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Do "straight" women exist?

Skeptic Ginger said:
Sheesh, didn't anyone question the methodology?

And this method of measuring sexual attraction/arousal couldn't possibly have false positive results?

You know, that logical fallacy: people sexually aroused do X
does not mean all people doing X are sexually aroused.

Not buying it.
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Given the similarity of the methodology to that used for sexual offender testing, I'm on the fence as to its accuracy; particularly as it does appear to be properly controlled, with at least some of the variables taken into account. I think a great deal more testing would be needed, and should include more extensive physiological response testing. However, this is not the first study to find female sexuality to be more fluid than male sexuality. Still not enough hard data to make any kind of conclusive determination, though.
 
Meadmaker said:
Popular reporting of scientific papers is sometimes awful.
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I skimmed the study. It definitely did not say everything the article claimed it did. More crappy reporting going on here. The study simply found that female sexuality, while encompassing the extremes of pure hetero/homosexuality, had a great deal more flexibility, and a lot less of the extremes, than popular belief would hold. Nothing entirely controversial there, since its no the first study to find that.

I do have some issues with the methodology, particularly the reliance on a fairly limited physiological measurement. Better data is needed before we can draw any useful conclusions.
 
luchog said:
I do have some issues with the methodology, particularly the reliance on a fairly limited physiological measurement. Better data is needed before we can draw any useful conclusions.
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Because simply asking a woman if she is straight, bi or gay doesn't give you the answer you seek?
 
The Atheist said:
Only when they lock away their gay tendencies.

When there are no females, men are quite happy to indulge in gay sex, From lonely cowboys to prison inmates to men on long sea trips, any old orifice will do.

It seems pretty clear to me that all humans being honest with themselves are a little bit pink rainbow in the middle.
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For the few somewhat long period i was with men (hiking camping whatnot) I never ever felt a single bit of attraction to men. Not a smidge.

Frankly, I don't see why you would need a man. If there is no wife/girlfriend/onenightstand/friendwithbenefits/prostitute/whatever (strike as relevant) in proximity then "the widow 'hand' and her 5 sisters" fulfill the need without having to resort to gay sex.

What skew the perspective above, is that in prison for example there is a power play which comes and change the deal. I am pretty sure there is no wild gay men orgy in military and ship, and those are pretty much majority men stuff.

OTOH (taliban?) like to diddle little boy as a culture. So go figure.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Sheesh, didn't anyone question the methodology?



And this method of measuring sexual attraction/arousal couldn't possibly have false positive results?

You know, that logical fallacy: people sexually aroused do X
does not mean all people doing X are sexually aroused.

Not buying it.
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That is because it is BS. The same sorts of techniques were used to prove that bisexual men do not exist about a decade ago.
 
mgidm86 said:
I found some old statistics that claim 2% of prison inmates have consensual gay sex.
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Hmmm. Studies are showing that about 8% of men are gay. Does "consensual homosexual activity" actually decrease when men are confined to environments where there are only men?

Maybe that's not a valid comparison.
 
William Parcher said:
Because simply asking a woman if she is straight, bi or gay doesn't give you the answer you seek?
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Not in a culture where homosexuality is routinely demonized, and homosexual attraction suppressed and denied in order to fit into such a culture.

Just think about how many public figures have loudly insisted they are completely and irredeemably straight, and have actively promoted anti-homosexual agendas, only to be caught later in homosexual trysts or soliciting homosexual sex.

Just think about how many celebrities have lived openly heterosexual lives, or at least portrayed a staunchly heterosexual life, only to "come out" later in life, or to be outed some time after death by those who were closest to them.

In science, self-reporting is considered the least reliable source of data, for a very good reason.
 
Belz... said:
So I don't exist, then. Great, now how am I going to explain this to my folks?
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Wear a long sleeved shirt. They'll never notice.

luchog said:
I think a great deal more testing would be needed, and should include more extensive physiological response testing.
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Physiological responses have been shown to be highly inaccurate, though, and the "turned on by horses doing it" shows the problem - showing signs of arousal is not necessarily horny, and some men show signs of arousal in states of fear.

(Lucky, really)

What you need is a working truth serum to get honest answers. Then, you might form an accurate picture.

Or, you could just ask them how they feel about Carolina Montengro:

 
William Parcher said:
Hmmm. Studies are showing that about 8% of men are gay. Does "consensual homosexual activity" actually decrease when men are confined to environments where there are only men?

Maybe that's not a valid comparison.
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Or a disproportionate number of straight men are imprisoned. Or the inmates find out someone is homosexual and decide not to ask first. Or sexual assault against homosexuals is under-reported. It could even be that homosexuals are better at hiding consensual sex than straight men, as in many areas that would be a survival skill for them.

Such statistics, without context, really don't say much.
 
The Atheist said:
Physiological responses have been shown to be highly inaccurate, though, and the "turned on by horses doing it" shows the problem - showing signs of arousal is not necessarily horny, and some men show signs of arousal in states of fear.
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Obviously physiological responses are not the whole picture; but they are a large part of it, and can provide a baseline for further investigation.

Or, you could just ask them how they feel about Carolina Montengro:
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By that measure I'd be predominantly gay. Girl is really not my type. I'll take Christina Hendricks over her any day of the week (and twice on Sundays).
 
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