Dean's comments on pickups, confederate flag, spark controversy

corplinx said:
I take it the Dukes of Hazzard was a racist program with the car "the General Lee" with the Confederate flag on top and a horn that played dixie?

Its hard to fathom how a group of loud mouthed advocates have taken an innocuous symbol of the south and turned it into something hateful and wrong.

The sons of black confederates who meet in this area fly it with pride.
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Well its not like Bo and Luke Duke hung out wh black folks. Did they even have blacks on the Dukes??

It was the racists that turned the flag into a hate symbol.
 
American said:
It mainly offends rich liberals more than it offends any single black person. (Some people have lives...)
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I'm sure you can show evidence for this. Or is it your fantasy?
 
American said:
It mainly offends rich liberals more than it offends any single black person. (Some people have lives...)
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Puleez!!! All blacks, and minorities are offended by the damn flag. Sure you can trump out the Black Confederates, what % of the population do they represent.

I can find ex-vets who will burn the US flag in protest, that does not equal "all vets are OK with flag burning."

If you pull up to some watering hole and see the rebel flag prominately displayed, it sends a clear message.

The U of Missisippi (no stangers to racism) even dumped the flag as a logo cause it was hurting their image and recruiting.
 
Tmy said:


Puleez!!! All blacks, and minorities are offended by the damn flag.
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I havent known any blacks or minorities who were offended by the flag.
 
Tony said:



I havent known any blacks or minorities who were offended by the flag.
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Have you ever asked if they were offended??? All that flap over the GA. State flag, was that just liberal white poeple???
 
Tmy said:


Have you ever asked if they were offended???
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No, why should I really care? If they were offended they would say something.

All that flap over the GA. State flag, was that just liberal white poeple???

That was spearheaded by NAACP black supremicists.
 
Tmy said:


Well its not like Bo and Luke Duke hung out wh black folks. Did they even have blacks on the Dukes??

It was the racists that turned the flag into a hate symbol.
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Wasn't the sherrif from the neighboring county a big touch black guy?
 
hgc said:
They don't count as black people?
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No, they are racist subhumans who are tarnishing the reputation of decent black folk.
 
BJS said:


Wasn't the sherrif from the neighboring county a big touch black guy?
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Yeah, the guy from Cickasaw county. Were the Dukes were afriad to go........hmmm makes you think what they were getting at. Of cousre the Dukes of Hazzard was a show that glorified a couple of unemployed ex-con scofflaws.


Tony,
Just because someone doesnt complain doesnt mean they are not offended.

The damn flag has been around over 100yrs, so many blacks dont bother to complain cause that hasnt really worked for over a century.
 
You guys have all missed the issuse here, though being of the Marxist bent I have picked up on it.

Dean is declaring class warfare.

Clss warfare operated under the ideology that we are all more united by economic class than any other thing.

This is whaty Dean is saying, he wants to unite the underprivaliged of all strpies against the wealthy elite establishment.

This has nothing to do with race, but 99% of Americans are too stupid to understand what Dean is really doing here so they are going to bicker and ruin his attempts to help them.

This si my first real clue that Dean actually is a Marxist at heart :D

Unfortuantely America does not feel united by class, becuase for the past 50 years the American establishemrnt has tried to destory class identity, but Dean appears ready to now bring the class struggle to the table. Good for Dean, Go Dean! :D
 
Tony said:


No, they are racist subhumans who are tarnishing the reputation of decent black folk.
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Tony's decent black folk = they keeps their mouths shut and don't stir up no trouble.
 
Malachi151 said:

This is my first real clue that Dean actually is a Marxist at heart :D

Unfortuantely America does not feel united by class, becuase for the past 50 years the American establishemrnt has tried to destory class identity, but Dean appears ready to now bring the class struggle to the table. Good for Dean, Go Dean! :D
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As a Dean supporter, let me just say..."not helping."
 
IMO, it isn't south vs north or black vs white.

The problem is rural vs urban; see the GWB counties vs Gore counties for example. And the rift seems to be widening.

On the rural side, middle america (the haves), who think the individual is responsible for his own fate, and who would like the (pre-eminent) US to lead the world;

vs

the urban side, have-nots & have-it-alls who think society -- not the individual -- is the problem for an individual's ills, and who think the future lies in UN/One-World.
 
hgc said:
Tony's decent black folk = they keeps their mouths shut and don't stir up no trouble.
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I wouldn't expect you to wrap your small mind around my complex opinion.
 
VicDaring said:


As a Dean supporter, let me just say..."not helping."
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I agree... I think Dean can do without a Marxist endorsement, thank you very much...

And anyway, the shoe doesn't fit...

Speaking up for the less well-off does not equal Marxism. That's a straw man I'd expect to hear more from the opposition.
 
Howard Dean:

-Born in New York City
-Raised in East Hampton, New York
-Governor of the softest, left-most state in the continental US

... tells the Dixie men he wants to represent them.


Reminds me of when Rick Rubin, a quintessential Long Island Jew, told the Black Crowes to call themselves the "Kob Kounty Krows". (K.K.K. in the spirit of Southern Rock..)

The Robinson brothers were not amused.
 
hammegk said:
IMO, it isn't south vs north or black vs white.

The problem is rural vs urban; see the GWB counties vs Gore counties for example. And the rift seems to be widening.

On the rural side, middle america (the haves), who think the individual is responsible for his own fate, and who would like the (pre-eminent) US to lead the world;

vs

the urban side, have-nots & have-it-alls who think society -- not the individual -- is the problem for an individual's ills, and who think the future lies in UN/One-World.
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Sounds SPOT ON to me...
 
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