Did Epstein run a World Satanic Ring?

[Vixen]

The only way Epstein could have been killed would have been at his own request - which I find a very plausible scenario: if I was that rich and my death seemed like the only escape, I wouldn't want to do it myself, I would like to leave it to a professional.

According to his suicide buddy in the remand wing, Epstein spent long, long hours with his lawyer - up to seven hours a day. Two days before he died he drew up a new will effectively putting all of his funds into various trusts. As you know, trusts are ring-fenced from one's other assets. Now it could be said this was the equivalent of a man giving notice of his impending demise or it could simply be he knew he was facing a long jail term so knew it was wise to get his affairs in order so that the multiple litigants making a claim on his estate as crime victims would have serious difficulty getting their hands on it.

Yes, it could be plausible an Operation Suicide came into effect once NY took the matters out of lenient Florida's hands. However, as a likely sociopath, prison was never going to bother him much (they tend to settle into prison life with ease compared to others) especially as plea bargaining by top attorneys might not make his future look too bleak (after all, he is not being charged with murder).

OTOH if it was an intelligence-services backed sex-ring then Operation Murder might also have been triggered and enacted.

 

[carlitos]

Amoral
Highly promiscuous
No conscience
No remorse
Sought instant gratification
Manipulative - others are just there to be used
Topped himself with a sheet

I wouldn't be surprised if he was top end Hare's Diagnostics.

Tenuous connection
Relevance of atheism?
Obvious post-facto logic
Lazy formulation
Largely speculative
Is he still in the Mossad?
No satanism?
God, this thread is embarrassing.

 

[BStrong]

Tenuous connection
Relevance of atheism?
Obvious post-facto logic
Lazy formulation
Largely speculative
Is he still in the Mossad?
No satanism?
God, this thread is embarrassing.

For someone who has opinions but -0- knowledge of the subject matter embarrassment or shame isn't in the equation.

 

[LondonJohn]

For someone who has opinions but -0- knowledge of the subject matter embarrassment or shame isn't in the equation.

Well I don't know about you, but I for one am now thoroughly convinced - entirely owing to the forensic research, the ruthless commitment to accuracy, the mastery of the topic and the closely-reasoned arguments of the OP - that Epstein was in fact murdered by shadowy forces. And that Epstein did indeed run a World Satanic Ring. And that Epstein was a puppet of the Mossad. And that the British royal family are alien lizard beings. And that the US Government planned and executed the 9/11 attacks.

The way of truth has been revealed to me. And for that, I have no shame or embarrassment

 

[bruto]

I hate to mention it here but I think they've gotten to London John.

 

[Vixen]

Tenuous connection
Relevance of atheism?
Obvious post-facto logic
Lazy formulation
Largely speculative
Is he still in the Mossad?
No satanism?
God, this thread is embarrassing.

See at 12:28 - 12:40.

'He had no conscience' - victim.

 

[Vixen]

Well I don't know about you, but I for one am now thoroughly convinced - entirely owing to the forensic research, the ruthless commitment to accuracy, the mastery of the topic and the closely-reasoned arguments of the OP - that Epstein was in fact murdered by shadowy forces. And that Epstein did indeed run a World Satanic Ring. And that Epstein was a puppet of the Mossad. And that the British royal family are alien lizard beings. And that the US Government planned and executed the 9/11 attacks.

The way of truth has been revealed to me. And for that, I have no shame or embarrassment

I don't know where to begin to start with the logical fallacies, which seem to run along the lines of 'if you believe Epstein ran a teenage sex ring' then you also believe the moon is made of cheese.

You are obviously blissfully ignorant.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

I don't know where to begin to start with the logical fallacies, which seem to run along the lines of 'if you believe Epstein ran a teenage sex ring' then you also believe the moon is made of cheese.

You are obviously blissfully ignorant.

Oh. Is this the thread about whether or not Epstein ran a teenage sex ring?

 

[EHocking]

Tenuous connection
Relevance of atheism?
Obvious post-facto logic
Lazy formulation
Largely speculative
Is he still in the Mossad?
No satanism?
God, this thread is embarrassing.

You scoff, But has anyone seen a body?

huh?

huh?

Hes a rich, connected satanist Illuminati attached to Mossad and you lot just accept that he’s dead, based merely on MM fake news.

Even Bigfoot sceptics in other threads demand to see a body.

 

[LondonJohn]

You scoff, But has anyone seen a body?

huh?

huh?

Hes a rich, connected satanist Illuminati attached to Mossad and you lot just accept that he’s dead, based merely on MM fake news.

Even Bigfoot sceptics in other threads demand to see a body.

See?! SEE?! The Mossad actually faked the fake-suicide murder of Epstein! And in reality they spirited Epstein out to a safe house in Hoboken NJ, then into an El Al freight container at JFK Airport for transportation back to Tel Aviv, just in time for the Channukah celebrations and a hefty debriefing.

 

[Axxman300]

Massive coincidence then that just days beforehand Epstein was moved to a cell by himself (when he was a known would-be suicide), the prison staff were preoccupied with surfing the net and having a nap and are now taking the rap and the head guy suspended. That the wannabe suicide facing many years in prison is supplied with easily rippable sheets and somewhere to hook it in order to top himself.

The very same prison staff that this phantom would have had to interact with multiple times in order to reach and escape from Epstein's cell.

All sheets are rippable with time and effort.

Now imagine Epstein was a Mossad/CIA stooge (just an agent being used and funded by them), then he is immediately expendable once his cover is blown.

And yet somehow neither agency knew about the impending arrest in New York in advance in order to keep him overseas...like an actual asset...

Spies have a licence to kill with impunity

In movies, not in real life. And spies are not assassins. Mossad and the FSB are examples of intelligence agencies who have in-house assassins. These men and women are not spies.

so as soon as the prison staff are seen to be (or are observed to have been over a long period) failing to do their proper rounds throughout the night, secret intelligence services would easily have access to him.

Define easy access.

If this sounds far-fetched, then you should be aware the CIA was involved in the Finders cult, which also involved sexual abuse of minors.

When you say "far fetched" if you mean BS because the CIA was not involved in the "Finders Cult".

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...t-zero-for-epstein-and-pizzagate-conspiracies

The FBI files are all here:

https://vault.fbi.gov/the-finders

A couple of men seen with six dishevelled young children, who were dirty, had no underwear and all of them appeared to be living in a van with a dirty mattress and reported to the police, were identified as Finders members. The punchline? The travel documents of one of them showed he had travelled to (amongst other far off places) North Vietnam, which only intelligence service members were given travel documentation access to. This information has recently come out of classified and into the public domain.

A few factual problems with this statement:

1. In 1987 there was no "North Vietnam", just "Vietnam (you get to name the country when you win your civil war).

2. Americans were and are welcome to visit Vietnam. In 1988 acquaintance of mine who served during that war spent a week there. I don't think their big on known CIA officers visiting their country without a good reason though.

3. You have obviously not read the declassified documents (spoiler alert: no international pedo-ring).

There is also a link to Sara Bronfman who is awaiting tough sentencing for her role in the sex-trafficking ring NXIVM. Her father, Edward (multibillionaire of the Seagram empire - who became rich flogging alcohol from Canada during the US prohibition years - was a close friend of alleged Mossad agent, Robert Maxwell, the father of Epstein's sex-procurer, Ghislaine Maxwell, and has a ranch within six miles of Epstein's New Mexico Zorro ranch, both set in a semi-arrid desert literally isolated for many many miles around.

Has nothing to do with Satan. Your obsession with Mossad to the exclusion of other foreign intelligence services is telling.

Then there is the link to the family massacred in Mexico recently via LaBarron and a school for exceptional children to which NXIVM supplied pupils and procured sex slaves from by claiming to offer jobs as nannies and in-house carers for young women wanting to escape poverty and being shackled in various dodgy Finders-type communes.

Nothing to do with Satan. Everything to do with Mexican drug cartels and that three-ring circus nobody in the US wants to talk about,

This is a massive teenage-sex-ring conspiracy. NXIVM certainly was satanic (or quasi-satanic) with its latinised names (DOS), rules, rituals, sex slavery and brandings by fire.

Nope, just a cult. A simple one at that.

 

[Axxman300]

Sanctioned hits are carried out frequently in US prisons, this is no secret. Pay the right prison gang and your target ends up on a slab. No spies, no international rings, just organized criminal empires that function on both sides of a prison wall.

If there was to be a hit on Epstein it would have happened after he was convicted.

Whitey Bulger is a prime example of a high profile prisoner murdered in prison.

None of this has anything to do with Satan either, but unlike the fairy tale we're getting Bulger is documented from beginning to end.

 

[Vixen]

The very same prison staff that this phantom would have had to interact with multiple times in order to reach and escape from Epstein's cell.

All sheets are rippable with time and effort.



And yet somehow neither agency knew about the impending arrest in New York in advance in order to keep him overseas...like an actual asset...



In movies, not in real life. And spies are not assassins. Mossad and the FSB are examples of intelligence agencies who have in-house assassins. These men and women are not spies.



Define easy access.



When you say "far fetched" if you mean BS because the CIA was not involved in the "Finders Cult".

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...t-zero-for-epstein-and-pizzagate-conspiracies

The FBI files are all here:

https://vault.fbi.gov/the-finders




A few factual problems with this statement:

1. In 1987 there was no "North Vietnam", just "Vietnam (you get to name the country when you win your civil war).

2. Americans were and are welcome to visit Vietnam. In 1988 acquaintance of mine who served during that war spent a week there. I don't think their big on known CIA officers visiting their country without a good reason though.

3. You have obviously not read the declassified documents (spoiler alert: no international pedo-ring).




Has nothing to do with Satan. Your obsession with Mossad to the exclusion of other foreign intelligence services is telling.



Nothing to do with Satan. Everything to do with Mexican drug cartels and that three-ring circus nobody in the US wants to talk about,



Nope, just a cult. A simple one at that.

What about Epstein (a US citizen) being in the possession of an Austrian passport and giving a Saudi Arabian address as his residence? All of this smacks of undercover agent.

 

[carlitos]

Er, you did know that Epstein was in the possession of a fake Saudi Arabian passport...did you not?

Nothing. Your question was to do with evidence he was a spy. I answered he was in possession of a fake passport. A Saudi Arabian one.

Now why would Epstein, a one-time maths teacher from blue-collar Brooklyn, dad a gardener, be in possession of a fake passport (some say several) and a seemingly endless pot of wealth?
.....

What about Epstein (a US citizen) being in the possession of an Austrian passport and giving a Saudi Arabian address as his residence? All of this smacks of undercover agent.

The prosecutors said the expired passport was issued in the 1980s and indicated that Epstein was living in Saudi Arabia.

...

In the court papers filed Tuesday, Epstein’s lawyers said the travel document came from Austria and had expired 32 years ago.
"The government offers nothing to suggest — and certainly no evidence — that Epstein ever used it," his lawyers said. "In any case, Epstein — an affluent member of the Jewish faith — acquired the passport in the 1980s, when hijackings were prevalent, in connection to Middle East travel."

Possibilities:

• Jewish guy wanted to go to saudi etc. without a hassle
• Child molester bought fake passport on black market to do his creepy stuff
• Sooper-sekrit Mossad agent kept his document for 32 years after it expired as a souvenir of his James Bond lifestyle

 

[Vixen]

Sanctioned hits are carried out frequently in US prisons, this is no secret. Pay the right prison gang and your target ends up on a slab. No spies, no international rings, just organized criminal empires that function on both sides of a prison wall.

If there was to be a hit on Epstein it would have happened after he was convicted.

Whitey Bulger is a prime example of a high profile prisoner murdered in prison.

None of this has anything to do with Satan either, but unlike the fairy tale we're getting Bulger is documented from beginning to end.

When is the last time you ripped sheets with your bare hands, bearing in mind most have a hem that would make it difficult.

It is a not infrequent occurrence for one prisoner to run into the cell of another with a shank (sharpened piece of metal) and cut their throat or plunge it into their neck.

This is more sophisticated. The plan would have been to make it look like a suicide. I don't know how security works in this NY institution but I'm guessing it is electronic rather than old-fashioned chains of keys, perhaps a swipe card, rather like those found in hotels.

So, said agent, perhaps posing as a guard, swipes card into the door, or because he is not captured on cctv, might have snuck in during an earlier inspection. Alternatively during Epstein's seven-hour sessions with his lawyer, hatched up an 'escape plan', which is why the unsuspecting Epstein didn't protest the presence of a hidden third party in his cell.

Next morning, Epstein's body was immediately whisked away. Why? It should have been left in place for the forensics guys.

Three neck bones were fractured suggesting unusually high pressure to the neck. In hanging, the neck often breaks but that is because of the sudden release of the trapdoor on the gallows, not something Epstein had, unless he had a chair and kicked it away.

 

[BStrong]

Dual citizenship is far from mysterious or rare.

I hold Italian and American citizenship and passports.

When I travel I use my Italian passport.

 

[abaddon]

When is the last time you ripped sheets with your bare hands, bearing in mind most have a hem that would make it difficult.

It is a not infrequent occurrence for one prisoner to run into the cell of another with a shank (sharpened piece of metal) and cut their throat or plunge it into their neck.

Sure, "shanks" (or more correctly shivs) are commonly fashioned in prisons. They can be use for cutting throats. Or sheets.

This is more sophisticated. The plan would have been to make it look like a suicide. I don't know how security works in this NY institution but I'm guessing it is electronic rather than old-fashioned chains of keys, perhaps a swipe card, rather like those found in hotels.

So, said agent, perhaps posing as a guard, swipes card into the door, or because he is not captured on cctv, might have snuck in during an earlier inspection. Alternatively during Epstein's seven-hour sessions with his lawyer, hatched up an 'escape plan', which is why the unsuspecting Epstein didn't protest the presence of a hidden third party in his cell.

What a strange imagination you have. I suppose you have evidence for this madcap scheme, right?

Next morning, Epstein's body was immediately whisked away. Why? It should have been left in place for the forensics guys.

Not normal practice in suicide cases, is it? What are you thinking? They should have left the hanging body undisturbed? That notion is a whole other level of idiotic.

Three neck bones were fractured suggesting unusually high pressure to the neck. In hanging, the neck often breaks but that is because of the sudden release of the trapdoor on the gallows, not something Epstein had, unless he had a chair and kicked it away.

When exactly did you earn your degree in forensic pathology?

 

[BStrong]

Snipped with respect.

When exactly did you earn your degree in forensic pathology?

I'm betting the MCU.

 

[Craig4]

See at 12:28 - 12:40.

'He had no conscience' - victim.

That's nice. Does she mention anything about Satan?

 

[Mycroft]

Next morning, Epstein's body was immediately whisked away. Why? It should have been left in place for the forensics guys.

Because leaving dead people hanging around is bad for prisoner morale?