Did Bush watch plane hit the first tower ?

[CurtC]

How does a degree in philosophy qualify you to make any technical complaint about the NIST's investigation?

It allows him to see that in the NIST report, a predominant concept is the distinction between without and within. Thus, a number of desublimations concerning subcultural structuralist theory may be discovered. The main theme of the report is the dialectic, and thus the failure, of posttextual art.

“Class is responsible for capitalism,” says Baudrillard; however, according to Scuglia, it is not so much class that is responsible for capitalism, but rather the fatal flaw, and eventually the rubicon, of class. In a sense, in The Ground Beneath Her Feet, Rushdie affirms cultural feminism; in The Moor’s Last Sigh he examines subcultural structuralist theory. Von Ludwig holds that we have to choose between Derridaist reading and textual discourse.

Thus, the subject is contextualised into a postmodern paradigm of expression that includes consciousness as a totality. Non-Believer suggests the use of subcultural structuralist theory to deconstruct society.

 

[Horatius]

Non-Believer suggests the use of subcultural structuralist theory to deconstruct society.

Is that the same as "They blew up the building"?



Now I remember why we hated art-fag guys.

 

[JonnyFive]

Is that the same as "They blew up the building"?

At the sake of sounding like a genius... yes.

 

[gumboot]

While I am at it. If we were aware the buildings were likely to collapse after explosions and fire, why did we not communicate this information to the fire department pre 9-11. It would seem logical (there I go) that after the 93 bombing the fire department would be in on evaluations of the integrity of the building?

I would imagine the FDNY were well aware that buildings can collapse in fires. That would probably explain why the FDNY ordered an evacuation of WTC1 a short time after they arrived, due to questionable structural integrity.

That probably also explains the laws concerning fire-proofing on steel in buildings.

-Gumboot

 

[gumboot]

There are just too many jokes abouts Arts degrees, usually with punchlines about toilet paper or "can I have chips with that, please".

Hey now, to be fair Arts degrees are all well and good. The problem is the people doing them...

A lot of people doing Arts degrees frankly do them because they don't know what to do. Here in NZ the standard choice is the BA - Bachelor of Arts or "Bugger All".

But that's not to say an Arts degree is worthless. It would be really stupid for me, for example, to have done a BSc.

-Gumboot

 

[Non Believer]

Oh I knew deconstructionisim would set you guys loose. Did you ever see the old stark trek with Harry mud and an enclave of androids, where Spock gives them a version of Godel with " everything I say is a lie (pause) Now I am lying. This sends the linked android community into a frenzy from which they never recover. Clearly your freudian based shortcomings require most of you to have stable state Newtonian universes. You can adnit that relativity happens, but not where you live.

Mr Wolfshade you showed some of my favorite stuff there. Where do you guys present any of it? No observable phenomenon and no testable hypothesis get you off to a bad start in this area. But I know my standards are too high because I am asking for as much as one piece of a testable hypothesis. Instead we simply insert expert testimony in its place

 

[stateofgrace]

Oh I knew deconstructionisim would set you guys loose. Did you ever see the old stark trek with Harry mud and an enclave of androids, where Spock gives them a version of Godel with " everything I say is a lie (pause) Now I am lying. This sends the linked android community into a frenzy from which they never recover. Clearly your freudian based shortcomings require most of you to have stable state Newtonian universes. You can adnit that relativity happens, but not where you live.

Mr Wolfshade you showed some of my favorite stuff there. Where do you guys present any of it? No observable phenomenon and no testable hypothesis get you off to a bad start in this area. But I know my standards are too high because I am asking for as much as one piece of a testable hypothesis. Instead we simply insert expert testimony in its place

Translation...............

I really don't care what anybody says because I am super intelligent and mundane things such as facts, evidence, science and other boring things like that don't mean much to me, cos I am so clever.
The fact that I have not got a Scooby what I am talking about is beside the point.

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

<snip>
Mr Wolfshade you showed some of my favorite stuff there. Where do you guys present any of it?
<snip>

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

 

[Horatius]

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

I think he meant "Hitler on Ice". Probably not "Jews in Space".

 

[R.Mackey]

Oh I knew deconstructionisim would set you guys loose. Did you ever see the old stark trek with Harry mud and an enclave of androids, where Spock gives them a version of Godel with " everything I say is a lie (pause) Now I am lying. This sends the linked android community into a frenzy from which they never recover. Clearly your freudian based shortcomings require most of you to have stable state Newtonian universes. You can adnit that relativity happens, but not where you live.

Hey Philosophy boy:

Despite what you may have learned from television, just because you are familiar with ST:TOS, that doesn't mean you are an engineer.

Anytime you feel safe making an actual argument, you go right ahead. Take your time.

 

[Dog Town]

But I know my standards are too high because I am asking for as much as one piece of a testable hypothesis.

If I was into a silly Ct sig, this would make the list!
Classic, Gabby Johnson frontier gibberish...

 

[CHF]

Your entire "complaint" seems to be "I don't believe it and no one wants to waste their time dumbing it down for me."

Bingo. These kooks think they're the smartest people around. So if they don't understand something, well then it surely MUST be a conspiracy.

How did these people survive Grade 3?

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

I think he meant "Hitler on Ice". Probably not "Jews in Space".

What, my implied comparison to Comicus?

 

[Architect]

I think that Non Believer just admitted that he couldn't actually respond to the points made to him.

LOSER!

 

[JonnyFive]

Where do you guys present any of it? No observable phenomenon and no testable hypothesis get you off to a bad start in this area. But I know my standards are too high because I am asking for as much as one piece of a testable hypothesis. Instead we simply insert expert testimony in its place

How about you stop trying to... whatever exactly you're trying to do, and tell us:

1) What you think happened, in precise detail.

2) What evidence you have to support this explanation over the explanation presented in the NIST reports, among others.

Thank you, come again.

 

[aggle-rithm]

Oh I knew deconstructionisim would set you guys loose. Did you ever see the old stark trek with Harry mud and an enclave of androids, where Spock gives them a version of Godel with " everything I say is a lie (pause) Now I am lying. This sends the linked android community into a frenzy from which they never recover.

So, an advanced alien race created highly sophisticated androids but forgot to include the most basic error-handling routines. What's your point?

 

[Horatius]

What, my implied comparison to Comicus?

"Implied"?

 

[CurtC]

If I was into a silly Ct sig, this would make the list!
Classic, Gabby Johnson frontier gibberish...

I'm glad the children were here today to hear that speech. Not only was it authentic frontier gibberish, but it expressed a courage that is little seen in this day and age.

 

[Non Believer]

Architect if you think there are questions that relate directly to the questuon at hand please priortize them in such a manner. I am not interested in explaining my personal background, or the the format of the state and college systems here in CA (you can have that much). I was taught to examine the nature and facts presented on their own merits first,, and the background of the person making the arguments quite a ways down the road from tere.. But for you folks the roles are reversed. Heck, I would be lucky if you ever hears my arguments.

I think we are close to wrapping this up ( though I will post a final recapitulation in response to Arch's from a couple of days ago, but I do want to go into one of the points made yesterday. That being the idea that everyone was in agreement that any large explosions or fires would bring down the towers. First off show some proof. Some pre 9-11 statements, something in fire department policy, something from the port authority. Anything? Oh, let me guess, it was so commonly understood that no one felt the need to say anything about it. Maybe it was kept quiet so the terrorists woulddn't get wind of it. Man it must have been a lot closer than we were told in the 93 attack.


So I am not sure if you have looked at the thread on whether or not the towers were built to withstand airliners crashing into the building, but if so why did Demartini's and Skillings statements go unchallenged? If it was common knowledge that the buildings would come down, why were theses statements (in 93, and 2000) allowed to stand ?

 

[Pardalis]

Non believer, do you find the NIST analysis of the collapse initiation sequence to be comprehensive?