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Did Jon-Benet Ramsay's brother kill her?

Someone who stalked the pageants?
Only viable solution.

Maybe. Maybe not.

But it does remind me of something a friend of mine told me years ago. She'd gone to a jeweler at a shopping mall to get her grandmother's wedding ring resized so she could wear it. As she was there a child beauty pageant was going on in the concourse. The sight of all the little girls in heavy makeup and frilly dresses was creepy enough, but she was literally nauseated by all the lone adult men intently watching from the edge of the audience.
 
OK then. The father is trying to get DNA tested using more modern methods. The local police refuse to co-operate. He has appealed to the State to force them to release it

A DNA sample that allows a complete profile for genetic genealogy is about the only thing that could solve this case.

The perpetrator probably died long before it became routine to collect CODIS profiles from convicts.
 
A DNA sample that allows a complete profile for genetic genealogy is about the only thing that could solve this case.

The perpetrator probably died long before it became routine to collect CODIS profiles from convicts.

If you watch the show, you'll see that's what's being proposed. Th expert that does such matching claims a very thigh success rate.
 
Maybe. Maybe not.

But it does remind me of something a friend of mine told me years ago. She'd gone to a jeweler at a shopping mall to get her grandmother's wedding ring resized so she could wear it. As she was there a child beauty pageant was going on in the concourse. The sight of all the little girls in heavy makeup and frilly dresses was creepy enough, but she was literally nauseated by all the lone adult men intently watching from the edge of the audience.
Ok.
So someone not aware of this child being paraded did this crime?
You and I find this vanishingly unlikely because statistical clustering is unreliable.
Thank you for pointing out how this child came to be murdered.
 
Ok.
So someone not aware of this child being paraded did this crime?
You and I find this vanishingly unlikely because statistical clustering is unreliable.
Thank you for pointing out how this child came to be murdered.

How did you get any of the above from what I wrote?
 
Another 60 Minutes Australia piece on the case. This time about the fact that the evidence is finally being turned over to an FBI cold case team. I was glad to learn that the Boulder Police chief had "retired or demoted" the detectives involved in the original investigation before opening the case to outside investigation. The fact that the investigators ignored the DNA evidence clearing the family and the other incident that took place nine months later just a few kilometers away - the sexual assault of another girl who knew JonBenét and had appeared in some of the same shows she did - is just shockingly incompetent.

 
confirmation bias

Mr. Ramsey was quoted: "There's nothing more dangerous than a police department that's made up its mind, because they are totally excluding anything that conflicts with that conclusion," he noted.

Every newly minted police detective needs to hear this.
 
Another 60 Minutes Australia piece on the case. This time about the fact that the evidence is finally being turned over to an FBI cold case team. I was glad to learn that the Boulder Police chief had "retired or demoted" the detectives involved in the original investigation before opening the case to outside investigation. The fact that the investigators ignored the DNA evidence clearing the family and the other incident that took place nine months later just a few kilometers away - the sexual assault of another girl who knew JonBenét and had appeared in some of the same shows she did - is just shockingly incompetent.


News article here:
JonBenét Ramsey's Killer Could Finally Be Revealed 27 Years After Young Girl Was Strangled to Death in Her Basement

Maybe it's not too late for a definitive answer?
 
The vagaries of memory

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Interesting article. I recall a paramedic claim that when she looked across the body at John Ramsey, she knew he did it, and he knew she busted him.

Sad.

I remember hearing that claim from her. I also remember that John responded to it by saying that she had treated him well on the day that JonBenet's body was discovered (I don't have a citation handy). This could be after-the-fact re-remembering on the part of the paramedic.

At the risk of belaboring the obvious, the whole house should have been cleared of people the moment that it became obvious that she was missing. That her father found her body should never have happened.
 
If that is her claim then I have to wonder when she started reading minds.

Yeah, it sounds to me like an ex post facto judgement in response to the "it was the father" bandwagon - a seized opportunity to say "I knew it all along!".

But even if she did immediately assume his guilt, so what? What does one person's inexpert opinion matter?
 
Yeah, it sounds to me like an ex post facto judgement in response to the "it was the father" bandwagon - a seized opportunity to say "I knew it all along!".

But even if she did immediately assume his guilt, so what? What does one person's inexpert opinion matter?

Yes. Even called to give testimony concerning the child's death, I'm sure her mind reading ability would not be a part. Wouldn't it be considered 'hearsay'?
 
fingernail and underwear DNA

"The DNA found matched the sample found under her fingernails. The DNA did not match anyone in the Ramsey family." HubPages. I am not sure that the statement about matching is true, but if it is, it is significant.
 
"The DNA found matched the sample found under her fingernails. The DNA did not match anyone in the Ramsey family." HubPages. I am not sure that the statement about matching is true, but if it is, it is significant.

There are lots of other details in this article that I have never heard before. Though, most of what I know has come from the various TV documentaries.
 
DNA from the panties; hair

In 1999 a reporter for the Denver Post wrote, "But the most powerful evidence pointing to a killer outside the Ramsey family was a stain of body fluid inside the dead girl's panties. The stain carried DNA that police can't link to anyone...Much supposed evidence in the murder has been leaked by anonymous sources; there's no independent way to verify if the leaked information is true, or subject to different interpretations, until the case goes to trial...Other evidence pointing toward some outside intruder includes an unidentified pubic hair found on the blanket wrapping JonBene�t's body; a Hi-Tec hiking-boot print discovered near the body that hasn't been matched to any family or friends; a broken window in the basement where JonBene�t's body was found; and an unidentified palm print on a door by the girl's body."

The relationship between a stain and a DNA sample is never "implicit," to use Professor Peter Gill's words. Other article have said that this DNA was sub-source. If this DNA did in fact arise from a stain, then its evidentiary value is greater. I do not know whether the hair mentioned above was tested for DNA or not. At Reddit, it was argued that it was not a pubic hair and that DNA testing was done. The article makes a good point about most of the information as of 1999 having come from leaks.

"There are no do-overs in crime scene processing. “You only get one chance to do it right,” says Joseph Giacalone, a professor in the Department of Law & Police Science at John Jay College of Criminal Justice. Giacalone, a former New York police sergeant who has worked on hundreds of murder, suicide and missing-person cases, says that securing a crime scene and properly collecting and storing evidence is crucial for prosecuting a court case." link.
 
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Joe Berlinger, who did a documentary on the West Memphis Three, made a documentary that rebuts the case against the Ramsey family. The Hollywood Reporter interviewed him: "Most specifically, I had access to all of Lou Smit’s [files]...I think the Boulder Police acted quite shamefully in feeding false and misleading information to the press."

ScreenRant discussed the documentary, writing, "DNA on her clothes matched DNA that was found beneath her fingernails, but it was not matched with any known individual." This is not the first time I have seen this claim, but if it is true, it is very significant IMO. ScreenRant also wrote, "An intruder was attempting to assault a sleeping child in her home, but was caught by the mother who chased him out. The suspect was never caught, but officials thought that he had broken into the house while they were out and waited for them to go to sleep." Yikes.
 
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