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Detax Canada

I bet that some Detaxers ,loony as they are,would consider EldonG's obssesion with the Catholic Church to be crazy.
BTW I am betting we are dealing with some kind of Protesent Fundy here......
 
Why? It is the court system that is imposing the statutory 'slave' rules on free will man. Imposing punishments for disobedience to slave rules (persons) is a total violation of our Creator God Given Rights for Creator God's children on Planet Earth, where there is no victim or harm to anyone.

I know that is not within the capacity of a collectivist's narrow mind, but it is a fact.
Your track record with facts on this thread leaves just a bit to be desired. I see you are repeating the same crap to JLord that you tried on me. JLord actually practices law in Canada. Yet you have the idiotic gall to tell him/her that Canadian judges apply the American Fugitive Slave Act of 1850, despite the fact that a) Acts of Congress do not apply to Canada, and b) that is no longer good law in the USA.

Will you be repeating your idiocy about the BNA Act and how it only refers to Queen Victoria? How about the IRS and the IMF? Will you ignore JLord's correct explanation of the promissory note case (which was exactly the same as mine)?

Oh, I forgot. Whenever someone checks your facts (which is pathetically easy to do), the falsehoods that are revealed are just evidence of shills planting said falsehoods to discredit your info. It's a foolproof plan! Three cheers for iron-clad delusional unfalsifiability!

You assaulted a police officer. You went to jail. Good. You dodged your taxes when you flew planes in the USA. You were arrested, lost your pilot's licence and your job. Good. I'm sorry about your wife, but wherever she is or isn't right now, she is better off.

I'm glad my taxes pay for both your health care and your just punishments. The system works.

You are ineffectual and do nothing other than provide moderate amounts of trollish entertainment. Keep up the good work.
 
All fiat money created by corporate Government (a body politic, as explained by Lord Blackstone in his Commentaries) .

This another classic fallacy that I have seen a lot. The appeal to something like a legal dictionary or in this case Blackstone. This is just someone's opinion, it doesn't make it the law. Court's have accepted the reasoning set out by Blackstone or in dictionaries many times, but that doesn't mean that the dictionary (or Blackstone) can then be used as a source of law. It's a useful resource, but not an accurate description of the law.

is a form of 'ship's script',

Kind of like that, but also much more since money has specific attributes granted by statute. So much so that I would say calling it a form of ship's script is most likely an attempt to be deceptive. It might be possible to draw an analogy between money and ship's script but that doesn't mean one equals the other.

as an incorporated body is a 'make-believe ship at sea' with a captain, officers and (crew)members

No, this isn't the case. The laws relating to corporations in Canada are set out by statute. The Business Corporations Act makes no mention of corporations being "make-believe ships at sea." Again, you might be able to draw a loose analogy between a corporation and a ship at sea, but that doesn't mean one equals the other.

A lawyer's denial of that fact does not negate that fact.

Nor does your assertion make it a fact. I would be interested to see if there are any Canadian decisions that agree with your position.

All cases that can be cited from Canadian or American courts show that the man was, by self incrimination, or by legal trickery of the judge, 'identified' as being one and the same as the Crown or State owned legal name.

The court makes no disctinction between a person and their free will being or their alter-ego or whatever you want to call it. Many people have tried to make this argument and the court has never accepted that such a thing exists (again, if I am wrong you can provide us with the decision).

This allows the judge to then impose the Feudal System 'master/servant' law based upon the property right of the slave owner.

The fact that we are all subject to the jurisdiction of the court has nothing to do with slave ownership. Once again you could make a loose analogy in that everyone is subject to jurisdiction of the court regardless of whether they agree or not, just like how slaves were slaves regardless of whether they agreed. But we are talking about two totally different ideas that at best are only marginally related.

The American Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 wording shows the Roman ideals of slave control in Section 6, where it says: "In no trial or hearing under this act shall the testimony of such alleged fugitive be admitted in evidence; and the certificates in this and the first [fourth] section mentioned, shall be conclusive of the right of the person or persons in whose favor granted, to remove such fugitive to the State or Territory from which he escaped, and shall prevent all molestation of such person or persons by any process issued by any court, judge, magistrate, or other person whomsoever."

This is all totally irrelevant. If you disagree feel free to provide a decision where this was relevant.

So, when a man who has identified himself as being property of the Crown through unlawful attachment to the Crtown owned legal name, the above is applied, and any arguments presented by the defendant are ignored by the judge.

No. The above is never applied in any situation, regardless of what a person wants to call himself in court. Again, if you disagree feel free to provide any decision where this reasoning was applied.

How do you know that such tactics have not worked? If you cannot find evidence in court transcripts or precedents, what would be your source of knowledge to deny my propositions on stopping court actions?

There is lots of evidence in court transcripts of them not working. Many decisions have been posted already in this thread. If you disagree then provide some decisions where these tactics have worked.

You mention people now using promissory notes. I have seen proof of three parties in Vernon, BC who have paid off their complete mortgages with promissory notes. A lady here in Calgary had 2 years property tax ($5,000) given a 'paid in full' notice from the City of Calgary, plus a notice that the tax lien on her home was removed at Land Titles. I say the City documents.

So you are saying that you have seen a bank accept something that has no value as payment of a mortgage and that you have proof of this? I would be interested in hearing more details and seeing your proof because I highly doubt that a bank would ever accept that.

You seem to be freely using the 'fear' tactic here without any explanation as to why certain people have failed in ccourt in defending their god Given rights.

I am certainly not using any "fear tactics" and I am willing to explain why people have failed in court. On the simplest level it is the same reason everyone who fails in court has failed, they didn't have a persuasive argument.

You use the term'detaxer' as being a derogatory ephitet. We are free will adult men and women who have learned that we have been fraudulently subjugated by forces of the Vatican, using fictional organizations called corporations to deprive us of our Creator God given rights and freedoms.

I haven't used it in a derogatory sense at all. I just use it to refer to a very wide group of people, not all of which may agree exactly with your ideology. There just aren't many good collective terms for that type of person.
 
I am certainly prepared to engage in honest debate. I will stand by the posts I have made so far as well. If you think I have said anything that is untrue or dishonest feel free to quote it and provide your reasoning.

I would comment on this:

As I have observed, lawyers commit their primary part in the fraud by 'omission', and not 'commission'.

It's making statements without explaining why the acts or procedures do or do not work.

For instance, I used the website: Ask a lawyer, about the currency being a promissory note thing, as stated in the Bank of Canada currency has change since that court decision or opinion of some of the judges. But, he didn't explain what the changes were.

It took further research by myself to determine that the 'promise to pay' feature that was previously on the currency had been removed.

Under what circumstances could this have been done by Parliament, or whomever made such a decision? Well it seems that whoever or whatever organization did it felt that it was ok to show that Canada was a make believe vessel at sea that would never reach home port, and thus, there was no need to have 'ship script' that would be redeemable by the members (persons) of the corporate body, and since all Canadians were considered to be slave crewmembers on the Canadian war galley, they had no more need for a promissory note to eventually redeem for real asset value money.
 
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It's the non-mythical opinion.


Still waiting for you to explain how the infrastructure is maintained if we don't pay our taxes.

Well, if you Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of NYC, Beardsley Ruml (1946) - I mistakenly said the speach was before the Chamber of Commerce, but it was the American Bar Association:

"TAXES FOR REVENUE ARE OBSOLETE"
-by Beardsley Ruml, Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.


Speech:

The superior position of public government over private business is nowhere more clearly evident than in government's power to tax business. Business gets its many rule-making powers from public government. Public government sets the limits to the exercise of these rule-making powers of business, and protects the freedom of business operations within this area of authority. Taxation is one of the limitations placed by government on the power of business to do what it pleases.

There is nothing reprehensible about this procedure. The business that is taxed is not a creature of flesh and blood, it is not a citizen. It has no voice in how it shall be governed --- nor should it. The issues in the taxation of business are not moral issues, but are questions of practical effect: What will get the best results? How should business be taxed so that business will make its greatest contribution to the common good?

It is sometimes instructive when faced with alternatives to ask the underlying question. If we are to understand the problems involved in the taxation of business, we must first ask: "Why does the government need to tax at all?" This seems to be a simple question, but, as is the case with simple questions, the obvious answer is likely to be a superficial one. The obvious answer is, of course, that taxes provide the revenue which the government needs in order to pay its bills.

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Spanish Inquisition/Communist Inquisition are they the same? You seemed to indicate that Stalin was ruled by the Jesuits and had some relation to the SI.

Did you know that the Inquisition was conducted by the Dominicans (gods' dogs) and not by the Jesuits?

The Inquisition was carried out by orders from the Pontiff of Rome and the Cardinals of the Hill of Sacrifice (Vatican) - (the Red Robed Priesthood of Isis).
It matters not what subdivision of that organization actually wielded the sword and torture devices.
 
I bet that some Detaxers ,loony as they are,would consider EldonG's obssesion with the Catholic Church to be crazy.
BTW I am betting we are dealing with some kind of Protesent Fundy here......

I, Eldon Warman have no quarrel or obsession with the Roman Catholic Church. It mattes not to me how many beads they count or how much holy water they sprinkle, or the fact that they worship a pig (Iesus and later Jesus just means 'pig' in latin).

What I am concerned about is the secular or worldly claim to power that is by the Pontifex maximus (Pontiff) of the Holy Roman Empire, whose claim is to be Ruler of the World. That Rule was made perfectly clear when the Pope of Rome became overlord over England in 1213. And that treaty is FOREVER.

I could care less if any 'detaxers' decide to stay as a slave of the corporation owned by the pontiff of Rome. that is their free will right .
 
I bet that some Detaxers ,loony as they are,would consider EldonG's obssesion with the Catholic Church to be crazy.
BTW I am betting we are dealing with some kind of Protesent Fundy here......

I, Eldon Warman have no quarrel or obsession with or against the Roman Catholic Church. It mattes not to me how many beads they count, how many Holy Marys they chant, or how much holy water they sprinkle, or the fact that they worship a pig (Iesus and later Jesus just means 'pig' in latin).

What I am concerned about is the secular or worldly claim to power that is by the Pontifex maximus (Pontiff) of the Holy Roman Empire, whose claim is to be Ruler of the World. That Rule was made perfectly clear when the Pope of Rome became overlord over England in 1213. And that treaty is FOREVER.

I could care less if any 'detaxers' decide to stay as a slave of the corporation owned by the pontiff of Rome. that is their free will right .
 
Your track record with facts on this thread leaves just a bit to be desired. I see you are repeating the same crap to JLord that you tried on me. JLord actually practices law in Canada. Yet you have the idiotic gall to tell him/her that Canadian judges apply the American Fugitive Slave Act of 1850, despite the fact that a) Acts of Congress do not apply to Canada, and b) that is no longer good law in the USA.

Yes, obviously JLord 'practises'. One practises when one attempts to get something right. I suspect that he need to practise more.

I never suggested that Canadian judges invoke the American Fugitive Slave Act. That act was rescinded after the Civil War. I just point out that Congress saw fit to impose a doctrine out of Roman Law in that Act that all judges in Canada and the USA are currently using to 'discipline' disobedient slaves who refuse to turn over the fruits of their labour to the corporate Crown of State - the slave owner.

Will you be repeating your idiocy about the BNA Act and how it only refers to Queen Victoria?

You haven't offered any proof that it my finding is wrong. Just GOOGLE 'Constitution Act of Canada' and read it yourself. Check out Section 2 and Note (3). Hint: laws.justice.gc.ca/en/Const/index.html

How about the IRS and the IMF? Will you ignore JLord's correct explanation of the promissory note case (which was exactly the same as mine)?

You did a good job in debunking the several websites that show up with the IRS info, posted by American dis-information specialists to provide 'red herrings' for the gullible Americans. As far as JLords verbage on currency and promissory notes, he said exactly what you said - Canadian currency is promissory notes. What is so different than what I said: Canadian currency is a form of promissory note. The banks and Government know this. How come you and JLord don't?


Oh, I forgot. Whenever someone checks your facts (which is pathetically easy to do), the falsehoods that are revealed are just evidence of shills planting said falsehoods to discredit your info. It's a foolproof plan! Three cheers for iron-clad delusional unfalsifiability!)

Well then - Do so! So far, you have provided no evidence for anything you spew.

You assaulted a police officer. You went to jail. Good. You dodged your taxes when you flew planes in the USA. You were arrested, lost your pilot's licence and your job. Good. I'm sorry about your wife, but wherever she is or isn't right now, she is better off.

Moderator, This is a definite 'ad hominum attack upon this bullcrap that a shill from the USA, Jack Foster of Kentucky, has been spewing for several years against Eldon Warman on forums to 'kill the messenger, to detract from the messenger's message of truth. This D'ork is very likely this Jack Foster.

I'm glad my taxes pay for both your health care and your just punishments. The system works.

Income tax pays for nothing. Income tax, once declared and paid is just deleted from existence. As fiat money, it is of no value to the banksters or the Pontiff once the fruits of the labour of the taxed is removed from their possession.

You are ineffectual and do nothing other than provide moderate amounts of trollish entertainment. Keep up the good work.

Unfortunately, you fail to even do that. You just waste your time in your futile attempts to be an effective shill.
 
You haven't offered any proof that it my finding is wrong.
You must have missed it. Post #111 on page three. Here it is again for your edification since you can't be bothered to actually read the constitution of your own country:

"Whereas the Provinces of Canada, Nova Scotia, and New Brunswick have expressed their Desire to be federally united into One Dominion under the Crown of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, with a Constitution similar in Principle to that of the United Kingdom:"

http://canlii.org/en/ca/const/const1867.html



Your stay here is nearing its end methinks. So I'll bid you adieu.
 
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I must have missed it when Magna Carta became binding legal precedent rather than a quaint interpretive tool. I have a research question - does the Bayeux Tapestry say anything on it that can get rid of my gambling debt? There are some Policy Enforcers who are going to break my thumbs if I don't pay them any of my worthless fiat currency.
 
Moderator, This is a definite 'ad hominum attack upon this bullcrap that a shill from the USA, Jack Foster of Kentucky, has been spewing for several years against Eldon Warman on forums to 'kill the messenger, to detract from the messenger's message of truth. This D'ork is very likely this Jack Foster.



That dastardly D'Rok, lurking here since December 2006, just waiting for his chance to pounce....
 
For someone with such strong opinions, Mr. Warman sure seems interested in acquiring plenty of "ship's script".

"Until the mine stopped conducting mine tours for existing shareholders and potential new investors, Eldon Warman was employed by the Stanfield Mining Group as the tour bus driver. On one such tour I was told quietly by Mr. Warman that the ore in the Gallowai mine was worth $20,000 per ton and that the Grand Mineral ore was worth $ 70,000 per ton.

The conversation then wandered into the need for Mr. Stanfield to be very discreet about the mine's true wealth so as not to draw the attention of those who want to take it over. Over the years, shareholders have been regularly cautioned in the company's promotional material as well as by the sales reps about forces actively seeking to take over the mine."

http://www.vancouversun.com/opinion...embraces+rejects+columnist/3087220/story.html
Looks like our Mr. Warman is all wrapped up in a mining scam set to rival Bre-X. Except it's all coming unraveled with the death of the principal crook (Stanfield).

http://www.vancouversun.com/life/Pr...ok+gold+mine+million+limbo/3366014/story.html

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/topic.html?t=Person&q=Ross+Stanfield

No wonder Warman is so cranky.
 
Is this thread about FMotL insanity or just about some guy who got caught dodging his taxes and is bumhurt?
 
You guys aren't using the NWO Time Machine to play with trolls again, are you? You know how much that irritates the owl.
 
Wow. What a piece of work.....From D'rok's first link (in the quote tags)


I am quite familiar with Warman. He lives in Calgary and he's founder of Detax Canada, an organization that clings to the belief that the federal government cannot legally force citizens to pay taxes.

He is also grossly anti-Semitic. He complains about financial domination "by Zionist Jew banksters," and expresses regret that "we don't have a greater need for soap and lampshades."

Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/opinion...ts+columnist/3087220/story.html#ixzz0y8yC49vb
 

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