Deeper than primes

[The Man]

A far more useful paradigm shift then OM.

First we have “IN”
Then we have “OUT”
Often we also have things “SHAKING ALL ABOUT”
Finally this can result in the tendency for one to “TURN YOURSELF AROUND”
And “THAT’S WHAT IT’S ALL ABOUT”

I call this the Hokey Pokey Theory of Everything and is often explicitly demonstrated at weddings.

 

[doronshadmi]

Please demonstrate specifically how anyone is “actually doing OM in their daily life” other then your typical bogus and baseless assertions that everything essentially results from “doing OM”.

You are a complex system The Man.

Doron you still have not shown how you expect your OM to accomplish this other then to simply make people so ignorant that such “future development based on Current Mathematics” is beyond their understanding.

OM exposes your ignorence about Complexity right at the core of the current mathematical science ( http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5008114&postcount=5726 . Some example: please see the first part of http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5010420&postcount=5782 ).

 

[The Man]

You are a complex system The Man.

So you’re not even going to try to answer the question, how surprising.

 

[doronshadmi]

A far more useful paradigm shift then OM.

First we have “IN”
Then we have “OUT”
Often we also have things “SHAKING ALL ABOUT”
Finally this can result in the tendency for one to “TURN YOURSELF AROUND”
And “THAT’S WHAT IT’S ALL ABOUT”

I call this the Hokey Pokey Theory of Everything and is often explicitly demonstrated at weddings.

This is some result of a complex system that is not aware of its complexity.

 

[doronshadmi]

So you’re not even going to try to answer the question, how surprising.

Doron you still have not shown how you expect your OM to accomplish this other then to simply make people so ignorant that such “future development based on Current Mathematics” is beyond their understanding.

OM exposes your ignorence about Complexity right at the core of the current mathematical science ( http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5008114&postcount=5726 . Some example: please see the first part of http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5010420&postcount=5782 ).

Answer was given, you do nothing in order to get it, so?

 

[doronshadmi]

The Man,

Even this:

Let us translate it to OM.

Diversity is exactly the result of localities that are compared with each other by non-locality.

As a result we get a non-trivial complexity, which is fundamentally open and therefore incomplete (= as true as we can get).

is beyond your mind.

 

[The Man]

This is some result of a compplex system that is not aware of its complexity.

Complexity is only the result of the Hokey Pokey Theory of Everything and awareness is an integral part of that complexity, otherwise someone would be shaking it all about when they are suppose to be turning themselves around. It is clear that you lack the dance perception required to comprehend the fundamental nature of the Hokey Pokey. Some dance perception training would be in order as you use the HPTE in your daily life but are not aware of it.

 

[The Man]

Answer was given, you do nothing in order to get it, so?

You have been advised before about significantly altering your posts without proper indication of what you have changed and the fact that I will simply not enable such juvenile behavior on your part.

 

[doronshadmi]

Complexity is only the result of the Hokey Pokey Theory of Everything and awareness is an integral part of that complexity, otherwise someone would be shaking it all about when they are suppose to be turning themselves around. It is clear that you lack the dance perception required to comprehend the fundamental nature of the Hokey Pokey. Some dance perception training would be in order as you use the HPTE in your daily life but are not aware of it.

Why are you talking to yourself?

 

[Apathia]

Originally Posted by Apathia
Their 'existence" isn't taken into account.

You are wrong.

Please this time do not jump on the first part of http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5010420&postcount=5782 .

That snippit you quoted was about ordinary mathematical reckoningn not OM.
There's a serious language barrier here and more, since my question didn't register at all.

I don't know what the first part of post 5782 is or how I jumped on it.

 

[doronshadmi]

You have been advised before about significantly altering your posts without proper indication of what you have changed and the fact that I will simply not enable such juvenile behavior on your part.

The reality is a serial slide show, isn't it The Man?

 

[doronshadmi]

Originally Posted by Apathia
Their 'existence" isn't taken into account.




That snippit you quoted was about ordinary mathematical reckoningn not OM.
There's a serious language barrier here and more, since my question didn't register at all.

I don't know what the first part of post 5782 is or how I jumped on it.

Please read this:

Thank you Apathia, you have fine view.

Let me add some details:

By using Direct Perception I show that from one hand Standard Math does not ignore Complexity in order to distinguish between
S members (S={ {{}}, {{a}}, {{a,b}}, {{b}}, ... , {{a,b,c,...}}, ...}), and on the other hand it ignores Complexity when Cardinality is measured.

For more details, please see http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4972511&postcount=5578 and http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4984812&postcount=5603.

By OM we simply aware of these facts and do our best in order to not be based on hidden assumptions that may lead us to wrong generalizations.

 

[The Man]

The reality is a serial slide show, isn't is The Man?

"Side show" would be more accurately descriptive of your "direct perception" of "reality" Doron.

 

[The Man]

Why are you talking to yourself?

Ah so do do recognize the resemblance of that post to the majority of yours, excellent.

 

[doronshadmi]

Ah so do do recognize the resemblance of that post to the majority of yours, excellent.

No, it is funnier. You, The Man, are talking to your own ignorance and you are ignorant about it, on the same time.

 

[doronshadmi]

"Side show" would be more accurately descriptive of your "direct perception" of "reality" Doron.

In your The Man trivial world,The Man, I know.

 

[ddt]

The bogus of the knowledge of Complexity can be found right at the foundations of the current body knowledge of the mathematical science (again, please look at the first part of http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5010420&postcount=5782) and the result is devastating especially in our crucial times of deadly imbalance between Ethics and Logical reasoning (look out of your window and see Iran, Northern Korea, etc … , and then think about anti-matter bomb (some near future development based on Current Mathematics) at the hands of some small group of terrorists, etc …).

Wow. I thought this was about mathematics. Oh, and when I look out of my window, I see Germany. That's scary too, isn't it?

As to your anti-matter bomb based on "Current Mathematics": shows at least that the math works, doesn't it? What kind of bombs can you make based on OM?

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I thought so.

 

[The Man]

No, it is funnier. You, The Man, are talking to your own ignorance and you are ignorant about it, on the same time.

See you did recognize the intended resemblance to your own posts.

 

[sympathic]

The bogus of the knowledge of Complexity can be found right at the foundations of the current body knowledge of the mathematical science (again, please look at the first part of http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5010420&postcount=5782) and the result is devastating especially in our crucial times of deadly imbalance between Ethics and Logical reasoning (look out of your window and see Iran, Northern Korea, etc … , and then think about anti-matter bomb (some near future development based on Current Mathematics) at the hands of some small group of terrorists, etc …).

Doron: what about developing a malicious virus that could wipe out the entire human race? last time I checked biologists do not use Maths. Do you plan for OM to replace Biology as well?

Also, let's assume you are correct and adopting OM will not let us build atomic bombs, and will only allow us to do useful and harmless things; how are you going to prevent "bad" people from using "Standard Math" for their malicious actions? do you plan to wipe out all Mathematical knowledge from the minds of all of us?

And just so you know, nuclear research has some positive aspects as well, for example Nuclear power, a very clean and relatively inexpensive source of energy. It is not about what you can do with Math - it is about what your agenda is.

 

[The Man]

Wow. I thought this was about mathematics. Oh, and when I look out of my window, I see Germany. That's scary too, isn't it?

Unfortunately I only see NY when I look out my window.

As to your anti-matter bomb based on "Current Mathematics": shows at least that the math works, doesn't it? What kind of bombs can you make based on OM?

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I thought so.

What? Doron has been bombing all over this thread and the entire internet for that mater with his OM? OM simply seems most and only effective at blowing itself to pieces.