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Denmark = Venezuela?!


It’s not limited to just one person. Fox News basically tells the Republican Base what they are suppose to believe, what polices they are supposed to support and who to vote for to make that happen. It’s not completely one directional in that they sell the things that their viewers are most willing to buy. The end result is still the same, Fox News effetely becomes the guide to Republican orthodoxy and whatever they push will be what Republican lawmakers end up supporting.
 
It’s not limited to just one person. Fox News basically tells the Republican Base what they are suppose to believe, what polices they are supposed to support and who to vote for to make that happen. It’s not completely one directional in that they sell the things that their viewers are most willing to buy. The end result is still the same, Fox News effetely becomes the guide to Republican orthodoxy and whatever they push will be what Republican lawmakers end up supporting.

True. I did want to say "mind" instead of "views", but decided against that as the incongruous humour wasn't worth sacrificing accuracy for.
 
The real problem is that because of this non-story when I visit my Fox loving in-laws over the holidays they will be going on about how Norway is a failing socialist state, just like Colombia.
 
The real problem is that because of this non-story when I visit my Fox loving in-laws over the holidays they will be going on about how Norway is a failing socialist state, just like Colombia.

I've just got back from visiting Norway. I knew it was expensive beforehand, but even so - I suspect the Norwegians probably consider Switzerland a cheap holiday.

Apparently the top selling car maker in Norway is now Tesla. Which is a sure sign of a failing socialist state.
 
Fox News and its minions effectively control the policy of the most powerful nation on Earth. If anything their importance is underplayed.

I prefer jimbob's version better. But the way I see it is that stupid people will gather around any brilliant object anyway. If it's Fox News or Breitbart or the Evangelic Telethon, it doesn't matter. You have to address that people, not the one who feeds them.

And the problem I see here is mostly Danish officials stooping to reply to that minion's nonsense. Have they no pride? What are they? Trump-like?

Does anyone think that such Fox News' editorial is going to drive down the sales of Lego, Arla or Maersk?
 
Apparently the top selling car maker in Norway is now Tesla. Which is a sure sign of a failing socialist state.

Yes, I agree Norway is really a failing socialist state. Everyone has to keep a close eye on it to see how it evolves during the next years and learn from it. Only thinking how badly they managed the international recession by staying outside the Eurozone when you compare them to Greece!
 
If the purpose of the thread is to criticize "U.S. American" nationalism, then all of your posts have been wildly off topic.

I think it's purpose is to criticise a specific example of "U.S. American nationalism", not the concept in general. It's possible that he's hoping that people will generalise from this specific example, but it's neither clear that he is making that implication nor would doing so be valid.
 
I prefer jimbob's version better. But the way I see it is that stupid people will gather around any brilliant object anyway. If it's Fox News or Breitbart or the Evangelic Telethon, it doesn't matter. You have to address that people, not the one who feeds them.

And the problem I see here is mostly Danish officials stooping to reply to that minion's nonsense. Have they no pride? What are they? Trump-like?

Does anyone think that such Fox News' editorial is going to drive down the sales of LEGO, Arla or Maersk?

FTFY
 
By chance, I just watched the Danish rebuttal on YT.


There's more than one! :)

Good work :) How can anybody be so stupid, or so shameless, as Regan? While keeping a smug smirk on her face, I mean. Or maybe the smirk was just her reflection of how much one can be paid for talking mindless crap?


It's the same smile you can see on Kellyanne Conway, Sarah Huckabee Sanders and other WH employees.
 
I prefer jimbob's version better. But the way I see it is that stupid people will gather around any brilliant object anyway. If it's Fox News or Breitbart or the Evangelic Telethon, it doesn't matter. You have to address that people, not the one who feeds them.

The people you want to address only accept information from Fox and/or similar outlets. Not only do they have their own media outlets presenting them with their own private facts they even their own universities teaching these private facts. Fox News has been shown to be able to direct this mammoth complex of made up “Facts”. Ignore them at your peril.
 
The people you want to address only accept information from Fox and/or similar outlets. Not only do they have their own media outlets presenting them with their own private facts they even their own universities teaching these private facts. Fox News has been shown to be able to direct this mammoth complex of made up “Facts”. Ignore them at your peril.

Murdoch has a strong press in the UK, US and Australia.

I don't think it is a coincidence that all three countries are currently having really bad right-wing dominated politics
 
lomiller said:
The people you want to address only accept information from Fox and/or similar outlets. Not only do they have their own media outlets presenting them with their own private facts they even their own universities teaching these private facts. Fox News has been shown to be able to direct this mammoth complex of made up “Facts”. Ignore them at your peril.

What I said is that those who should ignore them are the Danish officials and the Danish in general. The rest is a local problem. I have enough experience here to know that those who don't watch Fox News also have their own media outlets, their own private facts and that they are equally fanatic, mean, unbearable and wrong.

jimbob said:
Murdoch has a strong press in the UK, US and Australia.

I don't think it is a coincidence that all three countries are currently having really bad right-wing dominated politics

How powerful is this Murdoch dude that he managed to get several countries having the governments they deserve.
 
And if Trish Regan had done 5 minutes of research, she might have come up with something like this:

Denmark McDonalds Employees Earn HOW MUCH? (The Jimmy Dore Show)

Bernie Sanders’ model America: Denmark (CNN)


Notice the many people who stress that, no, it's actually not even socialism ...
 
dann said:
Bernie Sanders’ model America: Denmark (CNN)

There's a trap in Moody's video: he uses current values and financial exchange to declare the hourly salary of McDonalds' employees in Denmark and then he uses purchase parity to compare the "price" of the big mac.

Why didn't he simply compared how many big macs you are able to buy with the hourly salary at McDonald's in Denmark and with the minimum wage in the States (using several states)? I bet the result is not that favourable, if favourable at all.

Without overlooking the clear advantages of being Danish -except for the climate- we shouldn't forget that Bernie is doing politics, that piece of media is doing politics -the same way as Fox News- as well as dann is doing politics.
 
Feel free to ask Mcdonalds Denmark about their wages: https://www.mcdonalds.com/dk/da-dk/...dste-arbejdsplads/arbejdsforhold-og-loen.html
Here you have their prices: https://www.mcdonalds.dk/dkmobile/Kampagner/klassikere_30_kr.html DKK 30 = US$ 4.66
(Some people 'do politics' with facts; others 'do politics' with lies. For some reason, this distinction doesn't seem to be important to aleCcowaN, which is why it is so important to him to stress his abstraction from lies and facts with the phrase 'doing politics'.)
 
Feel free to ask Mcdonalds Denmark about their wages: https://www.mcdonalds.com/dk/da-dk/...dste-arbejdsplads/arbejdsforhold-og-loen.html
Here you have their prices: https://www.mcdonalds.dk/dkmobile/Kampagner/klassikere_30_kr.html DKK 30 = US$ 4.66
(Some people 'do politics' with facts; others 'do politics' with lies. For some reason, this distinction doesn't seem to be important to aleCcowaN, which is why it is so important to him to stress his abstraction from lies and facts with the phrase 'doing politics'.)

Wow, you look so agitated!

Aren't both different ways to measure salaries and prices facts that are hard recorded in the very video you posted? :rolleyes:

The Economist informs that last July the average cost of a Big Mac in the USA was u$s 5.51 while in Denmark it was DKr 30 with an actual exchange rate of 6.36.

If we take the wages informed in the video (how lucky it was 20 u$s an hour, a round number!) that means that a McDonalds' employee can buy 4.24 big macs and hour, while with the federal minimum wage of 7.25 u$s a Usian employee can buy just 1.32 big macs. If we take the highest minimum wage statewide, Washington's, of 11.50 u$s an hour, the figure is 2.09, and with the highest minimum wage citywide of 14 u$s (for large companies), it gives 2.54.

That's the fair comparison. I now realize that the presenter confounded the The Economist Big Mac Index for the ppp for the whole country. When he said that the big mac in Denmark was cheaper when you compare the purchase parity, he was telling that a big mac in Denmark was cheaper at the current exchange rate. In fact 14.4% cheaper.

The real country ppp difference is 19.1% against Denmark, based on 2018 projections from the IMF, hence my suspicion over the values used by the reporter (most European countries -the richest- work that way because of the high indirect taxes, no wonder about that).

In fact the reporter lost an opportunity to make Denmark look even better and the USA look even worse by not using the "how many hamburgers do you buy working an hour in this place" base of comparison.

And I'm glad to say that the gross salary of a crew member at McDonald's in Argentina is ar$18000 a month for about 185 hours of work. With a big mac priced ar$ 75, that gives 1.30 big macs an hour, similar to the federal minimum wage in the USA. Not bad for an economy in crisis.


I wonder, if the economy is doing so well in the USA with this Trump dude, why do they pay such ****** salaries?
 
Wow, you look so agitated!

Aren't both different ways to measure salaries and prices facts that are hard recorded in the very video you posted? :rolleyes:

The Economist informs that last July the average cost of a Big Mac in the USA was u$s 5.51 while in Denmark it was DKr 30 with an actual exchange rate of 6.36.

If we take the wages informed in the video (how lucky it was 20 u$s an hour, a round number!) that means that a McDonalds' employee can buy 4.24 big macs and hour, while with the federal minimum wage of 7.25 u$s a Usian employee can buy just 1.32 big macs. If we take the highest minimum wage statewide, Washington's, of 11.50 u$s an hour, the figure is 2.09, and with the highest minimum wage citywide of 14 u$s (for large companies), it gives 2.54.

That's the fair comparison. I now realize that the presenter confounded the The Economist Big Mac Index for the ppp for the whole country. When he said that the big mac in Denmark was cheaper when you compare the purchase parity, he was telling that a big mac in Denmark was cheaper at the current exchange rate. In fact 14.4% cheaper.

The real country ppp difference is 19.1% against Denmark, based on 2018 projections from the IMF, hence my suspicion over the values used by the reporter (most European countries -the richest- work that way because of the high indirect taxes, no wonder about that).

In fact the reporter lost an opportunity to make Denmark look even better and the USA look even worse by not using the "how many hamburgers do you buy working an hour in this place" base of comparison.

And I'm glad to say that the gross salary of a crew member at McDonald's in Argentina is ar$18000 a month for about 185 hours of work. With a big mac priced ar$ 75, that gives 1.30 big macs an hour, similar to the federal minimum wage in the USA. Not bad for an economy in crisis.


I wonder, if the economy is doing so well in the USA with this Trump dude, why do they pay such ****** salaries?

Look at our president. Is this really that hard of a question to answer?
 

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