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Did Epstein run a World Satanic Ring?

Vixen said:
It's not the entrance if it is barred, is it?
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It may not have been a terribly well designed satanic temple. I mean, I've been looking at the imagined design you posted and while it's very thorough about providing sufficient pedo rape dungeons and occult meeting areas, I can't help thinking billionaires, even satanic rapist ones, would probably want stuff like a restaurant, a bar, bedrooms, gym, pool, jacuzzi, squash courts, cinema etc. You'd need a substantial kitchen area for your henchmen chefs too.

Where does that secret underground tram go, by the way?

The secret underwater submarine dock is very James Bond but when witnesses describe teenagers being ushered from Epstein's plane to Epstein's helicopter to travel to Epstein's island, at what location did they transfer to his top secret submarine fleet so nobody knew where they were going?
 
Vixen said:
Sorry, are you claiming satanism is made up?

Aleister Crowley one of the most notorious satanists of all time worshipped the Ancient Egyptian god, Thoth.
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I think you're just completely ignorant of what "satan" is. But then, just a short while ago you said that satan is only found in the abrahamic religions. You keep contradicting yourself.

Vixen said:
Why is it so hard to accept that Epstein ran a clandestine occult racket
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BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE.

You're making up crazy theories based on essentially nothing. As usual.

These Egyptian occultists have a belief that the further you go underground the nearer you are to these sinister 'gods'.
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Add Egyptian mythology to the number of things you know nothing about.

Seeing is believing.
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Only for the fool. The wise pit their sight against reality to see if they really saw what they thought they saw.
 
Was Aleister Crowley a satanist? From Wikipedia:

Both during his life and after it, Crowley has been widely described as a Satanist, usually by detractors. Crowley stated he did not consider himself a Satanist, nor did he worship Satan, as he did not accept the Christian world view in which Satan was believed to exist.[255] He nevertheless used Satanic imagery, for instance by describing himself as "the Beast 666" and referring to the Whore of Babylon in his work, while in later life he sent "Antichristmas cards" to his friends.[256] In his writings, Crowley occasionally identified Aiwass as Satan and designated him as "Our Lord God the Devil" at one occasion.
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Did he advocate child sacrifice?

He was also accused of advocating human sacrifice, largely because of a passage in Book 4 in which he stated that "A male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most satisfactory victim" and added that he had sacrificed about 150 every year.
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two prominent figures in religious Satanism, Anton LaVey and Michael Aquino, were influenced by Crowley's work
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Vixen said:
In the common vernacular occult is no different from satanism.
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And there we go. Finally, an admission that "satanist" doesn't really mean "satanist". Why don't you use the actual word for what you're describing? They were pagans. Believers in something other than Christianity.

Plenty of those in the world, don't you agree? Would you call Buddhists satanists? Medieval Christians sure would.

As I explained upthread 'Satan' in the Bible was usually referred to as Ba'al, a clear reference to ancient Egyptian gods.
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A clear refence? Baal's not even Egyptian!
 
Vixen said:
You might have noticed I don't do logical fallacy.
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I'm sorry to break this to you, Vixen...

Vixen said:
Er, you did know that Epstein was in the possession of a fake Saudi Arabian passport...did you not?
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And what does this have to do with satanism?

You're all over the place but if you think you're going to lose me in the flurry of nonsense you're throwing at me, you've got another thing coming.

Vixen said:
Here you go. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry_in_Italy
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Not a single mention of satanists in this article.

Oh, did you think I wouldn't notice that you dodged that part?
 
Belz... said:
And there we go. Finally, an admission that "satanist" doesn't really mean "satanist". Why don't you use the actual word for what you're describing? They were pagans. Believers in something other than Christianity.

Plenty of those in the world, don't you agree? Would you call Buddhists satanists? Medieval Christians sure would.



A clear refence? Baal's not even Egyptian!
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But they worshipped idols in the form of a bull did they not?
 
Belz... said:
I'm sorry to break this to you, Vixen...



And what does this have to do with satanism?

You're all over the place but if you think you're going to lose me in the flurry of nonsense you're throwing at me, you've got another thing coming.



Not a single mention of satanists in this article.

Oh, did you think I wouldn't notice that you dodged that part?
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Nothing. Your question was to do with evidence he was a spy. I answered he was in possession of a fake passport. A Saudi Arabian one.


Now why would Epstein, a one-time maths teacher from blue-collar Brooklyn, dad a gardener, be in possession of a fake passport (some say several) and a seemingly endless pot of wealth?

A mysterious foreign passport found inside a safe in Jeffrey Epstein's Manhattan mansion had been used to travel to at least four countries in the 1980s, prosecutors said on Wednesday in court documents seen by Business Insider.

They said the expired Austrian passport was found in the locked safe along with more than $70,000 in cash and several loose diamonds.

They said that the passport appeared to have a photo of Epstein but a different name and listed a residence in Saudi Arabia.

Epstein's lawyers said in court papers on Tuesday that the passport was for "personal protection" and that prosecutors had offered no evidence that Epstein ever used it.

But on Wednesday, prosecutors said stamps in the passport suggested it was used to enter France, Spain, the United Kingdom, and Saudi Arabia in the 1980s.




https://www.businessinsider.com/jef...stria-foreign-passport-1980s-2019-7?r=US&IR=T
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It's the prosecutors saying it, not me.
 
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I understand that Jonathan Swift was an advocate of eating children.
 
Vixen said:
Jonathan Swift was a satirist.
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And I suppose Crowley was being deadly serious when he made that comment, which is widely believed to be a reference to him masturbating.
 
Also I recall Crowley incorporated Jewish mysticism and Taoism in his work, but you wouldn't call those Satanic.
 
You can't have read much Crowley if you don't think there is a deep satirical vein in his writing.
 
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