Diet coke causes MS?

[I Ratant]

Yes.

Side Effects due to Aspartame in diet coke is commonly indicated. Other side effects might had also been indicated. But as diet coke has low pH, its effect due to its low pH is no where indicated.

Hope it is clear now.

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I changed to aspartame sweetener for my coffee and tea some time ago.
And drank lots of diet cola (not Coke) with aspartame.After awhile, I began to get a pulsation in my right ear at night. It was about 3 times my pulse rate, and would last for hours, until I began to move around in the morning.
When I stopped using aspartame, the symptom went away.
To test it, I have tried varying levels of diet stuff with aspartame with periods of other sweeteners instead, and the pulsation effect returns every time I take in aspartame.

 

[Harpyja]

Nearly spit my drink all over the keyboard on that one!

PS-Can you tell where I can find Sarah Conner?

She owes us all new keyboards for that one.

I feel bad for laughing, sorry Kumar.

 

[Sledge]

My ex-sister-in-law blamed the pigeon poop at her worksite.

She's really only got herself to blame for drinking pigeon poop.

 

[23_Tauri]

After reading this thread I bought and drank a can of Diet Coke for the first time in years today. I quickly remembered why I don't drink it. It just.... tastes.... awful!
(I don't know what pee-pee tastes like but if it was fizzy it probably wouldn't be far off)

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

She's really only got herself to blame for drinking pigeon poop.

She thought she was inhaling it.

 

[technoextreme]

Yes.

Side Effects due to Aspartame in diet coke is commonly indicated. Other side effects might had also been indicated. But as diet coke has low pH, its effect due to its low pH is no where indicated.

Hope it is clear now.

Because the effects should be no different than any other acidic drink. Lemonade, seltzer (Its slightly acidic), and orange juice all tend to behave the same way to me.

 

[brantc]

My daughter has been told at school that diet coke causes multiple sclerosis. Googling has produced only crank opinion pieces - help!

Also she says it's my fault that she is unable to believe all these things that her friends tell her - it's tough having a sceptic dad - sorry Charlotte!

Yuri

Do you think Coke is good for you?

I wouldnt drink it just because its not good for. If thats what it takes so be it.

After seeing this I would never drink anything with aspartame in it. I never did anyway, I hate the way diet tastes artificial.


"Disturbing photos of private aspartame study show 67% of female rats with tumors."
http://writerswithoutborders.net/vib/aspartame/

Aspartame Study: 67% of Female Rats Developed Visible Tumors
By Victoria Inness-Brown, M.A.
“In my opinion, we are the rats of the pharmaceutical and chemical companies that liberally spread their synthetic chemicals worldwide, with no one fully understanding the long-term adverse effects—especially the complex interactions from injecting and intermixing thousands of
toxic chemicals in the plant and animal kingdoms sustaining our planet.”
—Victoria Inness-Brown
http://www.mpwhi.com/aspartame_study_female_rats_developed_visible_tumors.pdf


"My experimental group received aspartame in the form of NutraSweet dissolved in their drinking water – two packets per each eight ounces of water (about 80 mg of aspartame per each eight ounces) – available 24 hours per day.

The male rats received about 34 mg/kg of aspartame per day. (A human male would drink an equivalent of about 13 12-oz. cans or 2.25 two-liter bottles of diet soda per day).

The females received about 45 mg/kg per day. A human female would drink an equivalent of about 14 12 oz. cans or 2.4 two liter bottles of diet soda per day."

 

[I Ratant]

After tossing all the aspartame containing beverages from the house, and looking at the labels on the stuff I've been buying, I have had a couple more of the ear-thumpings.
Looking at the label on the beverages, I didn't asapartame listed directly, so I used those, but now looking more closely I see "Non-nutritive sweeteners added".
I'm gonna interpret that as "aspartame", and toss those also.
Hard to find a cheap diet drink without it! Sob!

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

After tossing all the aspartame containing beverages from the house, and looking at the labels on the stuff I've been buying, I have had a couple more of the ear-thumpings.
Looking at the label on the beverages, I didn't asapartame listed directly, so I used those, but now looking more closely I see "Non-nutritive sweeteners added".
I'm gonna interpret that as "aspartame", and toss those also.
Hard to find a cheap diet drink without it! Sob!

So after all the evidence cited in the thread that debunked the myth aspartame was dangerous, you decided it was dangerous?

 

[JWideman]

Also, the bubblegum found inside baseball card packs contains spider eggs.

 

[I Ratant]

So after all the evidence cited in the thread that debunked the myth aspartame was dangerous, you decided it was dangerous?

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I'd heard of lab results many years ago that aspartame was not what it was being pushed as... and that it was unsafe.
As aspartame was the major change in my daily ingestion schedule..lots of coffee and diet cola, just by circumstance switching back to saccaharine and having the noises go away made me look into the situation more closely.
My personal experience controlling aspartame intake as noted above due to the ear noises tells me to avoid it, unless a more likely suspect makes itself obvious.
I'd had noises before, but these latest were the result of using aspartame exclusively.
Ceasing use, and the noises go away.
It's really a PITE to have that thumping begin in late at night and last the rest of the night, not going away until the late morning.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

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I'd heard of lab results many years ago that aspartame was not what it was being pushed as... and that it was unsafe.
As aspartame was the major change in my daily ingestion schedule..lots of coffee and diet cola, just by circumstance switching back to saccaharine and having the noises go away made me look into the situation more closely.
My personal experience controlling aspartame intake as noted above due to the ear noises tells me to avoid it, unless a more likely suspect makes itself obvious.
I'd had noises before, but these latest were the result of using aspartame exclusively.
Ceasing use, and the noises go away.
It's really a PITE to have that thumping begin in late at night and last the rest of the night, not going away until the late morning.

What ever the noises are you are experiencing, you are just shooting at phantoms in the dark choosing to eliminate something from your diet based on a debunked internet rumor instead of looking for an evidence based target.

 

[I Ratant]

No doubt you're right....... (I crack me up).
Made -A- change in diet.
Experienced undesired consequences.
Reversed the diet change.
Undesired consequences went away, and can summoned back at any time.
Yup.
Must be an Internet rumor.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

No doubt you're right....... (I crack me up).
Made -A- change in diet.
Experienced undesired consequences.
Reversed the diet change.
Undesired consequences went away, and can summoned back at any time.
Yup.
Must be an Internet rumor.

I've heard this kind of testimonial before with various claims. Funny thing is, when you try to replicate the observation, you cannot.

I understand the power to convince when one has what one believes is an irrefutable experience. But then we have the scientific evidence that such personal experiences are not evidence of what the person has concluded.

What do we conclude from this contradictory evidence?

 

[Eos of the Eons]

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I'd heard of lab results many years ago that aspartame was not what it was being pushed as... and that it was unsafe.
As aspartame was the major change in my daily ingestion schedule..lots of coffee and diet cola, just by circumstance switching back to saccaharine and having the noises go away made me look into the situation more closely.
My personal experience controlling aspartame intake as noted above due to the ear noises tells me to avoid it, unless a more likely suspect makes itself obvious.
I'd had noises before, but these latest were the result of using aspartame exclusively.
Ceasing use, and the noises go away.
It's really a PITE to have that thumping begin in late at night and last the rest of the night, not going away until the late morning.

What studies/lab resulsts are those. Linky please.


All the parts that make up aspartame are found in food we eat every day.

Quote:

http://www.eufic.org/page/en/page/FR...wer-aspartame/


Following ingestion, aspartame breaks down in the gut into its three constituent parts: two amino acids - aspartic acid and phenylalanine-, and methanol, which are then absorbed into the blood.
The two amino acids (aspartic acid and phenylalanine) are building blocks of protein and are found naturally in all protein-containing foods, including meats, grains and dairy products. Methanol is also found naturally in many foods such as fruits and vegetables, and their juices and is part of the normal diet.

These components are used in the body in exactly the same ways as when they are also derived, in much greater amounts, from common foods and beverages (e.g. eggs, milk, cheese, meat, fish, fruits and vegetables). For example, a serving of non-fat milk provides about 6 times more phenylalanine and 13 times more aspartic acid than the same amount of beverage sweetened with aspartame; a serving of tomato juice provides about 6 times more methanol than the same amount of aspartame-sweetened beverage. Neither aspartame nor its components accumulates in the body over time.



Aspartame is composed of two amino acids, aspartic acid and phenylalanine, as the methyl ester.

Amino acids are the building blocks of protein. Aspartic acid and phenylalanine are ... found naturally in protein containing foods, including meats, grains and dairy products.

Methyl esters are also found naturally in many foods such as fruits and vegetable and their juices.

Upon digestion, aspartame breaks down into three components (aspartic acid, phenylalanine and methanol), which are then absorbed into the blood and used in normal body processes.

None are present in toxic doses in diet pop, and only people with PKU should avoid it since they can't break down protein properly. Those people know who they are and to avoid protein/phenylalanine and aspartame. They don't get MS from eating it though.

 

[skyhand]

I have MS and have only tried diet drinks 1 or 2 times, because I don't like the taste. Those couple of times and a few times when I had a mouth full before I realized I had the wrong drink are it. Maybe there is some homeopathic like action going on here for me. I held on to a couple of molecules that upset my vital force.

 

[I Ratant]

What studies/lab resulsts are those. Linky please.


All the parts that make up aspartame are found in food we eat every day.


None are present in toxic doses in diet pop, and only people with PKU should avoid it since they can't break down protein properly. Those people know who they are and to avoid protein/phenylalanine and aspartame. They don't get MS from eating it though.

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I test me.
I respond to aspartame in quantities, or the lack thereof.
YMMV.
I could care less.

 

[Eos of the Eons]

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I test me.
I respond to aspartame in quantities, or the lack thereof.
YMMV.
I could care less.

I see that you don't care. You should stop eating food, period, if you are that sensitive.

These components are used in the body in exactly the same ways as when they are also derived, in much greater amounts, from common foods and beverages (e.g. eggs, milk, cheese, meat, fish, fruits and vegetables).

For example, a serving of non-fat milk provides about 6 times more phenylalanine and 13 times more aspartic acid than the same amount of beverage sweetened with aspartame; a serving of tomato juice provides about 6 times more methanol than the same amount of aspartame-sweetened beverage.

 

[I Ratant]

One can say that arsenic and cyanide are naturally occurring compounds also.
The components of those in other combinations aren't inimical.
Therefore arsenic and cyanide are, by your criteria, safe.
I have found that aspartame bothers me.
For some reason, this bothers you.
I guess I'm supposed to ignore the symptoms that I have found aspartame generates in me, because the ingredients are naturally occurring compounds.
But aspartame combines those ingredients in a manner that to my body is identical to the way arsenic and cyanide combine their naturally occurring components.
I'll not try any of them.
I respect my ability to discern what bothers me.
I don't need to go to the doctor to complain that "When I do this, I get hurt", to have him tell me "Well, don't do that".
Couple more innocuous comestibles that bother me.
M&Ms. The hard candy shell. Contains something that causes a irritation in my rectum.
By not eating M&Ms, I don't get that irritation. Silly of me of course to connect the eating and non-eating of the candy to the presence or lack thereof of the itch.
Lawry's Seasoning Salt. Used a lot of it on my chicken in the evening. Similar rectal awareness as with the M&Ms.
Stopped the use of it, and the awareness went away.
Silly of me of course to connect cause and effect that way.
But it works for me.
Don't care what works or not for you.

 

[Eos of the Eons]

One can say that arsenic and cyanide are naturally occurring compounds also.
The components of those in other combinations aren't inimical.
Therefore arsenic and cyanide are, by your criteria, safe.
I have found that aspartame bothers me.
For some reason, this bothers you.
I guess I'm supposed to ignore the symptoms that I have found aspartame generates in me, because the ingredients are naturally occurring compounds.
But aspartame combines those ingredients in a manner that to my body is identical to the way arsenic and cyanide combine their naturally occurring components.
I'll not try any of them.
I respect my ability to discern what bothers me.
I don't need to go to the doctor to complain that "When I do this, I get hurt", to have him tell me "Well, don't do that".
Couple more innocuous comestibles that bother me.
M&Ms. The hard candy shell. Contains something that causes a irritation in my rectum.
By not eating M&Ms, I don't get that irritation. Silly of me of course to connect the eating and non-eating of the candy to the presence or lack thereof of the itch.
Lawry's Seasoning Salt. Used a lot of it on my chicken in the evening. Similar rectal awareness as with the M&Ms.
Stopped the use of it, and the awareness went away.
Silly of me of course to connect cause and effect that way.
But it works for me.
Don't care what works or not for you.

No, what you don't get is that you eat aspartame every day, you have the ingredients in you EVERY day in higher doses than you would get from drinking any can of pop with aspartame. Do you not get that?

If aspartame bothers you, then so should MOST FOOD.

Rectal awareness??? bWAHAAAA!!!

Aspartame is in no way comparable to arsenic or cyanide. Aspartame is AMINO ACIDS, the same you get in fruits, vegetables, and any protein matter.