Merged Does CERN prove Einstein wrong?

[Anders Lindman]

Cooler than the air around it. It's caused during the pressure lowering phase of the wave. At the distances of the clouds in the foreground the wave passes through the air and once it has passed the air goes back to the way it was before the shock wave. It causes temporary condensation.

A Wilson Cloud. Wouldn't the heat radiation from an atom bomb explosion heat up the air molecules within a huge radius which would prevent any Wilson Cloud from being formed?

 

[Greedo]

Let's look at a really crazy conspiracy theory. This is fun. Let's say that nuclear power plants are a hoax. Why would they fake something like that? To create a public front for secret energy technologies such as zero-point energy extraction. A bit far-fetched conspiracy theory, but what the heck.

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Is this what goes on in your head before you start threads? Explains things...

 

[nomuse]

Can make this even simpler.

Anders, is FISSION fake? What are naturally radioactive materials doing? What is the energy source in a radium-paint watch face or a tritium night sight? What is it about a lump of uranium ore that causes the leaves of an electroscope to fly apart, and clicks to be heard in an old-style Geiger Counter?

 

[Anders Lindman]

You seem to be capable of believing quite a bit...

So why not act on your beliefs - it's easy enough to go into the Chernobyl exclusion zone, so go in there, go as close as you can to the reactor core, drink some water you find, etc. Record all that on video as you go.

After you get out - perfectly healthy, since it's all a hoax - you'll be super famous and can make millions from speaking tours.

I just posted a very speculative idea about this, about how radioactivity maybe is something that isn't dangerous but that the gatekeeper scientists have fooled people to believe it's dangerous so that they can more easily keep things hidden from the public in the name of safety and security and so on: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7632644&postcount=719

 

[Anders Lindman]

Can make this even simpler.

Anders, is FISSION fake? What are naturally radioactive materials doing? What is the energy source in a radium-paint watch face or a tritium night sight? What is it about a lump of uranium ore that causes the leaves of an electroscope to fly apart, and clicks to be heard in an old-style Geiger Counter?

Radioactive radiation is real since Geiger counters can verify that directly. However, I started speculating about how radioactivity is maybe not dangerous.

 

[Drachasor]

You seem to be capable of believing quite a bit...

The best part is that all this big stuff involving tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people across the world in multiple governments is a CONSPIRACY AND FAKE (based on no evidence that withstands the slightest scrutiny), but the CERN experiment done by a relatively small group has to be real. Hypocritical reasoning.

 

[Hans]

I just posted a very speculative idea about this, about how radioactivity maybe is something that isn't dangerous but that the gatekeeper scientists have fooled people to believe it's dangerous so that they can more easily keep things hidden from the public in the name of safety and security and so on: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7632644&postcount=719

Unfortunately radioactivity was found in the late 19th century......were they faking stuff then too? LOL

 

[Drachasor]

Radioactive radiation is real since Geiger counters can verify that directly. However, I started speculating about how radioactivity is maybe not dangerous.

Geiger counters don't take actual readings. Modern ones are just GPS devices where it has been decided what locations on the planet should appear radioactive. They can be updated via radio signals to add new "hot spots."

Also, astronomy is fake and we actual live in a giant crystal sphere that encompasses the entire solar system.

 

[Hans]

Geiger counters don't take actual readings. Modern ones are just GPS devices where it has been decided what locations on the planet should appear radioactive. They can be updated via radio signals to add new "hot spots."

Also, astronomy is fake and we actual live in a giant crystal sphere that encompasses the entire solar system.

I thought the great bowl sat on the back of a constipated turtle and its turtles all the way down from there?

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

A Wilson Cloud. Wouldn't the heat radiation from an atom bomb explosion heat up the air molecules within a huge radius which would prevent any Wilson Cloud from being formed?

Only close to the fireball. And you'd get convection in that area. And it would happen prior to the schock wave reaching those clouds.

 

[Drachasor]

I thought the great bowl sat on the back of a constipated turtle and its turtles all the way down from there?

All the way down to the bottom of the sphere where the bottom ones walk around.

 

[nomuse]

I just posted a very speculative idea about this, about how radioactivity maybe is something that isn't dangerous but that the gatekeeper scientists have fooled people to believe it's dangerous so that they can more easily keep things hidden from the public in the name of safety and security and so on: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7632644&postcount=719

Which form? High-energy photons, charged particles? Alpha, beta, gamma radiation? Are they all equally fake? Can I stand in front of an industrial x-ray machine without danger? What about a medical beta source?

 

[Anders Lindman]

Unfortunately radioactivity was found in the late 19th century......were they faking stuff then too? LOL

Yeah, but I have heard stories about how at first they didn't think radioactivity was dangerous, and at amusement parks people could see their own skeleton by being bombarded by huge levels of radioactive radiation, and in shoe shops customers could check how their shoes fit by using some similar device that emitted lots of radioactive radiation. And if I remember correctly they also sold radioactive skin lotions! lol. Seriously!

 

[Anders Lindman]

Which form? High-energy photons, charged particles? Alpha, beta, gamma radiation? Are they all equally fake? Can I stand in front of an industrial x-ray machine without danger? What about a medical beta source?

Not fake, since Geiger counters show that the radiation is real. But is the radiation really dangerous? I'm not willing to test that myself. It's just a speculative conspiracy theory.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Only close to the fireball. And you'd get convection in that area. And it would happen prior to the schock wave reaching those clouds.

But wouldn't the heat radiation be intense for a vast radius, traveling near the speed of light? And heat up the air molecules within a volume so large that it would prevent any Wilson Cloud from forming. The radiation quickly gets weaker the larger the radius gets but still, wouldn't a huge volume of the air be heated enough to prevent Wilson Clouds?

 

[Travis]

A Wilson Cloud. Wouldn't the heat radiation from an atom bomb explosion heat up the air molecules within a huge radius which would prevent any Wilson Cloud from being formed?

Only close to the fireball. Shock waves propagate out way farther than thermal energy does.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Geiger counters don't take actual readings. Modern ones are just GPS devices where it has been decided what locations on the planet should appear radioactive. They can be updated via radio signals to add new "hot spots."

Also, astronomy is fake and we actual live in a giant crystal sphere that encompasses the entire solar system.

GPS in Geiger counters, now that would really explain the strange measurements from the Japanese nuclear disaster.

A giant crystal sphere? A Dyson Sphere!

 

[Greedo]

GPS in Geiger counters, now that would really explain the strange measurements from the Japanese nuclear disaster.

A giant crystal sphere? A Dyson Sphere!

Even Agent Scully thinks that's pretty stupid.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Only close to the fireball. Shock waves propagate out way farther than thermal energy does.

Eh, radiation from the sun is to a large part heat radiation you know. So the heat radiation will travel very far. It will get weaker the larger the radius, but the question is how the air molecules will be heated up and over how large volume.

 

[nomuse]

Maybe this is what he was thinking of:

http://www.dyson.com/vacuums/ball/default.asp