DHS Preparing For Civil War In The US?

[BazBear]

Not to defend him, however he could have been prior enlisted. Not sure without seeing a bio.

Here are two resumes, details are a bit sketchy

http://combatsoldier.wordpress.com/about/
http://jresume.com/CPTHestilow

Amazing that he claims to have seen combat in Vietnam and Afghanistan; US troops left the former 28 1/2 years before arriving in the latter.

His resume smells legit to me. It says he was prior enlisted, and went to infantry OBC in '83. Apparently he also had a 9 year break in service from 3/93 to 5/02. So it's not a surprise to me he retired an O-3.

Of course, his letter to Senator Cornyn is still full of alarmist woo.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

BTW, I think I tracked down the source of the 1.6 billion round claim.

I found this blog post by Anthony Edward Borelli back last August

FOX News, while characterizing concerned Americans as 'conspiracy theorists,' neglected to address their core concern, namely, 750 million rounds of ammunition requested by DHS last week, just months after DHS ordered a previously unthinkable 450 million rounds to supply and train their roughly 20,000 agents.

That is 1.2 billion rounds so far this year, for a single domestic law enforcement agency with just 20,000 agents."

http://www.thirdreport.com/third-report.asp?storyid=1469

Note that the bid request he is talking about is only for 70 million rounds over five years.

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportu...8adb7fe40b7489fbbf5b86eaa0e&tab=core&_cview=1

Read the last amendment to the bid request.

And BTW, it's still a bid request, and it has not been awarded. I haven't looked into whether the time limit for the award has expired or not.

 

[LSSBB]

Here are two resumes, details are a bit sketchy

http://combatsoldier.wordpress.com/about/
http://jresume.com/CPTHestilow

Amazing that he claims to have seen combat in Vietnam and Afghanistan; US troops left the former 28 1/2 years before arriving in the latter.

About 7 years back I met a Vietnam Medal of Honor recepient at Great Lakes, an O-3 mustang still on active duty.

 

[Elizabeth I]

His resume smells legit to me. It says he was prior enlisted, and went to infantry OBC in '83. Apparently he also had a 9 year break in service from 3/93 to 5/02. So it's not a surprise to me he retired an O-3.

Of course, his letter to Senator Cornyn is still full of alarmist woo.

...and you would think a captain in the U.S. Army who has seen combat would understand the concept of firing practice.

 

[UnrepentantSinner]

His resume smells legit to me. It says he was prior enlisted, and went to infantry OBC in '83. Apparently he also had a 9 year break in service from 3/93 to 5/02. So it's not a surprise to me he retired an O-3.

Of course, his letter to Senator Cornyn is still full of alarmist woo.

Overall his resume reads as legit to me as well. From his Facebook page:

US Army, Infantry, Military Police, and Civil Affairs. Retired from an Army Career with service divided in both Active and Reserve components.
Combat Service: Republic of Vietnam and Islamic Republic of Afghanistan.
Unit Assignments:
560th MP Company, 18th MP Brigade (Vietnam).
258th MP Company, 5th Army, Fort Polk, Louisiana.
315th MP Platoon, Fort Worth, Texas.
Headquarters, 95th Division, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
1st Bn 5th Cav, 1st Cavalry Division, Ft. Hood, Texas.
2nd Bn 7th Cav, 1st Cavalry Division, Ft. Hood, Texas.
3rd Bn 377th Infantry, 95th Div., Durant, Oklahoma.
1st Bn 8th Infantry, 4th Inf. Div., Ft. Carson, Colorado.
Headquarters, 95th Div., Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
M-ATC, 5th Inf. Div., Fort Polk, Louisiana.
Break in service 12 March 1993-22 May 2002.
812th Air Ambulance Company, New Orleans, LA.
1st Bn 244 Aviation, LANG, New Orleans, LA.
1192nd USA Trans Terminal Brigade, New Orleans, LA.
1st Bn 378th Inf., 95th Div, Lafayette, Louisiana.
82nd Airborne Division, Provincial Reconstruction Team, Farah, Afghanistan, CJTF-82, CENTCOM.
Retired: November 17, 2008.​

I posted this respons to my FB page and got precisely one response - a like from Orphia Nay.
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There's a paranoid screed posted to Facebook by a Capt. Terry Hestilow based on a letter to Sen. John Cornyn. The basic premise is that DHS's recent purchase of "3000" MRAPs and 1.6bn bullets is part of a scheme by the President to impose ...martial law. The problem with this conspiracy theory is that it's based on a lie (the MRAPs) and a ignorant distortion (the ammo).
https://www.facebook.com/notes/terr...ies-preparation-for-war-aga/10151339181433869
The MRAPs are being purchased by the Dept. of the Navy for use by the Marines. DHS does use 16 for high risk warrents, but dozens of jurisdictions across the country use armored vehicles for such a purpose.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/art..._Obama_DHS_Purchases_2700_Light-Armored_Tanks
The 1.6bn bullets are for training and use the myriad components of the DHS (Border Patrol, ICE, TSA, the Coast Guard, Secret Service and the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center). The total number is an attempt to buy in bulk and represent the maximum, not what they will buy. Further ~320m bullets is 1/2 of what the peacetime DOD used in 2000 and many less than the 1.8bn it purchased in 2005.
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05687.pdf

 

[LSSBB]

...and you would think a captain in the U.S. Army who has seen combat would understand the concept of firing practice.

Good point. You think at one point in his career he'd have been exposed to ammo admin and had a concept of the quantities involved also. Beans and bullets...

 

[Lenbrazil]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth I
...and you would think a captain in the U.S. Army who has seen combat would understand the concept of firing practice.

Good point. You think at one point in his career he'd have been exposed to ammo admin and had a concept of the quantities involved also. Beans and bullets...

Especially one who worked in civilian (as well as military) law enforcement.

"Military Police"
"Former deputy sheriff: St. Tammany Parish Sheriff’s Office, Louisiana"

 

[Horatius]

for a single domestic law enforcement agency with just 20,000 agents

http://www.thirdreport.com/third-report.asp?storyid=1469

Note that the bid request he is talking about is only for 70 million rounds over five years.

And also note, his number of 20 000 agents is less than 1/6 the number that other sources have cited.

 

[Clayton Moore]

HR 748: Require All Young Americans to Enlist in a National Service Program

HR 748: Require All Young Americans to Enlist in a National Service Program
http://worldtruth.tv/hr-748-require-all-young-americans-to-enlist-in-a-national-service-program/

This initiative employs citizen battalions of government trained Americans, ages 18 – 24, to serve with the federal government in a new generation of emergency managers.

In 2009, President Obama said that: “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”

Intimating that the internal affairs of the US necessitate a civilian army because America’s security was threatened from within harkens to dictators of the past that created their own youth groups of trained citizens that were brainwashed into believing that continuity of government supersede basic adherence to fundamental human rights, i.e. Hitler’s Youth Group.

So now you know who and what the ammo is for.

 

[Clayton Moore]

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.748:

TITLE II--AMENDMENTS TO MILITARY SELECTIVE SERVICE ACT

Sec. 201. Registration of females.

Sec. 202. Registration and induction authority.

 

[Clayton Moore]

Well, yeah, there is that!

Exactly what or who is the DHS going to overthrow, Clayton?

In 2009, President Obama said that: “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”

You tell me? Maybe this is why the FDA is saying vaccines are safe, to disable our young men. Autistic men won't be a security issue.

 

[jimfish]

HR 748: Require All Young Americans to Enlist in a National Service Program
http://worldtruth.tv/hr-748-require-all-young-americans-to-enlist-in-a-national-service-program/

So now you know who and what the ammo is for.

H.R. 748.

1% chance of getting past committee.
0% chance of being enacted.

Only 11% of House bills made it past committee and only 3% were enacted in 2011–2013.

It's simply a re-introduction of a bill that already died several times before. The last was H.R. 1152. The one before that, H.R. 5741., the one before that H.R. 393, before that H.R. 4752, before that, H.R. 163....and so it goes and so it goes.

The guy who introduces it, Charles Rangel, has been trying endlessly for years. It always dies a painful, lonely death.




As for the "national security force", it's best to include Obama's preceeding sentence for context.

"And we're going to grow our foreign service. Open consulates that have been shuttered. And double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to re-new our diplomacy. We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

He's talking about increasing the Peace Corps; something that's existed since 1961. His meaning is the opposite of what you think he means. Diplomacy, rather than armed, military action.

 

[Travis]

Strange the government is so open with its purchase of all this ammo for evil purposes. Wouldn't a real evil government have done this all much more secretly?

 

[Clayton Moore]

H.R. 748.



It's simply a re-introduction of a bill that already died several times before. The last was H.R. 1152. The one before that, H.R. 5741., the one before that H.R. 393, before that H.R. 4752, before that, H.R. 163....and so it goes and so it goes.

The guy who introduces it, Charles Rangel, has been trying endlessly for years. It always dies a painful, lonely death.




As for the "national security force", it's best to include Obama's preceeding sentence for context.



He's talking about increasing the Peace Corps; something that's existed since 1961. His meaning is the opposite of what you think he means. Diplomacy, rather than armed, military action.

civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded

You must be right. 2 military sized budgets? Ouch.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

So, Clayton, do you think that the DJS is going to purchase 1.6 billion rounds of ammo?

Can you provide links to the bid requests, contracts, purchase orders, etc. that back this claim up?

 

[A'isha]

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:h.r.748:

What on Earth does a proposed bill to expand the registration for the draft to women too instead of just men have to do with the nonsense conspiracy theory about the DHS that you're spouting, Clayton?

You tell me? Maybe this is why the FDA is saying vaccines are safe, to disable our young men.

No, the FDA is saying vaccines are safe because vaccines are safe.

Autistic men won't be a security issue.

You don't know a single thing about autism, do you?

 

[jaydeehess]

What on Earth does a proposed bill to expand the registration for the draft to women too instead of just men have to do with the nonsense conspiracy theory about the DHS that you're spouting, Clayton?

It has nothing to do with it but Clayton sees a shadow and feels threatened.

No, the FDA is saying vaccines are safe because vaccines are safe.

oh, yeah,,, there is that, of course.

You don't know a single thing about autism, do you?

The autistic are all so easy to take care of in internment camps...............

 

[jhunter1163]

Please stay on topic, which is the DHS, not autism, vaccination or (especially) each other. Thank you for your anticipated cooperation.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: jhunter1163

 

[Elizabeth I]

Strange the government is so open with its purchase of all this ammo for evil purposes. Wouldn't a real evil government have done this all much more secretly?

That's what They Would Like You to Think.

 

[beachnut]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LuP7_zKZVFE
Published on Apr 7, 2012



Anyone know why Homeland Security and the ICEO ordered all this ammo?

For practice and use. It is called a contract to deliver ammo. The source, Russia Today? Failed news source, only fools the gullible.

DHS is out gunned by citizens who buy 10 billion to 12 billion bullets every year. DHS lost who has the most bullets.

Time to make closing statements.

Here are two resumes, details are a bit sketchy

http://combatsoldier.wordpress.com/about/
http://jresume.com/CPTHestilow

Amazing that he claims to have seen combat in Vietnam and Afghanistan; US troops left the former 28 1/2 years before arriving in the latter.

An anti-Obama bigot, spewing nonsenses.
http://www.infowars.com/retired-arm...ld-threat-of-war-against-the-american-people/ inforwars, consistently stupid.
He sounds like Tim McVeigh. A nut case who quote-mines his way to woo due to hate. How can someone be so stupid.