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Death..

Hokulele said:
Heh, I have always seen the Christian concept of god as being like those people who spend 90% of their time in a relationship whining, "Prove to me you love me."
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And why spend your eternity in close proximity to obsequious fan-boys? Celebrities wear dark glasses for a reason. I would have thought the creator of the laws of physics would get fairly bored with people who consistently offer to lick your shoes, whilst Carl Sagan and Bertrand Russell trade philisophical ponderings in their breaks from pushing boulders up hills down below.
 
Nice link, articulett. :3

Rodney said:
Every great religion proclaims the Oneness of God.
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Just like all true scotsmen... I mean, all true Christians are the real Christians?
 
Hell doesn't look too bad. You can even leave your car door open:

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Unless you can figure out a way to leave the universe death is probably an improvement on liveing past the big rip.
 
XxDeadlyNinjaxX said:
I fear Death more than most things.

The problem with me is I doubt there is a God but then yet I am afraid of what if i am wrong and there is a God and a Hell? Then I am damned to Hell for because skeptical.

I was wondering if anyone could help me with this problem of mine.
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Attack the problem head on. Does it really make sense someone would torture you for ever and ever because you didn't believe it existed?

That this creature makes your torture conditional on believing without proof, and deliberately so?
 
This is actually a recognized phobia (Hadephobia), so don't feel bad. We all have phobias. The hard thing about this one is there's no real way to face your fear (personally, I used to be terrified of flying, but not so much since I went on a plane last year). So instead, look at it rationally, as others have pointed out: many religions condemn you to hell for doubting, so there is no way to "beat" hell by committing yourself to one or the other (you'll always doubt whether you picked the right one). Instead, look at how unlikely it would be for a God who created all this (and our ability to think rationally about it) to torture people for eternity because they got a little too skeptical.
 
I think they claim the oneness of god to appeal to the popularity of belief-- everyone can pretend to believe in the same invisible guy, even though they all have different beliefs about what rubric he wants you to follow to get the goodies in the afterlife.
 
I would have thought that god, (christian) would be more likely to punish you for not using your god given intelect, to arrive at the only logical conclusion, that he doesnt exist, than for believing he does. Despite no evidence. In fact inspite of evidence.
I would magine that endowing your highest creation with with its greatest attribute and seeing it abused would piss you off somewhat.
 
Rodney said:
You're not damned to Hell for being skeptical per se, you're only damned to Hell if you're an irrational-Randi-Forum-type-skeptic. ;)
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You know, the last time someone told me I was going to Hell I responded thusly: "Great! It'll finally be my chance to get away from it all and work on my tan... sizzle!" :D
 
XxDeadlyNinjaxX said:
I fear Death more than most things.

The problem with me is I doubt there is a God but then yet I am afraid of what if i am wrong and there is a God and a Hell? Then I am damned to Hell for because skeptical.

I was wondering if anyone could help me with this problem of mine.
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Even if there were a God, why do you assume there is also a hell, and that said God would damn you to hell for being skeptical?

Wouldn't it suck if you believed in a God because of your fear, only to die and end up sent to hell because God only wants skeptical people in Heaven?
 
Hokulele said:
If there is a god who would damn people to eternal torment just for using their brain, it doesn't sound like an entity I would want to spend time with anyway.
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On the one hand, fire and brimstone.

On the other hand, an eternity of obsequious groveling so monotonous it would make a billion choruses of "100 bottles of beer on the wall" seem like a thrill ride on the dark side of the moon by comparison:

"When we've been there
10,000 years
Bright shining as the sun
We've no less days to sing God's praise
Than when we first begun."

So, six of one, half a dozen of the other.
 
XxDeadlyNinjaxX said:
The problem with me is I doubt there is a God but then yet I am afraid of what if i am wrong and there is a God and a Hell? Then I am damned to Hell for because skeptical.
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What if there is a god, and he will send you to hell if you don't eat an olive every day?

On what basis would one decide that the biblical god is more (or less) likely to exist than the one I just described?
 
Dismissing God and the heaven/hell deal because it sucks, is not a sound reason.
That would be like ignoring cold weather because it shouldn't happen in the first place.

There could be an awful god, and being with him for eternity, boring and humiliating as it was, still beat eternal suffering.

A loop hole around the fear, initially, could be a hope for luck...that even though you're an atheist, and you die and discover it isn't over, you somehow get out of the hell deal because you get lucky.
 
quarky said:
Dismissing God and the heaven/hell deal because it sucks, is not a sound reason.
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Unless God is supposed to be omnibenevolent.

Or, unless you're willing to admit that, a being more powerful than the universe itself, PROBABLY doesn't care about these pathetic life forms on a distant rock that have been around for a bare sparse second of cosmic time.
 
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