Designing a test for the magnetic coasters...

cogreslab said:
Sorry to be slow in responding. I didnt see your question until now. Yes, of course. How many do you want me to send to you?
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Just one. I have sent a PM with the details. Thanks in advance.
 
Tez said:
Ok, I think we have a pretty workable protocol based around steve's post (thanks for putting the time in for that), which is of course a product of many of your much appreciated inputs.

I'm pretty much prepared to do it any weekday afternoon/evening this week or next. EHocking, I am glad you've agreed to volunteer!

FWIW I agree with Pragmatist in many of his suggestions, in as much as were we simply scientists setting out to explore the realm of the effects of magnetisation on various liquids, this is certainly not the sort of test we'd be doing! However, the nature of this test is partly due to the history of Roger's and my interactions...

(BTW, what "sort" of Pragmatist are you? When forced to make a statement on my philosophical tendencies I generally claim to ascribe to some version of "old" pragmatism. Personally I find Rorty goes too far for me. Davidson I like a lot, and indirectly he has influenced the way I think about quantum mechanics and realism in general. Rorty has as well to be truthful ;) )
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I've never bothered to study the philosophy too much - too much of a pragmatist! Philosophy? Bah! Give me the schematic! :)

But I have some affinity for Peirce's view. I would say that I am extremely attached to the belief that everything is a model, no model is "truth", and that one model is no better than another, except to the extent that it allows me to do something practical with it. So I guess I wouldn't object to a quantum mechanical description of how an engine works - provided you could show me the engine you built with it and that it actually runs! :)
 
And news on this? I haven't got my coasters yet, but is the original experiment still planned?
 
Originally posted by Tez
I'm at Imperial College, London, which is in South Kensington, opposite the Royal Albert Hall (about a 5 min walk from Gloucester Road tube station
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I have not read the entire thread, but one thing to look out for is your location in relation to the south and north poles! You are at 51.4991/-0.1773. I am no geographer, but the north pole will surely affect the test more so than the south pole. Oh just ask Roger beforehand for the computations, he must have a chart or something to help out.;)
 
Have the original experimenters decided that this is a waste of time? It has all gone a bit quiet.

By the way Roger, I still have not received the coaster. Have you got your stock yet?
 
Thanks for the coasters Roger. They work just great with wine. and my experiment with plants using the coaster to charge the feeding water is showing quite interesting results!
 
Ah, OK. No need to test them now. Luci says they work. :rolleyes:
(Did you use the double blind protocol, Luci?)
 
Lol! Not if that's what you used in your *ahem* 'guess the book I have put on my head' quiz/experiment/thing.!!

Quad-blinding.

But it can be dangerous without protective headgear.
 
Well, if you wish to make comparisons, my experience from the book test is that you will claim victory when the results show nothing of the sort. On the basis of this, I question your ability to test the coasters effectively.
 
TheBoyPaj said:
Well, if you wish to make comparisons, my experience from the book test is that you will claim victory when the results show nothing of the sort. On the basis of this, I question your ability to test the coasters effectively.
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That's cool.

Now, since you asked about double-blind experiments. Was yours?
 
And so, faced with no way forward but to answer a direct question, Luci clams up.
 
Sorry for the delay in supplying the free coaster for testing, Paj, but we are still awaiting it from the suppliers.
 
Just to say that we have now supplied all the coasters requested, at no charge, and some a good while ago. It seems you have all abandoned any attempt to test the magnetic coasters I supplied free for that purpose against your promise to do so.

Bit disappointing really. Or is the dialogue continuing somewhere else?
 
cogreslab said:
Just to say that we have now supplied all the coasters requested, at no charge, and some a good while ago. It seems you have all abandoned any attempt to test the magnetic coasters I supplied free for that purpose against your promise to do so.

Bit disappointing really. Or is the dialogue continuing somewhere else?
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You also promised to forward intelligible data for your own Harmoniser experiements.

But hey - the last time you promised that was only 1st July...
 
The coaster supplied to me was sent (after some delay) to my work address, which is a school. It arrived during the summer holiday, when no one was around to perform tests.

We have recently arrived back at school, and the tests are planned in the next week or so.

Results when we have them, of course...
 
Hock: I have now responded to the Harmoniser question on the bioelectromagnetics page, q.v. Thanks Paj, I look forward to seeing the protocol and results in due course.

Btw I abbreviate others' pseudonyms for parsimony only, and not in any way as an intended pejorative. Hope you can live with these shortforms.
 
TheBoyPaj said:
The coaster supplied to me was sent (after some delay) to my work address, which is a school. It arrived during the summer holiday, when no one was around to perform tests.

We have recently arrived back at school, and the tests are planned in the next week or so.

Results when we have them, of course...
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People will want to read the article on SkepticReport.
 
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