DHS Preparing For Civil War In The US?

[LSSBB]

You tell me? Maybe this is why the FDA is saying vaccines are safe, to disable our young men. Autistic men won't be a security issue.

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[Clayton Moore]

Strange the government is so open with its purchase of all this ammo for evil purposes. Wouldn't a real evil government have done this all much more secretly?

Not really. They engineered/enabled the accumulation of 84% of America's wealth by 20% of Americans right under our noses.

http://prof77.wordpress.com/2013/03/02/15-owns-84-of-all-us-wealth/

 

[ComfySlippers]

Strange the government is so open with its purchase of all this ammo for evil purposes. Wouldn't a real evil government have done this all much more secretly?

That's the trouble with secret evil governments, they always forget to be secret

Anyhow, why didn't the evil Government buy the bullet factory instead?

 

[Alferd_Packer]

Here is a follow up to Sen Coburn's request to the DHS

http://www.gsnmagazine.com/node/28830?c=federal_agencies_legislative

That pretty much kills that CT

Not that it will ever truly die.

 

[jaydeehess]

There were no Chinese communists massing at the border and Germany never made any move at all to take over S.America and move through Central America towards the USA.

,,,,,,, and now that is has been explained that DHS is not buying an unusual amount of ammo, that this is handgun ammo (not particularily useful in any 'war'), that it is of a caliber that would not fit any US military weapon (a group known to have the ability to fight 'wars'), that DHS is NOT buying tanks (a 'tank' is an armoured vehicle but not all armoured vehicles are 'tanks'),,,,,,, do you agree that the paranioa of the OP is misplaced?

Here is a follow up to Sen Coburn's request to the DHS

http://www.gsnmagazine.com/node/28830?c=federal_agencies_legislative

That pretty much kills that CT

Not that it will ever truly die.

That does settle it , right MaGZ?

 

[Horatius]

Here is a follow up to Sen Coburn's request to the DHS

http://www.gsnmagazine.com/node/28830?c=federal_agencies_legislative

That pretty much kills that CT

Not that it will ever truly die.

That does settle it , right MaGZ?

Well, let's see, is that the exact same report that Clayton has already dismissed out of hand?

Be honest, how many of you said "Yes" before you even clicked the link?

 

[Alferd_Packer]

That's just babble.

Prove it.

Produce some bone fide documents that support your position.


Oh, that's right. You can't

 

[jaydeehess]

Well, let's see, is that the exact same report that Clayton has already dismissed out of hand?

Be honest, how many of you said "Yes" before you even clicked the link?

I knew I had read the report and I knew Clayton was still reiterating the same debunked carp so the natural assumption was that CM had either ignored or dismissed it

 

[jaydeehess]

Question for MaGZ:
now that is has been explained that DHS is not buying an unusual amount of ammo, that this is handgun ammo (not particularily useful in any 'war'), that it is of a caliber that would not fit any US military weapon (a group known to have the ability to fight 'wars'), that DHS is NOT buying tanks (a 'tank' is an armoured vehicle but not all armoured vehicles are 'tanks'),,,,,,, do you agree that the paranioa of the OP is misplaced?

 

[Alferd_Packer]

LOL

JD, you crack me up.

Don't you know that the DHS is run by the Mossad?

 

[jaydeehess]

LOL

JD, you crack me up.

Don't you know that the DHS is run by the Mossad?

nuh-uh, and its obvious.

If Mossad ran that organization it would be the SHDII (Security of the Homeland Department It Is

 

[Clayton Moore]

Originally Posted by Alferd_Packer
LOL

JD, you crack me up.

Don't you know that the DHS is run by the Mossad?

nuh-uh, and its obvious.

If Mossad ran that organization it would be the SHDII (Security of the Homeland Department It Is

"Many a true word is spoken in jest"
Former Secretaries of Homeland Security

Michael Chertoff, February 15, 2005 – January 21, 2009

Tom Ridge, January 24, 2003 – February 1, 2005
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chertoff

Chertoff was born on November 28, 1953 in Elizabeth, New Jersey. His father is Rabbi Gershon Baruch Chertoff (1915–96), a Talmud scholar and the former leader of the Congregation B'nai Israel in Elizabeth. His mother is Livia Chertoff (née Eisen), an Israeli citizen and the first flight attendant for El Al.[3] His paternal grandparents are Rabbi Paul Chertoff[4] and Esther Barish Chertoff.[5]

He is an Israeli dual citizen. Section 401 (e) of the 1940 Nationality Act provides that a U.S. citizen, whether by birth or naturalization, "shall lose his [U.S.] nationality by...voting in a political election in a foreign state." The U.S., in its special relationship with Israel, has become very sympathetic to allowing Israeli-Americans to retain two nationalities and allowing U.S. citizens not only to hold public office in Israel, but to hold US government positions as well. No other country holds this special exception of citizenship.

Body Scanners

Michael Chertoff has been an advocate of enhanced technologies, such as full body scanners.[22] His consulting firm Chertoff Group (founded 2009) represents manufacturers of the scanners. [23] [24]

 

[Horatius]

Originally Posted by Alferd_Packer
LOL

JD, you crack me up.

Don't you know that the DHS is run by the Mossad?





"Many a true word is spoken in jest"
Former Secretaries of Homeland Security

Michael Chertoff, February 15, 2005 – January 21, 2009

Tom Ridge, January 24, 2003 – February 1, 2005
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chertoff

He is an Israeli dual citizen. Section 401 (e) of the 1940 Nationality Act provides that a U.S. citizen, whether by birth or naturalization, "shall lose his [U.S.] nationality by...voting in a political election in a foreign state." The U.S., in its special relationship with Israel, has become very sympathetic to allowing Israeli-Americans to retain two nationalities and allowing U.S. citizens not only to hold public office in Israel, but to hold US government positions as well. No other country holds this special exception of citizenship.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afroyim_v._Rusk

Afroyim v. Rusk, 387 U.S. 253 (1967), is a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court ruled that citizens of the United States may not be deprived of their citizenship involuntarily.[1][2] The U.S. government had attempted to revoke the citizenship of Beys Afroyim, a Polish-born man who had voted in an Israeli election after having become a naturalized U.S. citizen, but the Supreme Court decided that Afroyim's right to retain his citizenship was guaranteed by the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution. In so doing, the Court overruled one of its own precedents, Perez v. Brownell (1958), in which it had upheld loss of citizenship under similar circumstances less than a decade earlier.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afroyim_v._Rusk#Subsequent_developments

The concept of dual citizenship, which previously had been strongly opposed by the U.S. government, has become more accepted in the years since Afroyim.[3] In 1980, the administration of President Jimmy Carter concluded that the Bancroft Treaties—a series of bilateral agreements, formulated between 1868 and 1937, which provided for automatic loss of citizenship upon foreign naturalization of a U.S. citizen—were no longer enforceable, due in part to Afroyim, and gave notice terminating these treaties.[85] In 1990, the State Department adopted new guidelines for evaluating potential loss-of-citizenship cases,[86] under which the government now assumes in almost all situations that Americans do not in fact intend to give up their citizenship unless they explicitly indicate to U.S. officials that this is their intention.[87] As explained by Peter J. Spiro, "In the long run, Afroyim's vision of an absolute right to retain citizenship has been largely, if quietly, vindicated. As a matter of practice, it is now virtually impossible to lose American citizenship without formally and expressly renouncing it."[4]

Lying Nazis are Lying, not that there's any great surprise there.

 

[A'isha]

Lying Nazis are Lying, not that there's any great surprise there.

Not to mention that the anti-semitic garbage in that wiki article was added only last month.

 

[jaydeehess]

a quick google search for canadian and american dual cotizenship revealed that, according to several lawyers on both sides of the border that you only lose American citizenship if you specifically renounce it and that dual citizenship is definately allowed.

Not that Clayton proved his claim that Chertoff was Mossad, nor did he say anything about Ridge. and never even mentions Napolitano. Instead, in typical Nazi lover fashion, he took a connection to Judaism and extrapolated that to employment by Mossad , solely and exclusively because such a leap of reasoning leads to confirmation of a prejudged conclusion.

Getting back to this thread we have had definitive explanation of the ammo purchase and many have pointed out the erroneous claims and leaps of reasoning in the paranoid ramblings.
Clayton never tires of being wrong it seems.

 

[MaGZ]

Question for MaGZ:
now that is has been explained that DHS is not buying an unusual amount of ammo, that this is handgun ammo (not particularily useful in any 'war'), that it is of a caliber that would not fit any US military weapon (a group known to have the ability to fight 'wars'), that DHS is NOT buying tanks (a 'tank' is an armoured vehicle but not all armoured vehicles are 'tanks'),,,,,,, do you agree that the paranioa of the OP is misplaced?

I previously started a thread there was nothing to the claim about the tank buying.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=254582