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David Shayler debunks self

Newtons Bit said:
It's really nothing special though. If you go through enough generations, everybody is related to everybody. Ghengis Khan is said to be the ultimate father of something like 0.5% of the entire world....
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Try this - you have 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 great-grandparents, 16 great-great-grandparents etc etc.
Go back enough generations and you'll have more ancestors than the total population of the world at the time. Therefore, everyone *must* be descended from Ghengis Khan (and, for many of us, Isaac Newton)

Hi cousin !
 
GlennB said:
Try this - you have 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 great-grandparents, 16 great-great-grandparents etc etc.
Go back enough generations and you'll have more ancestors than the total population of the world at the time. Therefore, everyone *must* be descended from Ghengis Khan (and, for many of us, Isaac Newton)

Hi cousin !
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Whoa... Do you realize what this means? This could only mean that trillions of human beings spontaneously popped into existence some many thousands years ago and the population has been dwindling ever since. You can't argue with the math!
 
chipmunk stew said:
Whoa... Do you realize what this means? This could only mean that trillions of human beings spontaneously popped into existence some many thousands years ago and the population has been dwindling ever since. You can't argue with the math!
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I love the flaw in the logic of this. It's a fun one :)
 
Stellafane said:
What the hell is happening with the 9/11 CTers lately? They all seem raving, purple-veined crazy, and/or are 15 year old kids. It was hard to imagine the thruthers going downhill (they started out pretty low to begin with), but against all odds they seem to be doing it.
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I have noticed this as well.

I think its due to the original theories being shown to be absurd and you either save face and see your mistakes then and there or delve even deeper to the well of crazy.

The CTer, whos sole ambition is to attract attention to themselves to help elevate self importance in their drab boring lives, lends themselves to even more extreme and radical scenarios.

Life is more fun when your in your own personal Jame Bond sequel. To combat debunking, just add a new twist (eg: I am a reincarnation of Adolf Hitler) in the movie plot.
 
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uk_dave said:
It's a scary time to be a David in the UK.....
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I dunno, apart from Icke and Shayler I'd say at least three of us are sane.

uk_dave said:
...... for I am the son of light and upon my breath the heralds of a thousand demons shall perish like butterflies in the torrent of a summer storm.
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... OK, maybe two.

Dave
 
O . . . K . . .



No sudden moves.





Just back away slooooowwllly.




Keep smiling.





Do nothing to provoke him.






What? Shayler? Oh, I was talking about the Marquis.
 
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Wait, wait...let me see if I understand this.

This David Shayler character is ex-MI5, a truther and the UK movement's most prominent voice?

And now he's a no-planer who thinks he's God?

Do I have that right?
 
CHF said:
Wait, wait...let me see if I understand this.

This David Shayler character is ex-MI5, a truther and the UK movement's most prominent voice?

And now he's a no-planer who thinks he's God?

Do I have that right?
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Yes. Personally, I blame the giant shape-shifting alien space lizards.
 
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=10579&sid=28d3fd36a0b1554364f590b9bf9e94cd

Lots of skunk and flyagaric mushrooms certainly help me when trying to unblock my emotional log jams and find the truth about 9/11.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks Watcher for your astute report.

No Thermate, this is certainly not the Glasto vibe, Dave was already planning last night's revelations whilst still in Bristol & Totnes, with those closest to him struggling to dissuade him, but to no avail, q.e.d..

This actually has been coming on for a very long time; I observed the beginnings of it last year when Dave was living under my roof. He was doing a lot of skunk and trying to clear up some massive internal emotional log-jam with the aid of mushrooms & a plant, can't remember their names, something beginning with A. He had issues going back to infancy which in fairness he was trying to deal with but kept getting distracted by psychic experiences (induced by the drugs) and of course the relationship with Annie was on the rocks too. It was immediately clear why: he lacked basic consideration for those around him, he was undisciplined, physically lazy and slovenly, in stark contrast to Annie, who is ultra-considerate, disciplined and a very hard worker as we all know.

To give David the benefit of the doubt though (despite everything I remain very fond of him and eternally respectful of his bravery in exposing the machinations of the secret state), the less attractive personal behaviours including the aggression if challenged (I soon learned not to!!) could well have been the beginnings of the psychosis; I've seen similar symptoms in my own schizophrenic daughter & fellow-patients with long-term mental illnesses. And I have to say I roundly blame the skunk and possibly the other substances for turning what yes, was very probably the beginnings of a spiritual awakening in the best sense into something sadly more mundane and pathological.

Well there it is: my view is that Dave needs rest and care and as little of the oxygen of publicity for his grandiose self-perceptions as can be arranged, or not arranged - for his own and everyone else's good he shouldn't be on platforms at the moment, at least yesterday's performance will have clarified that.

Holy, enlightened, Messianic, etc. is as holy, enlightened & Messianic does! It takes sometimes years of discipline and patient work on the self to achieve genuine spirituality, which then manifests as quiet power, attunement to people and to nature, delightful humour and a marked lack of any form of self-aggrandisement.

In the meantime, the best resource of any aspirant on the path, better than mushrooms, mantras or meditation etc. comes from working together with others, preferably those with a similar bent or a common goal, and from LISTENING, learning and looking out for each other. So I hope that Dave when he comes out of this (as I sincerely hope he will, he's a hugely worthwhile person as we all know) will put team-working and sensitivity to others much higher up his scale of priorities.

For the moment though he’s a sick member of our community who needs our love and care to help him recover, and those immediately involved in looking after him need to be supported too.
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David Shayler - the guy that kept being trotted out for the quote of the day on UK television news?

Admittedly this was probably back in the '90's, but... that guy?
 
Yeah him, ex MI5 "whistleblower", he was in the limelight for a while when he ran off to France and wouldnt return to face the consequences of his actions.
He found 9/11 cts to suit his self aggrandisement since then.
 
Pipirr said:
David Shayler - the guy that kept being trotted out for the quote of the day on UK television news?

Admittedly this was probably back in the '90's, but... that guy?
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Yes that guy, the traitor who betrayed the trust his nation had put in him in order to sell a few books.

Sheller the jumped up filing clerk at the Security Service (“MI5”) who discovered that in eth 60’s and 70’s many people who later became Cabinet Ministers were members of leftwing organisations which the Security Service infiltrated. David Shayler who wrote about this revelation, and liked the publicity and so started making more and more incredible “revelations” about what eth security service got up too.
David Shayler that eventually started spouting no plane nonsense and JFK CT’s.

This is the bottom of along slope for this disgraceful human being, who was always much more interested in his own fame, ego and money than in truth.
 
At least that report shows what is the most parsimonious explanation - he is doped out of his tiny mind currently, and is not holding his tish together.
 
To this day I don't understand why he got so much airtime. He was treated like an expert opinion, from what I remember. Hopefully not anymore.
 
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