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Dancing in public while black

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Summer's here, but police in Alameda, CA are evidently not ready for a brand new beat.

ALAMEDA, Calif. (KGO) -- Body camera footage released to the ABC7 I-Team shows an unarmed black man handcuffed and pinned to the ground by Alameda police after reports of him "dancing in the street."

"I do this every day... please let me go," said Mali Watkins, a 44-year-old martial artist. "I was just dancing."

It was May 23, before 9 a.m. on a Saturday.

In an exclusive interview, Watkins told ABC7 he was handcuffed and pushed around by police for an hour. Here's a clip of the body camera footage prior to police handcuffing Watkins.

Neighbors who witnessed the arrest pleaded for police to release him.

"Hey... he's from around here, he exercises every day, we know his routine, he didn't do anything wrong," said Robert Davidson, a neighbor.

"We were all like, why is this happening?" said Watkins.

The footage that first surface on social media has prompted an outside investigation of the Alameda police officers facilitating Watkins' arrest.

Alameda City Manager Eric Levitt released the following statement Tuesday:

"Based on an initial review, a full outside investigation is being requested by the Police Chief. I concur with his decision fully. While it has not been determined at this time whether it violated policy upon initial review, it does not represent my values that the Police Department needs to respect and serve our community with trust and without bias."

Watkins, who had not done anything illegal, was eventually released - after being cited for resisting arrest. Because we obviously don't got nothing on him but we're still going to give him a rap sheet and a fine out of sheer petulance.
 
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Summer's here and the time isn't right for dancing in the street...


I'm not sure.

Tokyo, South America, Australia, France, Germany, UK, Africa
(…)
They're dancing in Chicago
Down in New Orleans
In New York City
(…)
Philadelphia, PA
Baltimore and DC now
Don't forget the Motor City
On the streets of Brazil
Back in the USSR
(…)
Way down in L.A., everyday
Crossin' China, too, me and you


I can see why the cops didn't get it since Alameda isn't mentioned specifically, but they do say that:

Don't matter where you are
Everywhere, around the world


 
And once again despite obvious video coverage of police harassment of an innocent person, we have the mealy mouthed pussyfooting administration saying "it's under investigation, and the scumbag cops making sure that his objection to being detained for doing nothing wrong goes down as "resisting arrest." No doubt there will be a wrist slap and it will all blow away again, because every time I ask myself "how stupid does stupid have to become before it's too stupid to tolerate" is answered...stupider than this.

And I bet (though I'm willing to eat those words and hope I do) that in the end one thing that we will not see is those cops apologizing. We may get a mush-mouthed equivocal regret from the city, but I bet the cops in question will be too high and mighty and full of wrathful holiness to say something simple like "sorry, we acted badly."
 
Summer's here, but police in Alameda, CA are evidently not ready for a brand new beat.



Watkins, who had not done anything illegal, was eventually released - after being cited for resisting arrest. Because we obviously don't got nothing on him but we're still going to give him a rap sheet and a fine out of sheer petulance.
I’m guessing the newsreader got the facts wrong when she says that Watkins was not arrested, but later by mail, received a citation for resisting arrest.
WTAF America?
 
Need to make a list of all the things Black People can't do without getting the police called on them, but I think it'd almost be faster to make a list of the things that won't get the police called on them at this point.
 
Forgive my ignorance but in the US does citation mean rock up to the local court and get a fine, or is it more serious where you get on your criminal record etc?
 
Forgive my ignorance but in the US does citation mean rock up to the local court and get a fine, or is it more serious where you get on your criminal record etc?

A "citation" is a written record charging you with an offense. It could be a traffic ticket, but they are also used for actual crimes, such as "resisting arrest".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_citation


The concept of "resisting arrest" is abused incredibly in the US. It basically means doing anything at all that the policeman doesn't like.

Body cams and cell phone cams are (mostly) a good thing. Before them, in a case like this, it would have been the cops words versus his.
 
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The interesting thing is that the news report has unedited audio of the phone call that reported the man. The voice is very clear. People will know who did it, assuming it was someone who saw the incident from her house. It's possible it was someone who was driving past the area or was visiting, but I would think it would be someone who lived in the area.

In the video he can be heard saying "Let go of me" and he is not meekly accepting that he is going to be arrested. This is what has been deemed "resisting arrest" in America, and that is a major problem. When did we become a land where the police could arrest someone without a charge? He was "resisting arrest", but there was no crime. There was no reason for an arrest.

What was it? Suspicion of public intoxication? Suspicion of mental illness? I get that the woman was freaked out, but calling the police because someone is dancing in a residential street?

But I cut citizens a lot more slack than the cops. She was weirded out, and probably racist, but she's an amateur. She saw a strange man. She did something stupid. The cops, though, are supposed to be professionals. They should be able to assess the situation. "Sir, you are dancing in the street."
"Yeah?"
"Oh....uhhh….be careful."

I wonder if it will make tomorrow's protests? Maybe people will start dancing to show solidarity with the guy.
 
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The interesting thing is that the news report has unedited audio of the phone call that reported the man. The voice is very clear. People will know who did it, assuming it was someone who saw the incident from her house. It's possible it was someone who was driving past the area or was visiting, but I would think it would be someone who lived in the area.

In the video he can be heard saying "Let go of me" and he is not meekly accepting that he is going to be arrested. This is what has been deemed "resisting arrest" in America, and that is a major problem. When did we become a land where the police could arrest someone without a charge? He was "resisting arrest", but there was no crime. There was no reason for an arrest.

What was it? Suspicion of public intoxication? Suspicion of mental illness? I get that the woman was freaked out, but calling the police because someone is dancing in a residential street?

But I cut citizens a lot more slack than the cops. She was weirded out, and probably racist, but she's an amateur. She saw a strange man. She did something stupid. The cops, though, are supposed to be professionals. They should be able to assess the situation. "Sir, you are dancing in the street."
"Yeah?"
"Oh....uhhh….be careful."

I wonder if it will make tomorrow's protests? Maybe people will start dancing to show solidarity with the guy.
Tend to agree.

We don't know the callers personal circumstances. Nutter. Racist. Just living alone and paranoid.

The cops are supposed to be professionals and a large part of their jobs is supposed to be evaluating situations and threat or just innocent behaviour.
 
I firmly believe that before you can charge with "Resisting Arrest" you should have to have a charge that you can actually arrest for. If you can not articulate a valid law and charge for an arrest, then the person you are trying to illegally detain should have every right to resist that illegal arrest, and Judges should be throwing any such charges out instantly. And any cop that arrests purely for resisting arrest should be drummed out of the force.
 
Tend to agree.

We don't know the callers personal circumstances. Nutter. Racist. Just living alone and paranoid.


... Out-of-towner? One of the witnesses says that he's "from around here." Unlike the Central Park Karen with the dog, she doesn't claim to be threatened or that the 'culprit' is any kind of threat. When reasons for his behavior are mentioned, substance abuse or mental illness, she says "either one".
She mentions that he is African-American, but she doesn't mention that as her reason for wanting the police to interfere. Is there reason to assume that she wouldn't have made the call if she had seen an Anglo-Saxon, Latin American or Asian person dancing in the street?
There's one thing missing that I would have liked to see: footage of the man dancing! Let's face it: It is unusual behaviour, but there is probably not a law against unusual behaviour. Does he actually dance in the street and not on the sidewalk? Why? Can it be described as jaywalking? Is he in danger of being hit by a car? (If he were, I guess the witnesses from the neighborhood wouldn't be as relaxed about it as they are.)

The cops are supposed to be professionals and a large part of their jobs is supposed to be evaluating situations and threat or just innocent behaviour.


He does resist arrest. There is probably no category in the law for resisting totally uncalled for arrest, but he doesn't seem to be arrested for dancing in the street but for resisting arrest. Throwing him to the ground the way they do seems to be excessive use of force, however.

- - - -

OK, there actually is footage of him 'dancing in the street'. I have seen the first video (4:39), and he is in the parking zone of the street, so he is not obstructing traffic or endangering himself. It does look a little weird, and I can see why the police stop and talk with him to find out what is going on. It escalates only when he tries to leave before they have finished questioning him.
I can see why he is upset about being questioned, but on the other hand, their way of addressing him and their questions are all very polite. They don't seem to address him differently from how (I imagine) they would have addressed somebody white.

In my opinion, the dancing man could have deescalated the situation by staying put and answering the questions when the police were doing their job of "evaluating situations and threat or just innocent behaviour." On the other hand, after the George Floyd footage I can also see why he might me more upset about a confrontation with the police as a black man than if he had been white.

VIDEO: Alameda Police Release Body Cam Footage Of Black Man’s Arrest For Dancing In Street (CBS SF BayArea, June 6, 2020)
 
When I first saw this, I was wondering whether there might be some traffic-blocking or jaywalking angle to the initial arrest. For the record, as far as I can tell despite not being a lawyer nor living in California: There isn't. Dancing in the streets in California should be completely legal, as long as the pedestrian is properly yielding to traffic and not dancing in the middle of an intersection. Unless someone else knows of a law or statute that I don't?
 
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Summer's here, but police in Alameda, CA are evidently not ready for a brand new beat.



Watkins, who had not done anything illegal, was eventually released - after being cited for resisting arrest. Because we obviously don't got nothing on him but we're still going to give him a rap sheet and a fine out of sheer petulance.

He should've stopped dancing and explained what he was doing instead of doing whatever he was doing that made the officer think he needed to be arrested and then fighting back.

Thank God he didn't die from COVID.
 
A "citation" is a written record charging you with an offense. It could be a traffic ticket, but they are also used for actual crimes, such as "resisting arrest".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_citation


The concept of "resisting arrest" is abused incredibly in the US. It basically means doing anything at all that the policeman doesn't like.

while being arrested. If you're not being arrested, you can't be resisting it.
 
He should've stopped dancing and explained what he was doing instead of doing whatever he was doing that made the officer think he needed to be arrested and then fighting back.


What are you on about? He did stop dancing, and he did explain what he was doing.
 

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