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Disingenuous "Be strong" and prayers

darnell11 said:
Oh, you're saying this is a conspiracy? Okay, then it should be on the conspiracy section. But I don't think so, if you have seen the clip it's pretty clear Simon is talking about Chris's singing and not rolling his eyes about his comments. I don't see how they could have edited it to make it look that way.
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Yeah, yeah, and David Blaine can really rise several feet off the ground.

I don't think it was wrong for Chris to make a comment on the shootings-He was upset about it and wanted to say something, how is that wrong? It wasn't political for him to mention it, in my opinion.
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Do you think anyone who truly was suffering was helped by his words? Just another blah, blah, blah, by a stranger. Anyone he knew he should have spoke with on the phone or through e-mail -- not exploiting them through American Idol.
 
Senex said:
My buddy Moochie is ready to argue with me.


Well, the police don't routinelly kill the mentally ill on the street here -- but we weren't previously a penal colony (no offence).


I always vote, do they shoot you in Australia if you don't vote? That sucks. Most of the people I know are unarmed. I'm not very engaged in my political system, but who are you to say I'm not?

I'm American; I have no master (perhaps a mistress or two). I recognize an inequity when I see it you rascal.


It's hard to compare evil.

I hope wer'e still friends,

Senex
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Of course we're still friends, silly sausage :)

M.
 
Biff Starbuck said:
BTW, the people at Jonestown reportedly drank poisoned Flavor Aid rather than Kool Aid.

And yes, I realize that Kool Aid is a generic term for that type of beverage and also that the standard line is "drank the Kool Aid." I just hate to see Kool Aid Man's reputation wrongly impugned :)
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Why? Kool Aid Man is wicked scary.
 
Biff Starbuck said:
BTW, the people at Jonestown reportedly drank poisoned Flavor Aid rather than Kool Aid.

And yes, I realize that Kool Aid is a generic term for that type of beverage and also that the standard line is "drank the Kool Aid." I just hate to see Kool Aid Man's reputation wrongly impugned :)
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Kool Aid man has much more to explain to his god than Jonestown. Look at the photo -- it's like a cow handing me a steak.

Of course we're still friends, silly sausage
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If I stuck to driinking Kool Aid my sugar content may be up but my embarrassment content would be way down ;)
 
Growing up in Australia, kids' drink of choice was cordial. A certain brand -- Kia Ora, if memory serves -- had most of the market, with Cottee's not far behind.

Although these substances were full of sugar, most kids avoided obesity thanks to the very active lifestyles they enjoyed.

Of course, this was well before television became the centerpiece of most living rooms.

M.
 
Moochie said:
Growing up in Australia, kids' drink of choice was cordial. A certain brand -- Kia Ora, if memory serves -- had most of the market, with Cottee's not far behind.

Although these substances were full of sugar, most kids avoided obesity thanks to the very active lifestyles they enjoyed.

Of course, this was well before television became the centerpiece of most living rooms.

M.
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Dodging angy kangaroos and koalas would keep any child sharp.

Dingos still give me nightmares ;)

I have yet to speak of the Tasmanian Devil.
 
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Senex said:
Dodging angy kangaroos and koalas would keep any child sharp.

Dingos still give me nightmares ;)

I have yet to speak of the Tasmanian Devil.
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And don't even get started on the drop bears.
 
Senex,

American Idol has several cameras filming simultaneously. The next day, Idol showed the entire footage from the camera on Simon during the incident, split screen and timed with the contestant's statement on the stage. It's absolutely clear that Simon was not listening to what was happening on stage and was reacting to his conversation with Paula about the guy purposely using a "nasal" twang in the song.

You can believe it's an edited tape and a huge conspiracy if you'd like, but the evidence doesn't support you.
 
Ipecac said:
Senex,

American Idol has several cameras filming simultaneously. The next day, Idol showed the entire footage from the camera on Simon during the incident, split screen and timed with the contestant's statement on the stage. It's absolutely clear that Simon was not listening to what was happening on stage and was reacting to his conversation with Paula about the guy purposely using a "nasal" twang in the song.

You can believe it's an edited tape and a huge conspiracy if you'd like, but the evidence doesn't support you.
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I would like the people reading this to judge for themselves. This is what I saw... http://www.ifilm.com/video/2845448

Maybe I was wrong (I doubt it, put in "American Idol" and "conspiracy" in Yahoo and you come up with 2 million hits.), but it doesn't make my premise any less believable if I was wrong.

Disingenuous showing of support to a cause you don't care about only wishing to further your own cause is BS.
 
Cuddles said:
And don't even get started on the drop bears.
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Believe it or not, in over 50 years of being steeped in what passes for Australian culture, I had never heard the term "drop bear."

Therefore, I think some Yankee bustard or a bloody Pom must have made it up.

M.
 
Moochie said:
Believe it or not, in over 50 years of being steeped in what passes for Australian culture, I had never heard the term "drop bear."

Therefore, I think some Yankee bustard or a bloody Pom must have made it up.

M.
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I edited the wikipedia entry for length...

A drop bear (or dropbear) is an Australian marsupial said to be related to the koala.

Drop bears are commonly unusually large, vicious, carnivorous koalas that inhabit treetops and attack their prey by dropping onto their heads from above.
The drop bear discourages children from straying needlessly below eucalyptus trees, protecting them from getting hit by a falling branch. Arbitrary detachment of old branches is common with certain species of the eucalyptus, which are known as 'widow-makers' for this very reason. Similar theories are attached to the cone from the bunya tree.

The drop bear appears to have first appeared during the latter half of the 20th century, and may have its origins with Phascolarctos stirtoni, the carnivorous Phascolarctos involus or perhaps Thylacoleo carnifex, which belong to a group of extinct animals known as Australian megafauna. The prehistoric creatures were approximately twice the size of modern koalas. Thylacoleo is thought to have been an arboreal predator that may well have ambushed prey by dropping on it from overhead branches.

It is suggested that doing things like having forks in the hair or Vegemite or toothpaste spread behind the ears will deter the creatures.


You better get out the Vegemite, my friend, and stay away from the eucalyptus :eek:
 
Senex said:
More people die in Darfur, Iraq/other places harder to spell everyday. Why do people in Australia care so much about this occasion?
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Because as far as I'm aware, Australia still holds the record for the largest one-man gun massacre. Not a record we're particularly proud of, but by the same token not one we'd like to see surpassed.

Senex said:
Our constitution is my bible. Granted the part of the second amendment about bearing arms is like the religious people's part about who begat who (not my favorite part), but I don't want the government looking at an eccentric post I made on this site and throwing my ass in confinement. It's not easy to know what is in another's mind. It's easy to point a finger when bad things happened. I'm in favor of more gun control. I'm not in favor of messing with my constitution.
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What exactly makes you think that a group of men who lived a few centuries ago, in a time when it would be quite appropriate and prudent for the citizens to bear arms 'just in case', know what is best for this society that has changed so much over time.

The Constitution is not some divine scripture. It is a legal document that reflects the time it was written in. But the times are changing, and there are systems in place that allow you to make alterations to the Constitution.

The Constitution was never meant to be a static document - hell, that goes against the very idea of democracy. It is certainly very difficult to alter, but the provisions are there for a reason.

I would, if I were you, not treat an antique legal document in the same way as a fundamentalist treats their King James Version...it is, shall we say, somewhat disturbing.
 
Mobyseven said:
Because as far as I'm aware, Australia still holds the record for the largest one-man gun massacre. Not a record we're particularly proud of, but by the same token not one we'd like to see surpassed.



What exactly makes you think that a group of men who lived a few centuries ago, in a time when it would be quite appropriate and prudent for the citizens to bear arms 'just in case', know what is best for this society that has changed so much over time.

The Constitution is not some divine scripture. It is a legal document that reflects the time it was written in. But the times are changing, and there are systems in place that allow you to make alterations to the Constitution.

The Constitution was never meant to be a static document - hell, that goes against the very idea of democracy. It is certainly very difficult to alter, but the provisions are there for a reason.

I would, if I were you, not treat an antique legal document in the same way as a fundamentalist treats their King James Version...it is, shall we say, somewhat disturbing.
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Good post, Moby. Evidently Senex has been trying to beguile me with bogus references to Aussie "culture," but it hasn't worked.

It will take much more than casual references to Vegemite and Koalas to convince me Yanks are better mass murderers than us bronzed ANZACs!

Strewth!

M.
 
Moochie said:
Good post, Moby. Evidently Senex has been trying to beguile me with bogus references to Aussie "culture," but it hasn't worked.

It will take much more than casual references to Vegemite and Koalas to convince me Yanks are better mass murderers than us bronzed ANZACs!

Strewth!

M.
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Crikey, look out behind you Moochie! A highly flammable koala!

;)
 
Senex, Simon didn't even hear what he was saying- he was still bickering over his singing with Paula. It's a misunderstanding, the cameras just cut to him at the wrong time.

Chris has friends there and is from Virginia himself. Don't be so cynical. Well, be cynical, I know I am, but not that cynical.
 
Commenting as an American, I too, am amazed by the inability of my countrymen to imagine anyone living outside the media built walls of the U S of A. After the September 2001 attacks, I seemed to be the only voice reminding my redneck friends that the last time a building in the USA had been targeted by terrorists, the terrorists were lily white military boys.
As to the tragedy at VT, I've heard many people espousing the opinion that more guns on campus would have ameliorated the destruction. I ask anyone who is thinking of presenting a similar viewpoint to answer the question, "how the &#%$ would any of the 'heroes' of your cowboy cult have been able to distinguish between the shooter and other men of tiny penises who happened to be carrying firearms with them that day."
Imagine dozens of gun-slinging heros trying to figure out weather to shoot the dude with the gun in the hallway, or trying to determine if he was friend or foe.
The more guns argument only works if there is only one more gun, and it is controlled retroactively.
 
Senex, No, David Blane is a magician; it's clearly an illusion. Simon Cowell is not a magician, and American Idol has no reason to create illusions on the show. I doubt they care about politics. Really, a stupid comparison. It's good to be skeptic, but you're going a little too far.

You should always leave some room for doubt in your mind, as long as it isn't something that defies the laws of physics or something, because a strong belief in something that is unproven can possibly blind you to the truth.
 
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