWs pot brownies weren't against the law...
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A couple of people I know actually did that. Needless to say, the JH's started feeling wierd, left, and haven't been back since.
 
Yes, the real reason they do it is that it works. You never know when you'll find someone who's bereaved or ill or otherwise so weakened that the fundies can ensnare and then screw the heck out of their minds while they're down. Maybe coerce some big donations out of them before they die (or wake up).

It works a little like this:

"You're feeling down? Well, we can make you feel better. It's our CHURCH that does that, not your natural recovery. And you see all those friends and relatives, they are EVIL and they are what makes you feel bad. Stay away from them. Only the CHURCH is good! Now BEG God for forgiveness at our church for your sins that are so numerous we can't even tell you, UNWORTHY slime!"

A moment's weakness is all it takes, and your kids could become brain-washed, door-knocking morons, just like the rest of them them. Children naturally have many moments of weakness, so they're easy prey to these bastards.

Like child molestors, they'll get other children they've ensnared to "invite" your kids over for fun and treats and comics, and it's religious crap and fear-o-god, chanting and maybe even some Chick tract comic books (as promised). Right down to the "keep this secret" part.

Wouldn't it be nice to wake up one morning and be confronted at your door by a niece or nephew or child of yours with a box full of pamphlets and a sincere look on their face?

Oh well, support those prayers in schools, so you can have religious wackos talking to your kids about "god" and "jesus" and "what god wants" while you're absent. Good deal. The schools already have them trying to sell candy, magazines and junk at people's doors. Just baby steps away.

Like drugs, violence and sex, teach your kids about religion while they're young, or somebody else will teach them for you.
 
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