shanek said:
That wasn't the lie. The lie was twofold: 1) the omission of excises as another method of payment; and 2) the denial that usage fees do not necessitate the service being exclusive to those who pay the fees.
If you had just said "excise taxes" the debate would have ended there. I did not ommit anything, you gave "usage fees" as part of your answer so I chose to comment on them. If the "usage fees" are optional, as you seem to be claiming now, then there is a different word for that, "donations".
In the real world, if a service has usage fee's associated with it, only those that pay the fee's are entitled to the service.
That is absolutely untrue. Let's say you go to your county office and get a building permit. You pay $X in exchange for the permit. Do you really think that the $X you gave them is the exact amount of the expenses of giving you the permit and no more?
And if you don't or can't pay the fee you don't get the permit. What's your point?
And then, of course, there are the excises you keep ignoring and pretending I never said.
I'm not talking about excises, I'm talking about "usage fees". If you only meant excise taxes, you should have left it at that. Considering you put "usage fees" first you obviously think that's where a large part of the funding will come from.