Dissension In The Ranks At Truthstock!

[Walter Ego]

This is a video of a Q&A session with Steven Jones, Richard Gage and Dylan Avery at the recent ‘Truthstock’ event in San Diego. It’s a long video but skip to about the 14:00 mark when the guy in the red hoodie steps up to mike and stay tuned for the guy in the black jacket (there’s a girl with a brief question in between).

http://blip.tv/file/828397

(Via: James B. of SLC and 911Blogger.)

 

[DC]

and he did not got tazered

 

[Sizzler]

Why hasn't anyone here gone to one of these truther conventions and ripped into Jones or Gage using your super reasoning skills?

Why don't you expose them as the frauds they are at their event, video tape it and post it here?

Has anyone here done that? And if so, is there a link?

 

[Mobyseven]

Why hasn't anyone here gone to one of these truther conventions and ripped into Jones or Gage using your super reasoning skills?

Why don't you expose them as the frauds they are at their event, video tape it and post it here?

Has anyone here done that? And if so, is there a link?

Most of the people here are too busy with work (remember that?) to go to a wankfest just to tear into a delusional nutball in a hostile environment.

I don't have work, personally. I'm too busy at university, learning about wonderful things like physics and logic, which according to your lot mysteriously didn't apply on 11/9.

 

[Arus808]

well, unless you pay me, why would i spend my afternoon listening to kooks in an environment filled with other kooks who belive the lies of the kooks making the kooky presentation? That's like asking a mouse to attend a convention meant for cats, and having to tell the cats its wrong to chase mice.

 

[timhau]

Yes, why don't you debunkers have the guts to stand up to the Twoof Movement, those brave souls who are risking everything to aggressively pursue the real 9/11 culprits and bring them to justice.

Reading this post is strictly voluntary. Doing so constitutes agreement that the actions referred to by the terms 'to aggressively pursue' and to 'bring to justice' can be successfully completed by making and/or watching YouTube videos.

 

[Tweeter]

Do not alter member names in an attempt to insult them (and it's must have)

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: chillzero

, you must of missed the memo. Debunkers here at Jref are sworn to stopping twoofers wherever they may be. Or are you really only a internet tough guy?

 

[peteweaver]

Anyone who dares heckle da twoof would be immediately kicked out. Just like they do to critical thinkers on their forums.

Twoof vs Pub, pub wins. You get more sense out of John Smiths than you would from Alex Jones.

 

[Jonnyclueless]

Edited by chillzero: 

original post edited

, you must of missed the memo. Debunkers here at Jref are sworn to stopping twoofers wherever they may be. Or are you really only a internet tough guy?

Actually there have been examples of some of these big twoofers being called out and humiliated. Either way, you have been reported.

 

[DC]

Most of the people here are too busy with work (remember that?) to go to a wankfest just to tear into a delusional nutball in a hostile environment.

I don't have work, personally. I'm too busy at university, learning about wonderful things like physics and logic, which according to your lot mysteriously didn't apply on 11/9.

calling ppl liars and frauds on JREF is alot easyer than confronting them

 

[HENTAI DOUKYUSEI JP]

Originally barked by do-over:
"Money, power control ETC, I could go on...."

I think what do-over tried to say was:
" I do it for money, power, control SO I could go on..."
Which is true. he got money , power and control from twoofers all over.
RED, LC,SWING and other twoofers, don't you feel stupid yet?

 

[Jonnyclueless]

calling ppl liars and frauds on JREF is alot easyer than confronting them

Sort of like how calling people conspirators on internet forums is a lot easier than actually taking action? Sort of like how calling for a new investigation is a lot easier than actually going about one? Sort of like how these heros make claims of inside jobs is a lot easier than actually proving it?

Maybe someone should tell Mark that all those times he called these guys out in front of their faces and proved them to be wrong in front of their faces was all just a part of our imagination? Maybe when Les Robertson exposed Gage live on the air it was all imagination? Maybe when Mark caught Alex Jones accusing the firefighters of being behind 9/11 while preaching at ground zero it was all just mass imagination?

 

[8den]

Why yes lining the pockets of idiots is how I personally enjoy spending my free time.

 

[Unsecured Coins]

wooo... I love a good cat fight

 

[timhau]

wooo... I love a good cat fight

Ask, and ye shall receive.

 

[Unsecured Coins]

best. birthday present. ever.

 

[T.A.M.]

calling ppl liars and frauds on JREF is alot easyer than confronting them

Sort of like how calling people conspirators on internet forums is a lot easier than actually taking action? Sort of like how calling for a new investigation is a lot easier than actually going about one? Sort of like how these heros make claims of inside jobs is a lot easier than actually proving it?

Maybe someone should tell Mark that all those times he called these guys out in front of their faces and proved them to be wrong in front of their faces was all just a part of our imagination? Maybe when Les Robertson exposed Gage live on the air it was all imagination? Maybe when Mark caught Alex Jones accusing the firefighters of being behind 9/11 while preaching at ground zero it was all just mass imagination?

Doh! Beat me to it, but well said Jonny.

TAM

 

[ElMondoHummus]

Why hasn't anyone here gone to one of these truther conventions and ripped into Jones or Gage using your super reasoning skills?

Why don't you expose them as the frauds they are at their event, video tape it and post it here?

Has anyone here done that? And if so, is there a link?

At risk of derailment: Why do conspiracy fantasists value grandstanding so much? Why is public confrontation considered productive?

The real answer to the question of why realists don't tend to go out of their way to publicly confront fantasists is because there's a difference between substantive work and narcisstic activity, and disseminating the truth about 9/11 isn't about getting in people's faces and smug sloganeering, it's about assembling rational, logical arguments and pointing out the myriad errors and misrepresentations of the conspiracy peddlers. A video about a confrontational encounter may be personally satisfying, but a written work, such as Gravy's site or Mackey's DRG rebuttal is actually substantive.

In short, we're not trying to please ourselves with our work on 9/11, we're trying to make information available, so there's no real need to gatecrash events in order to accomplish that.

Besides, video exposure as frauds has already happened; see Gravy's handling of truthers on multiple occasions on Ron's Hardfire shows, or the times various realists have confronted conspiracy peddlers at Ground Zero. People who believe in the truth may tend not to go out of their way to confront fantasists, but some have not gone out of their way to avoid it either. Again, the difference is between self gratification and actual truth dissemination, and most people's egos are not so invested in bravado that they must "go slay dragons" on video. It's sufficient to assemble logical, factually accurate works and allow access to the same.

 

[Drudgewire]

Truthstock? TRUTHSTOCK?!!

"There’s a rumor circulating that the brown crayons going around are poison. Cool it. They're not poison— just badly manufactured. But do not eat the brown crayons."

 

[WildCat]

calling ppl liars and frauds on JREF is alot easyer than confronting them

Gage bans anyone from his forum who disagrees with his moronic views. he won't come here either, so there ya go. I sure as hell am not going out of my way to confront the idiot in person. In the great scheme of things, he's a wannabe cult leader with a following numbering in the dozens.