You do realize the word "arms" as written in the US Constitution has a very broad definition?
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You do realize the word "arms" as written in the US Constitution has a very broad definition?
tyr_13
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That would depend on what you mean by 'very broad'. Those are not the words I'd use. There are a couple of court cases in the 'What does the 2nd Amendment really say' thread that somewhat deal with the case law around the term 'arms'.
Nunchaku haven't been ruled 'lawful arms' for example, which if I'm remembering correctly one reason they can be basically illegal in New York. Just like several restrictions on knife/dagger designs, and even in some locations swords. Those might just survive because no one with deep pockets are challenging them though.
Point is - there is nothing in the 2nd amendment of the US Constitution being narrowed down to guns.
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Why don't 2nd amendment nuts talk about protecting the right to own and carry swords?
Not sure if they are 2nd amendment nuts, but I heard of people support carrying blades of one type or another. Why do you think they're not doing this?
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Possibly because when the odd sword-crime occurs, all other sword-owners don't have to hear shrieking that they all have blood on their hands.
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Or, maybe, they only care about guns. I venture too guess that if me people carried swords,there would be more stood crimes.
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Perhaps you should found the National Sword Association.
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No, it's because it doesn't make the news. When new restrictions on blades are proposed or argued for, people argue back. You participated in the threads on making it illegal to carry a knife so you already know this.
Down with cooking knives! I still can't take that position seriously from someone with 'thaiboxer' in their name.
There is a new wrinkle in the bill.
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/billdocs/2013-14/Pdf/Bills/Senate Passed Legislature/5956.PL.pdf
It reads in part;
The WA RCW currently says is it illegal (with exceptions) to manufacture a SBR. SB 5956 allows possession, transport, transfer and acquisition but is silent on making or manufacturing. When I first read the bill I assumed that acquire meant by any legal means such as registering/making on the ATF form 1. Some questions were asked after passage so the bill sponsor is trying to obtain opinions from the WA AG and BATFE on whether or not they would consider registering/making a SBR without a license is legal.
I'll have to buy a SBR receiver from a licensed dealer and have it transferred to me on the form 4 instead of making my own on the form 1 if making a SBR without a license is still illegal in WA when the bill becomes law in June.
Ranb
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/billdocs/2013-14/Pdf/Bills/Senate Passed Legislature/5956.PL.pdf
It reads in part;
The WA RCW currently says is it illegal (with exceptions) to manufacture a SBR. SB 5956 allows possession, transport, transfer and acquisition but is silent on making or manufacturing. When I first read the bill I assumed that acquire meant by any legal means such as registering/making on the ATF form 1. Some questions were asked after passage so the bill sponsor is trying to obtain opinions from the WA AG and BATFE on whether or not they would consider registering/making a SBR without a license is legal.
I'll have to buy a SBR receiver from a licensed dealer and have it transferred to me on the form 4 instead of making my own on the form 1 if making a SBR without a license is still illegal in WA when the bill becomes law in June.
Ranb
It appears the BATFE is approving ATF form 1's for making SBR's. I sent in some paper forms a while ago which were rejected because I wrote the check to the US Treasury instead of the BATFE. I re-submitted using their e-file system and should get approval in a month or two. Then I just need to decide where to pencil engrave the AR lower so it is not so fugly.
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Contrary to popular misconception, there are a great many of us who are too lean for such purposes. So I say... please, please, hunt carefully.
I'll be over here... taking cover behind this sapling.
Cover is a nice old growth Redwood.
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I likey.
The other advantage to cans on shorty (10.5 - 11.5) AR platforms is that the extra length of the can allows a bit more dwell time in the extraction/ejection cycle and also increases the amount of time high pressure gas vents into the gas tube - the reason that the Army and other users went to the GI "Sound Moderator" on the early Colt 177's is that they needed a fix for the operating issues encountered with a bare (no moderator) short barrel. The concept was sound, but the mechanical system didn't know it. The original short barrel 177's made better clubs than firearms. Having the gas port so close to the muzzle didn't allow any dwell time in the operating cycle, and it was a rare one that could make it through a 20 round mag without FtF's - cyclic rates were through the roof as well.
A hint though, if you run a .22 LR conversion kit in an AR upper w/ a can, make sure you clean the thing after every shooting session. Even jacketed .22 LR leaves much more crud in the can after use, and if one wasn't keen on cleaning and then goes back to 5.56, unpleasant things can happen to the poor innocent can.
This particular can is not very "cleanable" as it has welded end caps as well as some aluminum baffles; this prohibits ultrasonic and chemical cleaning. I have a dedicated 22lr silencer for the smaller stuff. Unfortunately the end caps are also stuck in place. I'll eventually need to replace it with a sealed all stainless unit in the future; one I can chemically clean and dispose of the hazmat for free in Bremerton. I'm done with taking silencers apart for cleaning. 
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The above barrel and silencer are not a good match especially when using 62 grain green tip ammo. I've put about 8000 rounds through this can over the years, putting it on the rifle of anyone who was interested. It has a 4130 tube, end caps and blast baffle, everything else is 6061 aluminum. I plan on making an all stainless welded core can in a few years after I get 10k rounds through this one. I figure I can make due unless I damage the blast baffle, ruin the threads or bulge the tube.
The gas cutting of the aluminum baffles is plain to see; this happened over the years of using standard ammo, the aluminum is too soft to withstand the heat and pressure. The defects in the front end cap were caused by a person not checking the silencer tight after the first magazine; it loosened causing misalignment. The arrow indicates the larger defect on a baffle that was touching the bullets and making them yaw excessively during my last trip to the range.
I drilled out the last few baffles with a drill bit and cleaned up the end with a reamer. Good for another 2000 rounds I hope. I'll probably replace the barrel with one that has a 1-7 twist to ensure better stability at the lower speeds typical of SBR's.
Ranb
The gas cutting of the aluminum baffles is plain to see; this happened over the years of using standard ammo, the aluminum is too soft to withstand the heat and pressure. The defects in the front end cap were caused by a person not checking the silencer tight after the first magazine; it loosened causing misalignment. The arrow indicates the larger defect on a baffle that was touching the bullets and making them yaw excessively during my last trip to the range.
I drilled out the last few baffles with a drill bit and cleaned up the end with a reamer. Good for another 2000 rounds I hope. I'll probably replace the barrel with one that has a 1-7 twist to ensure better stability at the lower speeds typical of SBR's.
Ranb
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