Darlie Routier

Ampulla of Vater said:
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The bruising, to me, is consistent with self infliction. The most logical place for self-bruising would be the surfaces of your skin you can slam onto surfaces.
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This. And the bruising would begin to show while she was in hospital. It did not. (And she should have had Darin put a big hand bruise on her shoulder on the opposite side of the neck prick to show that someone held her down and tried to slice her throat - but then, Darlie and Darin lacked only Moe to be the three stooges.)
 
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This. And the bruising would begin to show while she was in hospital. It did not. (And she should have had Darin put a big hand bruise on her shoulder on the opposite side of the neck prick to show that someone held her down and tried to slice her throat - but then, Darlie and Darin lacked only Moe to be the three stooges.)
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This is an interesting detail I wasn't aware of. It has been awhile since I read up on the case facts but I don't remember reading a timeline of the bruising. I am off to investigate this now. Thank you!
 
There is an interesting website about the Darlie Routier case at:

https://criminal.media/darlie-routier-innocent-or-guilty

Another interesting aspect of Darlie's story? Look at what the Prosecution considers to be superficial wounds. Examining the pictures myself, I must say the wounds don't look particularly minor, nor do they appear easily self-inflicted.

While everyone has their own opinion, placing someone on Death Row isn't a minor thing. If someone is put on Death Row, or generally imprisoned, or placed in any sort of legal limbo, the evidence ought to be strong. Also, a case should not rely simply on whether someone is perceived as missing the deceased thoroughly enough.

By itself, the birthday party footage is the flimsiest of circumstantial evidence, no better than hearsay. If the jury sentenced Routier to death on that alone, they clearly made the wrong decision.
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There is a fairly recent website about the Darlie Routier case which makes sense to me:

https://www.thoughtco.com/death-row-inmate-darlie-routier-971035

Questions her defense team want answered:
A bloody fingerprint was found on the living room table. Who does it belong to?
There was a bloody fingerprint on the door of the garage. Who does it belong to?
Darin Routier's jeans had blood on them. Whose blood is it?
A pubic hair was found in the Routier living room. Who does it belong to?
How did the blood on Darlie's nightshirt get there and whose is it?
Did the police get debris on the knife in the kitchen while investigating the murder or did it come from the screen door?
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There is another website which casts fresh doubts in the Darlie Routier case as well as explaining the background to the case:

https://killertruecrimes.wordpress.com/2015/06/30/darlie-routier-innocent-or-guilty/

But: Is Darlie Innocent?

In all fairness, Darlie Lynn Routier, despite some extremely damaging evidence, may be innocent, say many. A special televised episode of 20/20, entitled “Her Flesh and Blood,” which aired on February 3, 2000, examined and updated the Routier case materials and found, among other things, that the jury may not have been shown photographs of bruises on Darlie’s arms (which strongly indicated she fought off an intruder) nor the complete transcript of the court proceedings from which to make a final verdict. Indeed, the transcript that they did review contained, upon latter examination, 33,000 errors and omissions. As well, the audio tapes they heard were incomplete.

One juror came forth to admit he was peer-pressured into a guilty vote. On the televised program, he claimed he never saw the above-mentioned photos nor was the jury shown the police surveillance version of Devon’s graveside birthday party that showed Darlie and her family sincerely grieving over the children.
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Henri. Beating. Dead. Horse.

Even the last DNA she won did not exonerate her, and again pointing to her guilt.


Her mother held a rally a few days ago to support Darlie, and about 8 people showed up.
 
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Henri. Beating. Dead. Horse.

Even the last DNA she won did not exonerate her, and again pointing to her guilt.


Her mother held a rally a few days ago to support Darlie, and about 8 people showed up.
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I half-suspect the husband had something to do with it somehow. Darlie Routier did not get a fair trial. Justice must seem to be done as well as seen to be done.
 
There is a website on the internet with some silly remarks about the Darlie Routier case, which also mentions the Amanda Knox case and JonBenet Ramsey case:

http://solvingjonbenet.blogspot.com/2018/07/the-impossible-darlie-routier-case.html

DocGJuly 29, 2018 at 12:19 AM
Sorry, but I can't get past the very serious throat wound, which could easily have killed her. The police concluded early on that is was "superficial," but it most certainly was NOT. That wound in itself speaks very strongly for her innocence.


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CCJuly 28, 2018 at 7:41 PM
How 'bout Darin as the perp? At least he had a credible motive: Darlie was insured for $250K, he had financial problems, and Darin had committed insurance fraud in the past.
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DocGJuly 28, 2018 at 11:56 PM
Yes, CC, good thinking. There are some very good reasons to suspect Darin. I'll be going into that possibility in my next post.
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Darlie is so obviously innocent I am surprised there is an alternate view.
Sinsaint has gone into prodigious detail, and she knocks the other sisters on thread into a cocked hat.
 
There is an interesting website about the Darlie Routier case which expresses doubts and inconsistencies about the case:

https://www.thoughtco.com/death-row-inmate-darlie-routier-971035

Web sites that support Darlie Routier's appeal list many issues and facts that have come to light after her trial that, if true, would appear to provide enough evidence that a new trial would be appropriate. Some of those issues include:

The attorney that represented Darlie Routier at trial had an apparent conflict of interest, because he reportedly had a pre-arrangement with Darin Routier and other family members not to pursue any defense that could implicate Darin. This attorney allegedly stopped key experts for the defense from completing forensic examinations.

Other areas of concern which were never brought to the attention of the jury include the pictures of Darlie's cut's and bruises on her arms which were taken when she was hospitalized the night of the murders. At least one juror told reporters he would never have voted to convict if he had seen the photographs.

Bloody fingerprints have been found that do not belong to Darlie, Darin, the children or any of the police or other people in the Routier house the night of the murder. This contradicts testimony given during her trial that there were no fingerprints found outside the home.

Questions her defense team want answered:
A bloody fingerprint was found on the living room table. Who does it belong to?
There was a bloody fingerprint on the door of the garage. Who does it belong to?
Darin Routier's jeans had blood on them. Whose blood is it?
A pubic hair was found in the Routier living room. Who does it belong to?
How did the blood on Darlie's nightshirt get there and whose is it?
Did the police get debris on the knife in the kitchen while investigating the murder or did it come from the screen door?

Darin Routier has admitted to trying to arrange an insurance scam, which included someone breaking into their home. He has admitted that he had begun the initial steps to arrange a break-in, but that it was to be done when no one was at home. No jury has heard this admission.

The incriminating Birthday Party film that was viewed by the jury showed Darlie dancing on the graves of her son along with other family members, but did not include the filming of the hours previous to that scene when Darlie sobbed and grieved over the graves with her husband Darin. Why was the additional footage not shown to the jury?

Neighbors reported seeing a black car sitting in front of the Routier home a week before the murders took place. Other neighbors reported seeing the same car leaving the area on the night of the murders. Were these reports investigated by police?

Investigators during her trial invoked their fifth amendment rights against self-incrimination during cross examination, preventing the defense from rebuting their testimony. What did these investigators fear by being cross-examined?

There was discussion of the police not protecting the evidence as they collected it which could have possibly damaged it's origins. Did this really occur?
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There are still lawyers who are working on behalf of Darlie Routier:

https://darlieslastdefense.com/aboutus/

This website is maintained by Steve Cooper and Richard Smith, two of the attorneys who have worked on Darlie Routier’s case in the years after her 1997 trial. Steve and Richard are both pro bono, meaning that neither of them gets paid for the work they do on Darlie’s behalf. They do so because of their strong belief that Darlie is innocent of the crime for which she was convicted, and that her death sentence is a miscarriage of justice.

Steve and Richard both agreed to be interviewed for the ABC television documentary series The Last Defense, which told Darlie’s story in four hours of prime time television starting on June 12, 2018. Due to the renewed interest in the case generated by the series, Steve and Richard thought it would be helpful to have a website where the public could view the evidence and make up their own minds about Darlie’s guilt or innocence.
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