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Do clever people outsmart themselves?

Foster Zygote said:
So what does this have to do with the forum?
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It's full of smart, unhappy people.

At any rate, this appears to be hijacking the thread, and should probably be moved elsewhere?
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See? Unhappy.

Unhappy with the thread, unhappy with the thread drift. Probably unhappy with me in general, but the MA prohibits exploring that question.

And you're smart, too. Smart, and unhappy, and here. And you're probably not the only one.
 
Scorpion said:
Since it seems we cannot know for certain if there is a God by reasoning, we are only left with faith. It may be that there is a God and we, the human race, at our present level of evolution have constructed many myths about him that are not the truth.
It may be that many people of faith are misguided in their understanding of God even if there is one. I think we have seen religions evolve through history, and we no longer pray to a God of war like the Romans.
I am aware of occult and theosophical doctrines, and what can loosely be described as new age beliefs.
These seem to me to be progressive and moving away from the God of wrath of the Bible or Islam.
Maybe we just need a better God. That better God may even appeal to the intellect.
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Certainty is a red herring. I'd argue that it is moronic to use faith ever. Move away from superstition and fairy tales. Embrace reality for a change.
 
I can't help but notice I've never once seen a believer taken to task for being "certain" there is a God because they have faith.
 
theprestige said:
Hard to say. I don't see a lot of "dumb" people here. Just a lot of smart people harboring a lot of hate.
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WTH are you talking about? That's a lot of nonsense. I don't like religion. I don't like what it does to people. I don't like that it used to tell people how to and how not to live their lives.

But I don't hate Christians or Muslims or Sikhs or Catholics or even you Prestige. I can disagree with someone without hating them.

Trump OTOH I despise because he is a hateful lying POS working to tear this country apart.
 
theprestige said:
It's full of smart, unhappy people.
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And you know that they are unhappy, how?


See? Unhappy.

Unhappy with the thread, unhappy with the thread drift. Probably unhappy with me in general, but the MA prohibits exploring that question.

And you're smart, too. Smart, and unhappy, and here. And you're probably not the only one.
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So you can diagnose me as unhappy because I suggested that the thread might be off-topic and should perhaps be moved to another thread of its own? Well at least you had the decency to stop short of accusing me of "harboring a lot of hate".

By the way, I have a loving marriage and two children whom I absolutely adore. The fact that you think that I am unhappy (and by earlier implication, full of hate) simply because I asked you a question and suggested that this conversation may be better moved to a different thread tells me a lot more about you than you think you know about me. You appear to me to be engaging in a great deal of psychological projection.
 
acbytesla said:
WTH are you talking about? That's a lot of nonsense. I don't like religion. I don't like what it does to people. I don't like that it used to tell people how to and how not to live their lives.
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I guess I can see disliking something without being unhappy about it... Maybe?

But I don't hate Christians or Muslims or Sikhs or Catholics or even you Prestige. I can disagree with someone without hating them.
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Okay, sure. Not really seeing any unhappiness in this.

Trump OTOH I despise because he is a hateful lying POS working to tear this country apart.
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... And there it is.
 
theprestige said:
Bro, I'm referring to your entire body of work here, both short- and long-form.
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Oh... okay I get it.

You think how people interact with you is how happy they are.

Might want to take a few steps back and take in the bigger picture there.

You're... let me be charitable here and say hard to interact with. That doesn't make the people round you unhappy, it just means you aren't generally seeing people at their best.

Does that make things clearer... bro?
 
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acbytesla said:
Certainty is a red herring. I'd argue that it is moronic to use faith ever. Move away from superstition and fairy tales. Embrace reality for a change.
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So do tell us about reality. Can you define it? Because in my philosophy everything we perceive is an illusion. Everything can be reduced to energy.
I know nothing about quantum physics, but I know it makes nonsense of a mundane view of the world.
 
Scorpion said:
So do tell us about reality. Can you define it? Because in my philosophy everything we perceive is an illusion. Everything can be reduced to energy.
I know nothing about quantum physics, but I know it makes nonsense of a mundane view of the world.
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Of sod off with that self-defeating nonsense.

If everything is an illusion stop talking to people who you think are just figments of your imagination.
 
JoeMorgue said:
For Zeus's non-existent butthole's sake not another one.
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Wait...are you suggesting Zeus doesn't exist, or that he does exist but lacks a butthole? I expect a lot of people would say a god shouldn't have a buttholes because defecation is against their divine dignity (like the elves in Tolkien), but I think those people are forgetting that Greek gods really did a whole bunch of sex constantly and being experts and connoisseurs of sex they would most definitely involve buttholes.

I challenge the validity of your bizarre buttholeless pantheon, and am prepared to cite a lot of Greek myths and some specialized Tumblr pages in evidence.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Oh... okay I get it.

You think how people interact with you is how happy they are.

Might want to take a few steps back and take in the bigger picture there.

You're... let me be charitable here and say hard to interact with. That doesn't make the people round you unhappy, it just means you aren't generally seeing people at their best.

Does that make things clearer... bro?
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A crabby bunny gets less hugs, is how Nietzsche would put it. Or my five year old niece. I get them confused.
 
Foster Zygote said:
And you know that they are unhappy, how?
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Ninja magic.

So you can diagnose me as unhappy because I suggested that the thread might be off-topic and should perhaps be moved to another thread of its own? Well at least you had the decency to stop short of accusing me of "harboring a lot of hate".

By the way, I have a loving marriage and two children whom I absolutely adore. The fact that you think that I am unhappy (and by earlier implication, full of hate) simply because I asked you a question and suggested that this conversation may be better moved to a different thread tells me a lot more about you than you think you know about me. You appear to me to be engaging in a great deal of psychological projection.
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And yet here you are.

Are you happy with how this is going? Are you going to look back on the effort you put in here today with a sense of contentment? Are you going to go to bed tonight, think of the time you spent in this thread, and say to yourself, in the words of our own applecorped, "time well spent"?

It sounds like you have a wonderful family. You could be spending time with them. You don't have to be here right now, defending your self-image against outrageous canards from inconsequential strangers.

And yet here you are.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Oh... okay I get it.

You think how people interact with you is how happy they are.

Might want to take a few steps back and take in the bigger picture there.

You're... let me be charitable here and say hard to interact with. That doesn't make the people round you unhappy, it just means you aren't generally seeing people at their best.

Does that make things clearer... bro?
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You interact with a lot of people here besides me. You don't seem particularly happy in any of those interactions.
 
It's rather embarassing to be there when someone accidentally kicks the ball into their own goal, I find.
 
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