Demand Koran Replace U.S. Constitution

Lordy, are we still going on about pork dust-coated bullets or whatever? :eek:

And BTW, Harry, you're wrong about corned beef. The problem is the English/Irish idea that the only proper way to prepare food is to boil it. Y'all would probably boil ice cream if you could figure out a way to keep it from melting in the process.

Get your corned beef from a real deli, get some genuine Jewish rye bread - the kind of loaf that has to be sliced right there on the premises - and a jar of brown deli mustard - not the yellow puke, and not the fancy combinations of Dijon/mayonnaise/horseradish - and make yourself a two-inch high sandwich from those ingredients. If you don't find it a delicacy fit for God in Heaven, then you have no reason to live.
 
BPSCG said:
Lordy, are we still going on about pork dust-coated bullets or whatever? :eek:

And BTW, Harry, you're wrong about corned beef. The problem is the English/Irish idea that the only proper way to prepare food is to boil it. Y'all would probably boil ice cream if you could figure out a way to keep it from melting in the process.

Get your corned beef from a real deli, get some genuine Jewish rye bread - the kind of loaf that has to be sliced right there on the premises - and a jar of brown deli mustard - not the yellow puke, and not the fancy combinations of Dijon/mayonnaise/horseradish - and make yourself a two-inch high sandwich from those ingredients. If you don't find it a delicacy fit for God in Heaven, then you have no reason to live.
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Typical American. Attaches supernatural relevance to junk food.
 
BPSCG said:
Lordy, are we still going on about pork dust-coated bullets or whatever? :eek:

And BTW, Harry, you're wrong about corned beef. The problem is the English/Irish idea that the only proper way to prepare food is to boil it. Y'all would probably boil ice cream if you could figure out a way to keep it from melting in the process.

Get your corned beef from a real deli, get some genuine Jewish rye bread - the kind of loaf that has to be sliced right there on the premises - and a jar of brown deli mustard - not the yellow puke, and not the fancy combinations of Dijon/mayonnaise/horseradish - and make yourself a two-inch high sandwich from those ingredients. If you don't find it a delicacy fit for God in Heaven, then you have no reason to live.
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Is that why when I went to the Stage Deli and asked for corned beef on white with extra mayo they chased me out the door?

Just not a corned beef guy. It's not bad (in fact it's pretty good when it's not boiled... just not something I ever crave) but I prefer a roast beef sandwich on a nice deli roll with gravy.

And don't get me started on mustard. If there is a God I curse him for inventing the mustard seed.

And be careful when you say "y'all boil everything". I'm not English or Irish. I'm Puerto Rican. We fry everything.
 
HarryKeogh said:
Is that why when I went to the Stage Deli and asked for corned beef on white with extra mayo they chased me out the door?
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No. They chased you out the door because they got in trouble with the NYC Department of Health when the last guy who ordered that got his head cut off and hung from a hook just outside the entrance. Seems there are regulations restricting where you can hang a guy's decapitated head, even if he ordered corned beef on white with mayo. Consider yourself lucky.

It's true! :)
 
CFLarsen said:
Typical American. Attaches supernatural relevance to junk food.
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Typical European. Can't stand anyone else having a good time. Especially when that person doesn't give a whit what the European thinks. Enjoy your jellied mackerel or whatever it is you animals call food.
 
Andrew makes an intuitive and succinct case for the role of psyops in the context of this discussion. Here is a virtual help wanted ad describing the job opening(s) for a U.S. Army Officer employed in this field. More at the goarmy.com URL below.



Psychological Operations (PSYOPS) in the Army covers a wide variety of functions in the Army. A PSYOPS Officer conducts operations to convey selected information and indicators to foreign audiences. The goal is to influence the emotions, motives, objective reasoning, decision-making abilities and ultimately the behavior of foreign governments, organizations, groups, and individuals. PSYOPS officers assess target audiences, develop PSYOPS campaign plans, programs and products, coordinate for the dissemination of PSYOPS products, and synchronize PSYOPS activities into strategic, operational and tactical peacetime and combat operations. PSYOPS officers must maintain critical knowledge and skills associated with a specific region of the world to include foreign language expertise, political-military awareness, and cross-cultural communications.

A PSYOPS Officer requires an in-depth knowledge of the art and science of persuasion and influence. They need an ability to interact with host-nation military and civilian officials, the general population, detainees, enemy prisoners of war (EPWs), displaced civilians (DCs), and internees. A PSYOPS Officer possesses a working knowledge of the political and cultural trends and attitudes in a variety of foreign countries, practical understanding of the social psychology and individual and group psychological dynamics that expose information voids in foreign populations, and executing advertising and marketing campaigns meant to create favorable results for the supported unit or organization. Many times PSYOPS Officers have to understand how to operate PSYOPS unique equipment to insure the right message is developed, produced and disseminated at the right time and place.

The responsibilities of a PSYOPS Captain may include:
  • Commanding and controlling PSYOPS operations and combined armed forces during ground combat.
  • Coordinating employment of PSYOPS Soldiers, actions and activities at all levels of command, from battalion through brigade to division, in U.S. unilateral, joint and multi-national operations.
http://www.goarmy.com/JobDetail.do?id=309
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Jocko said:
Typical European. Can't stand anyone else having a good time. Especially when that person doesn't give a whit what the European thinks. Enjoy your jellied mackerel or whatever it is you animals call food.
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Grow a sense of humor.

SteveGrenard said:
Andrew makes an intuitive and succinct case for the role of psyops in the context of this discussion. Here is a virtual help wanted ad describing the job opening(s) for a U.S. Army Officer employed in this field. More at the goarmy.com URL below.
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That's nice.

How will you prevent Jews from inhaling pork dust?

Why is using a religiously based method of extracting information not torture?

What are you going to with the pork bullets, if not shoot them at people?

If you are not going to kill someone, why are you suggesting shooting pork bullets against them?

If you don't think that they would end up in Paradise, why are you using pork to fight them?

Why don't you write a proposal based on what you have suggested here, and have it published in a newspaper or something?

Have you found out if dispensations are handed out individually and not for groups?
 
CFLarsen said:
They can't eat it.
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But unintentionally inhaling particles is not eating. In fact they probably inhale such particles all the time as it is; air is full of stuff from all over the place. With few exceptions, if it's not visible and you can't taste it, it doesn't exist in Jewish dietary law.
 
I've found an interesting Islamic site that offers advice on aspects of Islamic teachings (and no there is no one asking about "pork bullets") and I found this interesting answer in regards to selling pork: http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/...h-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503546044

As I stated earlier given this amount of flexibility regarding pork and Islam it is inconceivable that "pork bullets" would have any deterrent effect.
 
David Swidler said:
But unintentionally inhaling particles is not eating. In fact they probably inhale such particles all the time as it is; air is full of stuff from all over the place. With few exceptions, if it's not visible and you can't taste it, it doesn't exist in Jewish dietary law.
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If you wade into a dust cloud, you are bound to get a nasty amount of pork into you.
 
Jocko said:
No wonder those loveless bastards push so hard for legal drugs and euthenasia. If I had to face that menu every day, I'd spend every waking moment on escapism, too.
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Plus at least one of them thinks inhaling = eating, so they probably consider smog, diesel fumes, and airplane glue food.
 
BPSCG said:
Plus at least one of them thinks inhaling = eating, so they probably consider smog, diesel fumes, and airplane glue food.
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I'll have to check my copy of Gray's Anatomy, but I'm pretty sure that the lungs and stomach are separate organs. Then again, Claus has already demonstrated how easily he can juxtapose other body parts, such as his head and his @$$.
 
I have edited your post to add numbers to each of your questions which correspond with my responses below the quote.


CFLarsen said:
1.How will you prevent Jews from inhaling pork dust?

2.Why is using a religiously based method of extracting information not torture?

3.What are you going to with the pork bullets, if not shoot them at people?

4.If you are not going to kill someone, why are you suggesting shooting pork bullets against them?

5.If you don't think that they would end up in Paradise, why are you using pork to fight them?

6.Why don't you write a proposal based on what you have suggested here, and have it published in a newspaper or something?

7.Have you found out if dispensations are handed out individually and not for groups?
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1. I won't. Although gas masks come to mind, even disposable light weight surgical type or painter's masks would work. Jews are only prohibited from eating pork. Any kind of dust which is inhaled is also prevented from being absorbed by the mucous coated epithelial tissue lining the naso and oropharynx and tracheobronchial tree.Inhaled particulates are attacked and enveloped by gobs of mucus and expectorated. Search "muco-ciliary clearance. '

2. Hmm ... you are talking about prisoner's being tortured here since you say we are trying to extract information from them? I agree this may be torture. However you are confusing being an active combatant and being a prisoner-combatant. This type of PSYOP is being suggested for use against active combatants, not prisoners under interrogation.

3. & 4. A wad of pork fashioned as a bullet not to be fatal. A real bullet treated with pork matter may be fatal but the point of the exercise is not to have to use real bullets if the enemy would surrender or walk away under threat of a pork based weapon. You still don't seem to grasp this.

5. What I think about them entering paradise or hell is irrelevant. I dont accept the existence of either. It is what I think they think that is important. Another distinction you fail to grasp.

6. Because I am satisfied enough to discuss the idea here. After all I have my greatest critic on board to provide feedback. What more could I ask?

7. No.
 
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Jocko said:
I'll have to check my copy of Gray's Anatomy, but I'm pretty sure that the lungs and stomach are separate organs. Then again, Claus has already demonstrated how easily he can juxtapose other body parts, such as his head and his @$$.
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Check it again. You might discover that saliva doesn't end up in the lungs.
 
Darat said:
I've found an interesting Islamic site that offers advice on aspects of Islamic teachings (and no there is no one asking about "pork bullets") and I found this interesting answer in regards to selling pork: http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503546044

As I stated earlier given this amount of flexibility regarding pork and Islam it is inconceivable that "pork bullets" would have any deterrent effect.
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Again I must state you nor anyone here can possibly know this.If any kind of non-lethal pork based dispersal or weapon or even a disinformation campaign designed to advertise its use can save lives on either side of a muslim vrs non-muslim conflict then I say its worth trying.
 
I'll have to check my copy of Gray's Anatomy, but I'm pretty sure that the lungs and stomach are separate organs. Then again, Claus has already demonstrated how easily he can juxtapose other body parts .....
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to which Claus replies:


CFLarsen said:
Check it again. You might discover that saliva doesn't end up in the lungs.
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Saliva is not an organ. Where's that laughing dog? Seriously: inhaled particulate matter doesn't wind up in the saliva or the lungs. It winds up enveloped by mucus and moved out of the respiratory tract by muco ciliary clearance and expectorated although it is obviously possible to swallow mucus instead of spit it out. This would clearly be beyond one's control and allowable under the rabbinical despensation for a life or death situation.

Like any aerosol weapon the Israelis should not launch it at themselves but at their enemy and wear protective gear to prevent themselves from inhaling any of the powder that might waft their way.
 
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