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Hanna was convicted of tax evasion thanks to your "help".



Too bad the link to the "Hanna Affidavit" is broken. Anyone have a copy?
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Our subject doesn’t seem to understand that the legal precedent set in the Clifford Hanna case is applicable to any detaxer who would be foolish enough to use his method.

He either doesn’t now or refuses to accept the nature of legal precedent.

Upon in court pole-axing's like Keith Thompson is about to get our boy’s method has been to deny reality until his rep gets so bad that it starts to hurt the flow of detaxer honoraria into his pocket book.

When the zero tax vein plays out our pseudo-scholar will surf the net for new material, cobble another theory together and start the game all over again.
 
Several rule-breaching posts along with several posts that replied to them. Keep it civil and on-topic, folks. And remember rule 8. "You may only post a Member's personal information if it is both publicly available and is relevant to the ongoing discussion." That includes "don't post e-mail addresses."
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Isn't your argument just another logical fallacy, Eldon?

Your ruse is to tell us that parts of the definition of, or the obscure usages of, one word match parts or usages of another word.. . .then you tell us that the words have the exact same meaning and usage when in fact they don't.

By juggling definitions like a bad mechanic trying to make mismatched parts fit you mix and match the meanings of the words monsters, humans, natural persons in the hope you will lead us to the conclusion that so called “free willed men” aren’t subject to the rule of law.

As we have demonstrated on this forum no matter what sort of man one calls himself one is, in fact, subject to the rule of law.

Need I go over the countless times detaxers following your methods have been hauled into court and convicted of crimes?

It may sooth the ego to make believe that one is some sort of special person who is above the law. But my experience has been that this fantasy held by so many, sovereign citizens, free men on the land, free willed men (or whatever they are calling themselves today) is nothing more than a self-deluding attempt to rise above a society in which they simply can’t function.

If one can’t cut the mustard in the gentle, prosperous world of western Canada, I have to wonder where in the world one thinks he could get the job done.

Very well! And, I suppose there are moose beings, dog beings, cat beings?

What purpose does the word 'being' serve making 'human' an adjective, instead of the fully self explanatory noun that the word 'human' is?

Here is a more detailed exposition of 'Human Being: Quote:

From Ballentine's Law Dictionary, 1948 Edition. 'Human Being' is defined as follows: 'See monster' . From the same dictionary, 'monster' is defined: 'A human-being by birth, but in some part resembling a lower animal.'
This is an unusual definition, but like all Law Dictionaries on this subject, a non-definition. It only states that a 'human being' is a higher animal. It is not found anywhere in Scripture that a Christian Man or Woman is an animal or part of the animal kingdom. This being the case, then what exactly is a 'human being.'

From the Oxford New English Dictionary of 1901, 'human' is defined as, '3. Belonging or relative to man as distinguished from God or superhuman beings; pertaining to the sphere or faculties of man (with implication of limitation or inferiority); mundane; secular. (Often opposed to divine.)'

'Secular' being the important word here, we look to the multi-difinitions in the 1992 Random House Webster's College Dictionary: "Secular' adj. 1. of or pertaining to worldly things or to things not regarded as sacred: temporal. 2. not relating to or concerned with religion (opposed to sacred). 3. concerned with non-religious subjects. 4. not belonging to a religious order: not bound by monastic vows."

Could it be that 'human' means un-Godly. From the same dictionary, a look at a combination of the two: 'Secular humanism' n. any set of beliefs that promotes human values without specific allusion to religious doctrines." And, "' secularism' n. 1. secular spirit or tendency, esp. a system of political or social philosophy that rejects all forms of religious faith or worship. 2. the view that public education and other matters of civil policy should be conducted without the influence of religious beliefs."

In conjunction with this, from Collier's New Dictionary of the *English Language, 1928. 'humanitarian' is defined: n. 'a philanthropist: an anti Trinitarian who rejects the doctrine of Christ's divinity; a perfectionist.: From the above Random House Dictionary, "humanitarianism' is defined: n. 'the doctrine that humankind may become perfect without divine aid.'

With no definition of 'human being' in Law, Mellinkoff's Dictionary of American Legal Usage, 1992, defines 'Person' as, 1."a human being--without regard to sex, legitimacy, or competence. This person is the central figure in law, as elsewhere, characterized by personal attributes of mind, intention, feelings, weaknesses, morality common to human beings; with rights and duties under the law. This is the person, sometimes called an individual, and often referred to in the law as a natural person, as distinguished from an artificial person (sense 3)."

Of course, 'morality common to human beings' is not explained, because that would reveal to much. Again, in Shawmut Bank, N.A. vs. Valley Farms, (610A.2d652,654) it states, "For purpose of statute protecting certain property from post-judgment remedies, and therefore from prejudgment attachment, 'natural person' means 'human being', not artificial or juristic person".

So, if natural person and human being are considered the same in the law, let's take a closer look at what a 'natural person' is. As you may know, all government codes, rules and regulations only attach to corporations, partnerships and natural persons. In American law, it seems that a definition of 'natural person' does not exist. To get any idea of what a natural person is, we have to go to English law. In the 17th Century, Lord Coke differentiated between 'natural persons' and 'moral persons in a community' in the following statement from his Institututes:... "we must observe, that estate is defined by the civilians, the capacity of moral persons; for, as natural persons have a certain space in which their natural existence is placed, and in which they perform their natural actions, so have persons in a community a certain state or capacity, in which they are supposed to exist, to perform their moral acts, and exercise all civil relations,"... (2 Inst. 669).

With 'natural man' being the same as 'natural person', we find further evidence of exactly what a 'human being' is. From the above Random House Dictionary, page 901, " 'Natural' adj. 17. natural man: unenlightened or unregenerate." From the same Dictionary, page 1461, " 'unregenerate' 1. not regenerate; unrepentant. 2. unconvinced by or unconverted to a particular religion, sect, or movement. 4. wicked; sinful; dissolute. 5. an unregenerate person."

In conjunction with this, from The Shorter Oxford English Dictionary, 1933, 'naturalism' is defined as: 'a system of morality or religion having a purely natural basis; a view of the world, and of man's relationship to it, in which only the operation of natural, as opposed to supernatural or spiritual, laws and forces is assumed.' and 'naturalist' is defined as: 'One who follows the light of nature, as contrasted with revelation.'

And, of course, the Scriptures being the final authority, confirms all of the above, at: 1 Corinthians 3:14, "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."

Therefore, when a Christian calls him or herself a 'human being', they are saying, "I'm an animal; I'm non-religious; I'm unrepentant: I'm wicked, sinful and dissolute; I'm able to do all things and be perfect without Jesus Christ; I'm subject to man's law, rather than God's Law." Unquote

www.hisholychurch.net/sermon/human.htm

And, this quoted does not refer to 'the status of man'. Just stating 'man', human, or human being' does not define the basis of legal trickery that entraps man into being subject to having the fruits of his labour confiscated by corporate Government with the use of force and extortion - and that is that living man can only have either the status of free will or slave. A 'free will' man has only one law to obey, the negative form of the Golden Rule/God's Law, and has the unalienable rights of life, liberty and property, plus rights to due process of law, as defined in Sections 20 and 39 of the Magna Carta (1225). A man of slave status has no rights nor right to due process of law.

It is common to see in Canada that the victim of crime fairs worse than the perpetrator of the crime - look at the results of the Williams case currently in litigation,as a pure example of what I say.
 
I can't see how further engaging this poster could be productive, but having this thread here for when people google "detax Canada" probably serves a useful purpose. It's the #4 result currently. As seen in the "magic wand" thread, some people do find these things when they research a given woo, and anyone seeing Eldon's writings here would be highly unlikely to put their tax future in his hands.

Quoting carlitos: "and anyone seeing Eldon's writings here would be highly unlikely to put their tax future in his hands."

What 'tax future'????? People who use my filing method never again have to pay income tax. The method is called 'FILING A $0.00 TAX OWING RETURN OF INCOME'. And, there is an amazing amount of Canadians and Americans, and likely Brits, Aussies and Kiwis, who also are putting their 'NO TAX' future in the system (not the hands) of Eldon Warman, and expressing many thanks for it.

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Hanna was not using the DetaxCanada method of the 1990s, nor the filing method that came into being in late 2003. I don't believe he was charged with tax evasion, but only 'failure to file', however, both charges arise out of a tort action in Provincial Court where there is a claimed violation of the corporate Crown's property right by the disobedience of an owned slave not accounting for or turning over demanded Crown property (the fruits of the owned slave's labour).

And, your: "having this thread here for when people google "detax Canada" probably serves a useful purpose" was obviously designed as a 'damage control scheme' by
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, JLord, as the 'extortion racketeers' obviously watch the hit counter on the Detax Canada website. And, for the purpose of discouraging people from going to the Detax Canada website. It has obviously been a abject failure, even though every poster except myself have been posting bashings of Eldon Warman, and not one word about the filing method taught on the website. The Canadian and American people (that matter) are not as dumb as 'ya'all believe'.

If anyone with half a brain reads the posts of the damage control posters on this thread, they will notice that I, Eldon Warman (and maybe, the OP) am the only one who gives the legal identity strawman name I use in this lifetime. All others use cowardly pseudonyms to hide their identity, so they cannot be held in any way liable or responsible for their actions in their efforts to keep Canadians and Americans in slave status, and thus subject to the extortion of their lives through the extortion of the fruits of their labour.
 
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So give us some examples from this "amazing number" of people using your methods.
 
Again, Eldon.. . listen this time!

I never said that Hanna used your filing method. I said he used its underlying principle, the “name game” theory during the appeal of his tax evasion conviction. And he was shot down big time in the light of open court.

That sets precedent for the dismissal of your latest detax theory by anyone who understands precedent, which you don’t.

The plain fact is there is a well documented trail of losers left in the wake of your tax and legal advice that stretches back to your own disastrous dealing with the IRS and the FBI in the 1980’s.

And there is not one documented case of a detax or legal success on your part or those of your detax clients.

The only thing you and your minions seem good at is fleeing the court's jurisdiction.


Quoting carlitos: "and anyone seeing Eldon's writings here would be highly unlikely to put their tax future in his hands."

What 'tax future'????? People who use my filing method never again have to pay income tax. The method is called 'FILING A $0.00 TAX OWING RETURN OF INCOME'. And, there is an amazing amount of Canadians and Americans, and likely Brits, Aussies and Kiwis, who also are putting their 'NO TAX' future in the system (not the hands) of Eldon Warman, and expressing many thanks for it.

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Hanna was not using the DetaxCanada method of the 1990s, nor the filing method that came into being in late 2003. I don't believe he was charged with tax evasion, but only 'failure to file', however, both charges arise out of a tort action in Provincial Court where there is a claimed violation of the corporate Crown's property right by the disobedience of an owned slave not accounting for or turning over demanded Crown property (the fruits of the owned slave's labour).

And, your: "having this thread here for when people google "detax Canada" probably serves a useful purpose" was obviously designed as a 'damage control scheme' by
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, JLord, as the 'extortion racketeers' obviously watch the hit counter on the Detax Canada website. And, for the purpose of discouraging people from going to the Detax Canada website. It has obviously been a abject failure, even though every poster except myself have been posting bashings of Eldon Warman, and not one word about the filing method taught on the website. The Canadian and American people (that matter) are not as dumb as 'ya'all believe'.

If anyone with half a brain reads the posts of the damage control posters on this thread, they will notice that I, Eldon Warman (and maybe, the OP) am the only one who gives the legal identity strawman name I use in this lifetime. All others use cowardly pseudonyms to hide their identity, so they cannot be held in any way liable or responsible for their actions in their efforts to keep Canadians and Americans in slave status, and thus subject to the extortion of their lives through the extortion of the fruits of their labour.
 
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Again, Eldon.. . listen this time!

I never said that Hanna used your filing method. I said he used its underlying principle, the “name game” theory during the appeal of his tax evasion conviction. And he was shot down big time in the light of open court.

That sets precedent for the dismissal of your latest detax theory by anyone who understands precedent, which you don’t.

The plain fact is there is a well documented trail of losers left in the wake of your tax and legal advice that stretches back to your own disastrous dealing with the IRS and the FBI in the 1980’s.

And there is not one documented case of a detax or legal success on your part or those of your detax clients.

The only thing you and your minions seem good at is fleeing the court's jurisdiction.
Jean Proteau might have finally seen the light of day:

The circumstances of this bankruptcy are so egregious that any court could easily justify a refusal of a discharge. I believe, however, that more could be gained by the imposition of a fairly stringent discharge order. I make this statement based upon the age and health of the bankrupt as well as the bankrupt’s assurance that he has changed his ways completely. This has been demonstrated by his payment of all his post-bankruptcy income tax debt and his commitment to collect and remit GST as required.

http://www.canlii.org/en/sk/skqb/doc/2006/2006skqb324/2006skqb324.html
 
So give us some examples from this "amazing number" of people using your methods.

I would only provide that to someone who is morally capable of respecting peoples' rights to their inherited free will status and thus unalienable rights to life, liberty and property (primarily, the property being their labour, and the fruits thereof), and the rights to 'due process of law' - no crime if no harm done to another by mens rea.
 
Oh look. Legal latin used incoherently. The calling card of the crank.
 
Looks like we have yet another case of a "successful" detaxer in Canada. Unfortunately for her, by successful I mean that she lost the case completely, is in a worse position than she would have been if she had originally just followed the law, and the judge (who is female) ruled that the defendants claim that she was a Jewish Freemason was not enough to prove a conspiracy against the defendant.

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/...vader_101022/20101022?hub=BritishColumbiaHome

Highlights:
A former dentist who says her trial on income tax evasion was fixed by a shadowy conspiracy of Freemasons and Jews has lost her latest bid to get out of paying a quarter-million dollar fine.

Vancouver Dr. Eva Notburga Marita Sydel was convicted of tax evasion four years ago for failing to report a whopping $750,000 in income. She was fined $244,447 and sentenced to jail for 18 months.
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She filed an appeal of her conviction in 2007, but abandoned it the next year.

In her latest in a long series of appearances in B.C. courtrooms, Sydel petitioned to renew her appeal, claiming that she has found new evidence that provincial court Judge Paul Meyers, a Jew, had discriminated against because she is German by descent.

Acting as her own lawyer, she also argued that Meyers was part of a conspiracy of Freemasons -- an international fraternal organization dating back to the 1600s. Conspiracy theorists often claim that the "invisible empire" of Freemasons has quietly controlled governments and economies worldwide for centuries -- if not millennia.

Sydel claimed that Meyers and the chief investigator for the Canada Revenue Agency used secret Freemason sign language during her trial to communicate with each other and ensure she was convicted.
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During her original trial, Sydel used the defence that she is a "natural person" -- not a taxpayer -- and therefore not obliged to pay income taxes. The "natural person" argument is a popular one with the so-called "detax" movement in Canada, but it has never been successful in court.

Indeed, the provincial court judge responded to Sydel's argument by suggesting that she was being willfully ignorant of the law.

So much delicious kookery all in one case! Freeman defense, Anti-Mason hysteria, Anti-Semitic...Eldon would be proud. Of course, even though she lost both her original case and the appeal completely, Eldon will tell us this is because of (1) some minor mistake she made in the paperwork or (2) that she did everything right and lost due a massive conspiracy of Freemasons and Jews.
 
Again, Eldon.. . listen this time!

I never said that Hanna used your filing method. I said he used its underlying principle, the “name game” theory during the appeal of his tax evasion conviction. And he was shot down big time in the light of open court.

I wonder what is meant by an 'open court'? A man wearing a black robe, that represents a cannibal priest, and is employed by the corporation that is responsible for the enslavement by legal trickery of mankind within the jurisdiction of that corporation, and then enforces the harvesting of the fruits of the labour of the enslaved men and women by his own word, and without due process of law, as stipulated for free will man in the Magna Carta, Sections 20 and 39, such as an unbiased jury, and the production of a damaged party (of course, the corporate Crown or State is the damaged slave owner, I suppose), can hardly be termed an 'open court'. The word 'kangaroo' comes more to mind.

And, from the research I just did on the Yukon case of James Clifford Hanna, he had a bit of my Name Game basis in his argument, but still identified himself as being James Clifford Hanna, and 'identification' is the fatal trick pulled off by the judge. Also, people were, and some still do, state that the all caps spelling is the 'legal name' basis. I have corrected my material some time ago showing that it is the changing of the family name to a primary name that allows for the claim of owned intellectual property by the Crown.

That sets precedent for the dismissal of your latest detax theory by anyone who understands precedent, which you don’t.

No, it doesn't. One has only to look at the case to see the basis upon which the judge was able to continue the disciplining of a slave owned by the Crown, and imposing a fine - which Hanna never paid, as he moved to Costra Rica - now considered the 'most free' and overall happy country in the world.

The plain fact is there is a well documented trail of losers left in the wake of your tax and legal advice that stretches back to your own disastrous dealing with the IRS and the FBI in the 1980’s.

The only debris on my trail is all the lies and false statements and pure BS left by yourself in your failed damage control efforts to keep people in their Government imposed slave status.

And there is not one documented case of a detax or legal success on your part or those of your detax clients.

The only thing you and your minions seem good at is fleeing the court's jurisdiction.

When there are no charges, there are no cases, and no cases means no documentation on positive results. Now, if you, or anyone on this thread has come up with a way to prove a negative, then, let's hear it. The 3 or 4 cases yo keep spouting are not of my doing. There have been, and still are a lot of so-called detax programs out there that are purely mole induced and intended. Because they charge for their programs, they are stupidly seen by many ignorant souls as being more authentic than my free program. Thus, I am continually correcting people on such as AFV, trusts, contract law remedy, UCC remedy, freeman remedy, and such. Thus, I cannot control how people react in court when they are operating under several detax theories.
 
Looks like we have yet another case of a "successful" detaxer in Canada. Unfortunately for her, by successful I mean that she lost the case completely, is in a worse position than she would have been if she had originally just followed the law, and the judge (who is female) ruled that the defendants claim that she was a Jewish Freemason was not enough to prove a conspiracy against the defendant.

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/...vader_101022/20101022?hub=BritishColumbiaHome

Highlights:
So much delicious kookery all in one case! Freeman defense, Anti-Mason hysteria, Anti-Semitic...Eldon would be proud. Of course, even though she lost both her original case and the appeal completely, Eldon will tell us this is because of (1) some minor mistake she made in the paperwork or (2) that she did everything right and lost due a massive conspiracy of Freemasons and Jews.

Eva Sydel was using the Russ Porisky 'Paradigm Group' program, that I identified as being a CRA sting operation right from the beginning. He started up right after the Canadian detax Group was exposed as being a CRA sting operation. The latter group started up 4 months after I posted my Detaxcanada.org website in early January of 1998.

Both Porisky's and Ken McMordie's programs are typical programs right out of the Jesuit written 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion' - 95% factual info, with 5% poison - about the same ratio as beef soup with arsenic - the poison that killed the 3 Popes previous to the current one, most likely because they were going to shut down the whole fascist/corporatist regime of the Holy Roman Empire. And the Cardinals loyal to ancient Chaldean Zionism and its elite King/Priests weren't about to let that happen. No, Zionism is not originally a Jew thing.

Also, I point out very clearly in my info that 'freeman = slave granted privileges, and is synonymous with 'citizen' and 'subject'. The term used in the Magna Carta was 'liber homo' meaning 'free man, or more correctly, 'free will man'.

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And, I am NOT anti-Semitic.... I think the Palestinian people are wonderful examples of manhood, unlike the cowards that most Canadians and Americans are proving themselves to be.
 
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Oh look. Legal latin used incoherently. The calling card of the crank.

Oh! I wasn't writing that for you. I wrote it for someone with some morality and intelligence who may chance to read my posts. But, apparently, my post got the attention of the resident crank - so guess it was a crank calling card.
 
Jean Proteau might have finally seen the light of day:

Why don't you e-mail me for Jean Proteau's e-mail address and ask him yourself.

We are still on frequent e-mail exchange. And, he certainly has never complained to me about his battles with CRA. Like myself, he is an x-fighter jock, and likes a good dog fight. And, in those, you win some and lose some.

He bailed out of a burning F-104 back in the late 1960s. I flew F-101 Voodoos out of Comox for some 5 years. That surely beat what all you thread posters seem capable of doing - keyboard jockeys, and obedient slaves paying your fair share of the slave's labour harvest, and badmouthing anyone who has other ideas than just being an obedient slave.
 
The gold thing is always stupid. I always enjoy the idea of people in a post apocalyptic world wrapping themselves in gold bricks to keep the cold out, lighting some gold on fire to heat a gold pot so they can make a nourishing gold stew whilst laughing at all those suckers who stockpiled water, food, clothing, fuel, ammunition and other frivolities.

And, I suppose that the fiat Monopoly money that now is CDN currency and American FRNs, that is not even a 'bill of exchange', and inflating at an ever increasing rate, is going to be able to be used as porridge when ground up,
or a source of heat when used as fuel in the fireplace of the house that has been taken from you under foreclosure by the banksters.

I think you will find that those who have collected some gold and silver are the ones who also are gathering in water, food, clothing, fuel, ammunition and other frivolities. How many of the latter have you stockpiled? A couple of Big Mac hamburgers? I hear they are just as durable against corrosion as is gold.
 
Heck Eldon, if you could just show a single success from your program, think of how easily you could shut us all up! Instead, we see nothing but flaming wreckage after flaming wreckage.

Don't you ever get tired of destroying people's lives with your impotent rage against the machine?
 
Why don't you e-mail me for Jean Proteau's e-mail address and ask him yourself.

We are still on frequent e-mail exchange. And, he certainly has never complained to me about his battles with CRA. Like myself, he is an x-fighter jock, and likes a good dog fight. And, in those, you win some and lose some.
Yeah, I'd say paying all of your back taxes is a pretty big loss. I guess he didn't follow your system in just the right way either, eh?

Is it possible for any of these universally disastrous failures to falsify your "theories", or are your delusions completely ironclad?

That was a rhetorical question, BTW. We all know what the answer is.
 
A Whitehorse man who tried to thwart tax collectors by claiming he doesn't have a name has been fined more than $3,000. Cliff Hanna was convicted in territorial court late last month of failing to file income tax returns for the past three years.
He attempted to persuade the justice of the peace, Garry Burgess, that he is a free man who owes the government nothing.
In a sworn affidavit, he declared that the name James Clifford Hanna was put on his birth certificate many years ago in Alberta without his permission. He disclaimed responsibility for debts or obligations the government may now assign to that name.

Okay... I have spent the last few hours reading this thread, largely due to personal interest as a Canadian. My mind was just blow reading about Cliff Hanna. I realize that it's not a highly unusual name, but Whitehorse is a small place... I may have used this guy as an equine dentist. Srsly. I always thought he was an odd duck. Although further research indicates that he is still doing equine dentistry in the area, so it could be a different guy. I also noticed that article is from 2006 so maybe he's back in town?

I would like to commend you folks who have taken up the seemingly futile task of arguing against someone who uses circular logic and bizarre facts. Your patience and knowledge is much stronger than mine. It has helped me gain a lot of clarification on Canadian legal and financial stuff that I wasn't clear on before.
 
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