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realpaladin said:
Agree, or no deal! You are so infinitely sure about yourself!
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Be careful, realpaladin. You are trying to deal logically with someone that can't distinguish among if A then B and A if B and A if and only if B. He also has no problem taking A and not A as a true-valued formula.

It's those super direct perception skillz....
 
doronshadmi said:
No ____ is not defined, has, made, etc ... by points.

You failed at your first baby staps, in order to get OM.
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Do you know what a point is?

Btw. just so you do not think to agree and then get away with it... if you agree I am first going to verify everything about your identity.
 
jsfisher said:
Be careful, realpaladin. You are trying to deal logically with someone that can't distinguish among if A then B and A if B and A if and only if B. He also has no problem taking A and not A as a true-valued formula.

It's those super direct perception skillz....
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Are you still here with your local-only view?
 
realpaladin said:
Do you know what a point is?

Btw. just so you do not think to agree and then get away with it... if you agree I am first going to verify everything about your identity.
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realpaladin said:
Great. So what we first do is make sure there is no way you can get away with it.

PM me your details.
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You are talking too much, start working.
 
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Doron, you know what. You can have it. I concede.

I get berated by the mods too much as it is, and I am feeling I am sliding into the dark-side here again....

:)
 
zooterkin said:
You seem to be really hung up on this one.

Are you really unable to understand that it's possible to talk about a range of numbers on the real line, e.g. [3,5], without having to identify each individual one? Do you really not get it?
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It is not about range of numbers etc ...

It is about the essential difference between 1-dim element and 0-dim element (or a collection of 0-dim elements and a 1-dim element).

Exaclty because of the limitations of "range of numbers on the real line" the Mathematical Science misses the real notions that can be found in http://www.geocities.com/complementarytheory/OMDP.pdf .

Why are you so happy to be limited by "range of numbers on the real line"?
 
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realpaladin said:
I...must...not... sorry, can not...resist....

Does that community have infinite or finite number of members?

Or does it consist of (<world-population>-1) members.
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realpaladin,

Thank you for the Repititon idea, you helped me to improve my understanding of OM.
 
realpaladin said:
I...must...not... sorry, can not...resist....

Does that community have infinite or finite number of members?

Or does it consist of (<world-population>-1) members.
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Currently it has too much members, but we are working on this problem.
 
doronshadmi said:
jsfisher,

You can add realpaladin to your obsolete community.
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In what way is it obsolete? Our stuff works; yours doesn't. Our stuff has practical applications; your stuff has none. Our stuff is founded in reality; your stuff is founded in mysticism and fantasy.
 
doronshadmi said:
It is not about range of numbers etc ...

It is about the essential difference between 1-dim element and 0-dim element (or a collection of 0-dim elements and a 1-dim element).
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But why do you keep bringing up in situations when it is not relevant?


Exaclty because of the limitations of "range of numbers on the real line" the Mathematical Science misses the real notions that can be found in http://www.geocities.com/complementarytheory/OMDP.pdf .

Why are you so happy to be limited by "range of numbers on the real line"?
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In what way is an infinite amount of real numbers between two points 'limiting'?
 
zooterkin said:
But why do you keep bringing up in situations when it is not relevant?
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It is most relevant to our own survival, which is a notion that you still don't get.

zooterkin said:
In what way is an infinite amount of real numbers between two points 'limiting'?
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It limiting the notions that can help us to survive the power of our own technologies, because the current Mathematical education artificially disconnects between our ethical cognitive skills and our logical\technological skills, exactly where it is mostly needed (during the real-time work of the researcher).


Zooterkin, please try to read http://www.geocities.com/complementarytheory/OMDP.pdf in order to really understand how a simple thing like the difference between a point and a line, can be used in order to develop a long term "agreement" (smooth communication) between Complex systems (living or not).
 
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doronshadmi said:
It is most relevant to our own survival, which is a notion that you still don't get.
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Then please explain. How have we survived so long?

It limiting the notions that can help us to survive the power of our own technologies, because the current Mathematical education artificially disconnects between our ethical cognitive skills and our logical\technological skills, exactly where it is mostly needed (during the real-time work of the researcher).
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Again, please give a real example of what OM can do that conventional maths cannot.
 
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