Split From Dick Oliver thread

[Profanz]

Name one time that an occupied skyscraper was rigged for demolition without anybody noticing then destroyed without those present noticing it was a controlled demolition.

Come on, troll. It just doesn't happen and never will. Never mind three times in one day. You are not a skeptic. It is really that simple.

You don't even want to get into this game. Every single aspect of the OCT relies on first time in history bull. Every single part. You are not a skeptic.

 

[332nd]

Come on debunkers. It just doesn't happen. Never did before and never will again.

Why not?

 

[JimBenArm]

You don't even want to get into this game. Every single aspect of the OCT relies on first time in history bull. Every single part. You are not a skeptic.

Every single part? Really? Nothing in the official report ever happened before in the history of ever?

Wow. I'm glad I didn't get into semantics with you. You might have rolled over in bed on top of me!

 

[beachnut]

Why don't you tell me what type of explosive NIST based its figures on.

There was no thermite, so what type of explosive did your delusional view of 911? Got any evidence after 8 years of failed ideas and some years of being obsessed with Gravy?

8 years.

 

[332nd]

You don't even want to get into this game. Every single aspect of the OCT relies on first time in history bull. Every single part. You are not a skeptic.

Because history has proven that the only way people have flown in the past is in lighter than air craft.

Why should I be skeptical about powered flight?

Because history has proven that no building that has been built in the past is taller that 102 stories.

Why should I be skeptical about the Empire State Building being built?

Because history has proven that the Red Sox haven't won a World Series since they sold Ruth to the Yankees in the past, besides we're up 3 games to 0.

Why should I be skeptical about the Red Sox winning the 2004 World Series?

 

[dtugg]

You don't even want to get into this game. Every single aspect of the OCT relies on first time in history bull. Every single part. You are not a skeptic.

You don't even want to get into this game. Every single part of the 9/11 twoof fantasies relies on first time in history bull, pseudoscience, and outright lies. Every single part. You are not a skeptic.

 

[Garb]

Because history has proven that the only way steel structured high rises have completely collapsed in the past is because of explosives. And we're not just talking about collapsing. We're talking about disintegrated. I mean if you want to be honest about it.

It's a good thing the twin towers didn't disintegrate then, isn't it?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pic...-Trade-Center-is-to-be-used-in-memorials.html

 

[alienentity]

You don't even want to get into this game. Every single aspect of the OCT relies on first time in history bull. Every single part. You are not a skeptic.

I call your bluff. We do want in on this game.

Try to find us an example of a demolition which was carried out without people in the offices noticing - not just a rumor, but where you have proof (photos, work logs, other documentation) that teams of demolitions people actually sneeked in past security systems, cut holes in drywall, attached det cord, etc..

We need positive proof to show that it is plausible.

Also, while you're at it, try to explain, in a rational, factual way, how explosives could be surreptitiously moved into buildings which were patrolled by bomb-sniffing dogs, including dogs which were trained to detect thermite. Yes, thermite is one of the compounds they were able to sniff out.

Then, find us a real-world example of such a case when explosives in quantities of several tons were actually brought in this way.

You have no factual basis for the claim that there was even one incendiary bomb or one cutter charge anywhere in the WTC complex on 9/11. None.
It is a completely empty claim, proposed by people who don't care that it's empty. Nothing backed by tons more nothing, books, DVD's, lectures and websites which further add to the vast nothingness.

You can multiply your zero by infinity, but you will still have nothing. That's how bad it is for you. I'm not exaggerating in the slightest.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Never in history has a skyscraper the size of WTC7 or larger been demolished using explosives. And yet truthers would have us believe that it happened not once, not twice, but... three times on 9/11!!!

I mean... come on!!!

(Exclamation marks added to enhance the incredulity factor...)

 

[Dave Rogers]

Because history has proven that the only way steel structured high rises have completely collapsed in the past is because of explosives.

Even if that were true, how many of them would you like to pretend were demolished by silent explosives?

Dave

 

[NutCracker]

Come on debunkers. It just doesn't happen. Never did before and never will again. Never mind for two different reasons. You are not skeptics. It really is that simple.

In order to solve the puzzle of how on earth the WTC towers collapsed where other skycrapers have kept themselves erected it seems appropiate to look into the particular circumstances surrounding their destruction. Now, them being hit by screaming wide body jets comes to mind as a relevant condition. Them being steel structures in light of the fires is another circumstance that comes to mind.

But our dear twoofy friend continues to be puzzled and amazed. Even advances his puzzlement as the towers' demise being some intrinsically unsolvable puzzle, unless one invokes the evil involvement of shadowy behind the scenes figures.


I've seen enough of his brand of insanity. On ignore he goes!

 

[dafydd]

I call your bluff. We do want in on this game.

Try to find us an example of a demolition which was carried out without people in the offices noticing - not just a rumor, but where you have proof (photos, work logs, other documentation) that teams of demolitions people actually sneeked in past security systems, cut holes in drywall, attached det cord, etc..

We need positive proof to show that it is plausible.

Also, while you're at it, try to explain, in a rational, factual way, how explosives could be surreptitiously moved into buildings which were patrolled by bomb-sniffing dogs, including dogs which were trained to detect thermite. Yes, thermite is one of the compounds they were able to sniff out.

Then, find us a real-world example of such a case when explosives in quantities of several tons were actually brought in this way.

You have no factual basis for the claim that there was even one incendiary bomb or one cutter charge anywhere in the WTC complex on 9/11. None.
It is a completely empty claim, proposed by people who don't care that it's empty. Nothing backed by tons more nothing, books, DVD's, lectures and websites which further add to the vast nothingness.

You can multiply your zero by infinity, but you will still have nothing. That's how bad it is for you. I'm not exaggerating in the slightest.

I will go for the MDC and predict that you will not get a detailed,coherent reply from Profanz.

 

[Travis]

Congratulations Profanz. You have stumbled upon the mind blowing fact that, historically, buildings having jetliners crash into them and huge unfought fires don't happen too often. You get a slow, muted clap as your reward.

 

[tsig]

He's got a great blues album out.

Have you done any recordings? I'd love to hear them. I bet they aren't the same thing over and over again, are they?

Actually they consist of one discordant note played over and over and over and over.

 

[triforcharity]

Look up controlled demolition. Or look up the Murrah building. Then go look up some fires. There's your proof. Get over it.

Oh my, the epic FAIL that is your post!!

The Murrah P. Federal Building was a CONCRETE structure.

Try again!!

 

[triforcharity]

Profanz,

While I am sure this will be a hard concept for you, try reading this paper.

http://www.lafire.com/famous_fires/880504_1stInterstateFire/FEMA-TecReport/FEMA-report.htm

Specifically, this part.

8. Fire-resistive structures can maintain structural integrity if built w e l l .

The structural integrity of the building was a concern during and after the fire. Analysis revealed that no significant damage occurred to major structural elements. Part of this credit must go to the unusually good application of fire resisting materials on support members. The effects of this magnitude of fire on a less protected structure must be considered in plans review, inspections during construction, and developing codes


Why would they be worried about the structural integrity of the building if fire couldn't harm the steel structure?? Gee.....by golly.....I wonder why....

ETA: Here is some additional reading.
http://www.interfire.org/res_file/pdf/Tr-022.pdf

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source...=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=ca6b5a4f84435186

Second link.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

Steel structured high-rises do not completely fall down because of fire. That's it. If someone is going to claim this ridiculous assertion they need to back it up a little better than what's been offered up thus far. It doesn't happen. That's it.

well WTC1, 2 and 7 did, as did most of the Windsor Tower in Madrid....in fact I think all the Steel structured high-rises that have suffered uncontrolled fires have in fact fallen down.

better still name one case where an damaged Steel structured high-rise with an uncontrolled fire stayed up?

 

[sheeplesnshills]

Never in history has a skyscraper the size of WTC7 or larger been demolished using explosives. And yet truthers would have us believe that it happened not once, not twice, but... three times on 9/11!!!

I mean... come on!!!

(Exclamation marks added to enhance the incredulity factor...)

And a reinforced concrete building in Arlington blown up to look exactly as would if it had been hit by a 757 AND a field in PA again blown up and again scattered with body parts and wreckage exactly as it would have been in another 757 crash.........without a single plane involved!
What are the odds of all these things happening on the same day?

 

[dafydd]

Congratulations Profanz. You have stumbled upon the mind blowing fact that, historically, buildings having jetliners crash into them and huge unfought fires don't happen too often. You get a slow, muted clap as your reward.

It's been eight years,truthers are a bit slow on the uptake.

 

[WildCat]

Come on debunkers. It just doesn't happen. Never did before and never will again. Never mind for two different reasons. You are not skeptics. It really is that simple.

Then off you go to alert the media of this shocking discovery!

Buh-bye!