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doronshadmi said:
You have missed this:

For the last time:

What is the difference between a single endless line (where only a 1-dim is considered) and a single line segment?


jsfisher has failed to get it.
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As expected, you have concluded incorrectly.

Any way you helped me a lot to improve my paper http://www.scribd.com/doc/21967511/TOC-NEW2
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Good for you! And since that delights you so, I have more good news: You have left yourself plenty of opportunity to improve your paper even more.
 
doronshadmi said:
You have missed this:

For the last time:

What is the difference between a single endless line (where only a 1-dim is considered) and a single line segment?


jsfisher has failed to get it.
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You have missed this:



The Man said:
I wasn’t answering your question Doron, just pointing out your continuing ignorance of the location of a line segment and locations along a line that in fact make it one dimensional.
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doronshadmi said:
Any way you helped me a lot to improve my paper http://www.scribd.com/doc/21967511/TOC-NEW2
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I doubt anyone but you would consider it improved.
 
doronshadmi said:
What is the difference between a single endless line (where only a 1-dim is considered) and a single line segment?
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Let’s see if we can find Doron’s answer to his own question.


doronshadmi said:
A line can be also a closed curve (for example: a circle that has no single point along it).


A line segment can be also a closed curve (for example: a circle that has a single point along it).
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From these two assertions it would seem Doron considers at least one difference to be that his “single endless line” “has no single point along it” while his “single line segment” has at least “a single point along it”. If that is essentially what you intended to be your inescapable answer Doron, it is binding only for you.
 
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The Man said:
Sorry js, did I ruin the end of the movie for you?
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No, I'm still trying to figure out what sort of answer Doron would have provided to his own question. He was fishing for something. He thought he was being extra clever with all those extraneous qualifiers on the term, line, boxing in the admissible responses with Doron-like precision. I really do not know what preposterous answer he wanted, though.
 
The Man said:
wasn’t answering your question Doron, just pointing out your continuing ignorance of the location of a line segment and locations along a line that in fact make it one dimensional.
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We do not need anything along a single endless line, in order to make it one dimensional, and this is exactly where your abstract ability fails.
 
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jsfisher said:
Why are you pointing out an article on metaphysics? Had you actually read the first page, you may have noticed the author saying this:
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It means that Mathematics generally fails to adress Zeno's paradoxes from a metaphysical sense.

Here is the full quate:
"I would like to point out at this stage that my contention is not with the mathematics of the particular solutions—I am sure that they
are correct just as I have no doubt that such mathematical advance will find appropriate uses, for example in making a jet go faster.
What I wish to show instead is that no metaphysical sense can be made out of mathematical sense and any claim to the contrary is
unjustified. And further that any resolution to Zeno’s paradoxes, if it is to “hit the point”, must indeed make metaphysical sense."
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and another one:
"Why mathematical solutions fail. These and other attempts at resolving Zeno’s paradoxes may make perfect mathematical sense and yield equations that are of great use in that domain. Nevertheless, in metaphysical terms they do not even scratch the surface of the problem which was at the heart of Zeno’s formulation of his paradoxes: the impossibility to conceptualise the passage from One to Many."
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We are in a phylosophical forum here, in case that you have missed it.
 
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The Man said:
From these two assertions it would seem Doron considers at least one difference to be that his “single endless line” “has no single point along it” while his “single line segment” has at least “a single point along it”. If that is essentially what you intended to be your inescapable answer Doron, it is binding only for you.
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Move on The Man, we are not there anymore.

The current question is:

What is the difference between a single endless line (where only a 1-dim is considered) and a single line segment?
 
doronshadmi said:
We do not need anything along a single endless line, in order to make it one dimensional, and this is exactly where your abstract ability fails.
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Nevertheless, there are still points all along the line whether you refer to any particular one or not.
 
zooterkin said:
Nevertheless, there are still points all along the line whether you refer to any particular one or not.
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In that case we are talking in terms of segments, and not in terms of a single endless line (where only 1-dim is considered).


So, what is the difference between a single endless line (where only a 1-dim is considered) and a single line segment?
 
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doronshadmi said:
In that case we are talking in terms of segments, and not in terms of a single endless line (where only 1-dim is considered).
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There you go again. The points don't disappear because we are not using them.

I can't help thinking this is one of your stumbling blocks. We indicate a particular point on a line that we are interested in. What you don't seem to understand is that we are choosing it, not creating it.
 
zooterkin said:
There you go again. The points don't disappear because we are not using them.

I can't help thinking this is one of your stumbling blocks. We indicate a particular point on a line that we are interested in. What you don't seem to understand is that we are choosing it, not creating it.
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What you don't seem to understand is the concept of building-blocks that stand at the basis of a given complex result.

A single endless line is a building-block (Non-locality).

A single point is a building-block (Locality).

A single line segment or infinitely many points along a single endless line is a complex result of Non-locality\Locality Linkage, such that no complex result is a building-block (and vice versa).
 
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sympathic said:
When you think you are mentally strong enough to endure contemplating the possibility you may be wrong, please let us know.

By the way - I do not expect this to happen anytime soon.
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When you think you are mentally strong enough to read somthing that is beyond your academic nose (http://www.scribd.com/doc/21954566/NXOR-XOR and http://www.scribd.com/doc/21954904/UP), please let me know.

By the way - you can add http://www.scribd.com/doc/21967511/TOC-NEW2 too.
 
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doronshadmi said:
When you think you are mentally strong enough to read somthing that is beyond your academic nose (http://www.scribd.com/doc/21954566/NXOR-XOR and http://www.scribd.com/doc/21954904/UP), please let me know.

By the way - you can add http://www.scribd.com/doc/21967511/TOC-NEW2 too.
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All of us read all of your material. You asked for criticism - it was given to you. You can not handle the consequences. And by the way, your "monkey" like behavior of taking someone's post and directing them back at them is counterproductive in presenting yourself as someone who is capable of creative thinking.
 
doronshadmi said:
The current question is:

What is the difference between a single endless line (where only a 1-dim is considered) and a single line segment?
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No, that's not the current question at all. We have all these prior questions in which you need to explain your word salad, Doron.

How does "a single endless line" differs from just "a line"? In what sense are you using the word, single, and why is it significant in this context? In what sense are you using the word, endless, and why is it significant in this context? How does "a single line segment" differs from "a line segment"? In what sense are you using the word, single, and why is it significant in this context?

What, exactly, do you mean by "a 1-dim" and how does it differ from "1-space"? Is the indefinite article just more gibberish? Did you really mean just "one dimension"? In any case, since lines are inherently one dimensional, what purpose did your parenthetical remark serve?

In short, why have you taken what looks like it might have been the relatively clear sentence, "What is the difference between a line and a line segment?", and obscured it so with gibberish?

These are the current questions.
 
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