Do Materialism and Evolution Theory Undermine Science?

[Nick227]

Don'/can't you see the connection?

Yes, there's a connection. But I don't consider the crits that the Wiki entry puts up against MD to be really such big deals. The basic model is great. I understand why Cartesian Theatre could be termed a straw man but to me to do so is not to really understand Dennett's perspective.

The idea he repeatedly tries to introduce, as does Blackmore, is that it is quite one thing to claim to have rejected Cartesian Dualism, but quite another to demonstrate this in the models of consciousness that one creates.

The term was coined by him.

Then you shouldn't have any problem citing me where Dennett says that "Cartesian Theatre is the limit of materialism."

If you can't understand terms such as "mind" and "consciousness", then why are you here?

I was not aware that there was an agreed definition of these terms. Would you care to point me to where it is.

You must mean 'Cartesian Theatre', other wise you fail English. Also you have yet to show any contradiction.

Cartesian Theatre is the model, Cartesian Materialist is the person who adheres to the model - consciously or otherwise. Dennett coined the latter term to refer to those who claimed to be materialist yet who's modelling of the inner circuitry in the brain still demonstrated duality. Typical examples of this include "trying to find a place in the brain where it all comes together in consciousness" and "trying to find a lone neuron or similar that is observing the theatre."

Nick

 

[AWPrime]

You obviously have little understanding of the subject, go read some more and then come back (pm me when your ready).