Detax Canada

[twinstead]

From what I can see, Canadians ARE subject to the income tax, just like Americans and people in many, many other countries. Why would anybody try to convince them they aren't? That could get people in trouble.

 

[D'rok]

Congrats Horatius. You have exactly one minute more of a life than me.

 

[drkitten]

Seems that we have a plethora here of those who are parasites feasting on the blood of the Canadian victims of the income tax scam and extortion racket; or, we have a lot of slaves who suffer from the Stockholm Syndrome.

Yeah, I can see where a forum full of Americans and Europeans would be "feasting on the blood of the Canadian victims of the income tax scam."

Because there's no possibility that a legal theory that has never in its life been the basis for a successful case could be wrong, now, is there? And there's no possibility that the people pushing this perfectly unsuccessful legal theory are the actual scammers?

 

[bikerdruid]

Seems that we have a plethora here of those who are parasites feasting on the blood of the Canadian victims of the income tax scam and extortion racket; or, we have a lot of slaves who suffer from the Stockholm Syndrome.

I guess, those with pockets full of money from their feasting on the victims would make such parasites do a lot of smiling and chuckling, especially when they do it is derision against someone who would show Canadians how they are not subject to the income tax, and how to avoid the scheme that supposedly makes them liable to the predatory acts by CRA. Wonder what ever happened to conscience?

income tax is alreadfy deducted from my pensions cheque.
the only way i can get any back is to file.
and i always get money back. sometimes a lot.

since i paid into pension my entire working life and had no choice, you can call me a parasite if you wish.....
however, if you claim to pay no income tax....
and ever access the medical system,
or call the RCMP,
or use a passport to travel to another country,.
or accept anything form the government, ever.....you are the parasite.

 

[dirtywick]

EldonG, you should use all that tax money you're not paying to hire a web designer. It's like you didn't even try. I'd be embarrassed. Honestly.

 

[EldonG]

Welcome back.

Any luck with the T4 re-assessment issue yet? Or is your system still failing miserably?

P.S. Thanks again for paying income tax. You can enjoy your health care (which I gather you need quite a bit these days) guilt free.

It is you who are failing miserably - at your attempts to convince Canadians and Americans that they must be good obedient 'plantation slaves' and give the fruits of their labour up to the slave master - the corporate Crown of the City of London. Many are now awakening to the fact that income tax pays for NOTHING. A few likely have read the US Grace Commission Report that was written during the President Reagan era, and it certainly applies to Canada as well.

Quote from the Grace Commission Report:
"With two-thirds of everyone's personal income taxes wasted or not collected, 100 percent of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the Federal debt and by Federal Government contributions to transfer payments. In other words, all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services which taxpayers expect from their Government." Unquote freecanadian.net/articles/grace.html

 

[EldonG]

EldonG, you should use all that tax money you're not paying to hire a web designer. It's like you didn't even try. I'd be embarrassed. Honestly.

Geee.... I'm sorry about that. Go to source, copy it, and re-design it for me will you? Since I don't charge anyone for the info I have or offer on it, I am not about spending my money of 'gussying it up' for the snooty ones, especially those who reject its info, and wish to continue to be good milk cows to the corporate Crown, the (tax) farmer - or, those who are to cowardly to fight back.

 

[D'rok]

It is you who are failing miserably - at your attempts to convince Canadians and Americans that they must be good obedient 'plantation slaves' and give the fruits of their labour up to the slave master - the corporate Crown of the City of London. Many are now awakening to the fact that income tax pays for NOTHING.

You didn't answer my question. Is your system still failing? Yes or no?

A few likely have read the US Grace Commission Report that was written during the President Reagan era, and it certainly applies to Canada as well.

No. A US commission's report on the US federal government has precisely zero relevance to Canada.

Quote from the Grace Commission Report:
"With two-thirds of everyone's personal income taxes wasted or not collected, 100 percent of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the Federal debt and by Federal Government contributions to transfer payments. In other words, all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services which taxpayers expect from their Government." Unquote freecanadian.net/articles/grace.html

This is a non sequitur. Your quoted text is an insertion into the Grace commission report by the author of that website. The Grace commission has no relevance to Canada.

All tax revenue in Canada goes into the Consolidated Revenue Fund. The costs for services are charged to this fund.

Your taxes directly pay for your health care. It is good that you have paid them throughout your working life and that you likely continue to pay them on your pension. It is also generous of you not to apply for a refund.

 

[drkitten]

Quote from the Grace Commission Report:

You mean the outdated, irrelevant, and long-discredited Grace Commission Report?

I'll bet you get your ideas for proper medical treatment out of 19th century snake oil advertisements, don't you?

ETA: Sorry, out of 19th century veterinary snake oil advertisements.

 

[EldonG]

income tax is alreadfy deducted from my pensions cheque.
the only way i can get any back is to file.
and i always get money back. sometimes a lot.

since i paid into pension my entire working life and had no choice, you can call me a parasite if you wish.....
however, if you claim to pay no income tax....
and ever access the medical system,
or call the RCMP,
or use a passport to travel to another country,.
or accept anything form the government, ever.....you are the parasite.

And, when you get your rotten bread and pig guts as your 'benefit' from your slave master, you get on your knees and say: "Thank you Massah! Youze a mighty good Massah!" Must be nice to know in your heart that you are a son of the Father in Heaven, and yet have to 'suck-hole' and 'brown-nose' some fictional entity, and those who are evil enough to operate the levers within that fictional body. What a sad diminution of your real status within this Universe. Where is that Chinese man who stood in front of the tanks on Tienanmen Square a few years ago. Are there no Canadians with that level of bravery and dedication to cause? Resistance against CRA thugs and their Communist income tax (see 2nd Plank of the Communist Manifesto - criminalgovernment.com/docs/planks.html ), and the Communist thugs driving those tanks would seem to be very comparable to me.

And, if you have the honesty to peruse the US GRACE COMMISSION REPORT, you will see their statement: Quote: "In other words, all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services which taxpayers expect from their Government." unquote And, don't bother spewing the retort that the report only applies to the USA. You'd better believe - it applies to Canada as well.

 

[EldonG]

You mean the outdated, irrelevant, and long-discredited Grace Commission Report?

I'll bet you get your ideas for proper medical treatment out of 19th century snake oil advertisements, don't you?

ETA: Sorry, out of 19th century veterinary snake oil advertisements.

What sort of idiotic response is that? You make statements that cannot at all be proven with certifiable facts.

And, it seems to me that you have taken sufficient amounts of that snake oil to warp your puny mind.

 

[Praktik]

Good luck with that Eldon!

Having personally seen a tax avoidance scheme ruin the lives of many friends and associates I hope that you don't end up with wage garnishing and possible prison.

And I hope that you haven't convinced too many of your friends and associates with this - because sooner or later the whole ring you've established will be brought down, and you will be personally responsible for the lost homes and increased debtloads of all of them.

These things can last a while. But if they haven't caught up yet just means they're a bit behind.

The commies will get you in the end. You need to ask yourself pragmatically: I'm living in this NWO Commie Nightmare that is Canada, how do I do so the most successfully?

Willfully adding tens of thousands in debt obligations to the government and potential legal trouble doesn't seem like the wisest course to Fight The Evil Government - sounds like a good way of making yourself and anyone else who you've convinced with this BS victims of the Evil Commies.

 

[Praktik]

Eldon... you wouldn't happen to be Eldon Warman eh?

You can reply by PM if you don't want to reveal that publicly...

 

[carlitos]

Must be nice to know in your heart that you are a son of the Father in Heaven, and yet have to 'suck-hole' and 'brown-nose' some fictional entity, and those who are evil enough to operate the levers within that fictional body.

Hi EldonG,

I'm looking for clarification here. I am under the impression that the "Father in Heaven" is a fictional entity, and the government is real. I have evidence that the government exists, but none for the "Father in Heaven." Do you disagree? I can't quite follow your argument here.

Thanks!

 

[D'rok]

Eldon... you wouldn't happen to be Eldon Warman eh?

You can reply by PM if you don't want to reveal that publicly...

Yes, he is Eldon Warman. He's made no secret of that from the beginning of this thread.

 

[drkitten]

What sort of idiotic response is that?

A very direct implication that the Grace Commission Report is is irrelevant, outdated, and long-discredited.

You make statements that cannot at all be proven with certifiable facts.

Yeah, like I can't prove that the tax laws and policies of the United States are different from Canada. Everyone knows that Canuckistan is really just the fifty-first state. We just let you have those pretty little play-money "dollars" because y'all can't be trusted with anything actually valuable.

 

[EldonG]

From what I can see, Canadians ARE subject to the income tax, just like Americans and people in many, many other countries. Why would anybody try to convince them they aren't? That could get people in trouble.

Canadians and Americans are only "SUBJECT TO" the 2nd Plank of Karl Marx' Communist Manifesto - "A heavy progressive or graduated income tax." - by their having been duped into 'slave status' by the corporate administrative Crown of the City of London, a wholly owned city/state of the Pontiff's 'FASCIST" Holy Roman Empire. As natural born men and women, there is no innate reason why a fictional corporate body has the right of domination over mankind. And, it cannot be reasoned that the majority of mankind would suffer themselves to be under such domination, if they fully understood the implications of that domination.

My son graduated from Ottawa's Carlton University 20 or so years ago. Upon graduating, he made the comment that 'There were more Communists in Carlton University than there were in Moscow, Russia. Are they now all spending their day lurking by their computers and watching this thread, which was obviously designed to debunk Eldon Warman's character and his website, www.detaxcanada,org ?? I suppose that would be an honour to me, considering the number of trolls, shills and debunkers that have occupied the postings on this thread. It certainly should prove to casual readers of this thread that Eldon Warman is truly a burr under the saddle of the 'income tax extortion racket's horse.

 

[Praktik]

Yes, he is Eldon Warman. He's made no secret of that from the beginning of this thread.

Hehe great!

Eldon, do you know Murray Gauvreau?

 

[D'rok]

My son graduated from Ottawa's Carlton University 20 or so years ago. Upon graduating, he made the comment that 'There were more Communists in Carlton University than there were in Moscow, Russia. Are they now all spending their day lurking by their computers and watching this thread, which was obviously designed to debunk Eldon Warman's character and his website, www.detaxcanada,org ?? I suppose that would be an honour to me, considering the number of trolls, shills and debunkers that have occupied the postings on this thread. It certainly should prove to casual readers of this thread that Eldon Warman is truly a burr under the saddle of the 'income tax extortion racket's horse.

Hey, we have to earn our Red Robes somehow. The Priesthood of Isis doesn't just hand those things out, you know!

 

[EldonG]

A very direct implication that the Grace Commission Report is is irrelevant, outdated, and long-discredited.

Yeah, like I can't prove that the tax laws and policies of the United States are different from Canada. Everyone knows that Canuckistan is really just the fifty-first state. We just let you have those pretty little play-money "dollars" because y'all can't be trusted with anything actually valuable.

You have no argument from me on that point. A lady who now lives in Langley, BC, did some major research on the founding of the Bank of Canada that happened in the mid 1930s. She found that the Bank of Canada (central bank) was incorporated with 50,000 voting shares. Those voting shares were promptly sold to the Federal Reserve Bank of NYC, where they were stripped of the voting rights, and the then 50,000 non-voting shares were sold back to the Crown in Right of Canada, making it appear as if the Crown in Right of Canada was the owner of the Bank of Canada. The result was that the Bank of Canada was wholly put under the control of the Federal Reserve of the USA. As D. Rockefeller said, it matters not who owns a property, but who controls it.

Unfortunately, the liberal Americans and the big banksters are finding out the truth of Rockefeller's observation (paraphrased) by Obama becoming the inaugurated President of the corporate UNITED STATES. As the 'captain' of the make believe corporate ship, he is inviolate from outside attacks, either from within America, or the secret Government of the Pope above America.

If you think the destruction of the WTC was impressive, wait until Obama finishes planting all the demolition charges under the foundation of the Pope's FASCIST imposition on America, the corporate UNITED STATES and the foreign enemy and terrorist enclave, the District of Columbia.