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Cupp: The Self Hating Atheist?

yomero said:
I see your point, and you are right. Adolf Hitler exemplifies how a charismatic leader can lead his society to evil without relying on religion. I don't think it fair to propose that Nazism was a religion. If we atheist reject the idea that "atheism is just another religion", we shoudn't accept the same for Nazism. My feelings about MLK are similar to yours.
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The thing is that it is probably wrong to classify the Nazi's as being either a religious or purely secular party. They had a mythology that pervaded some of the party and at least parts of it extended to the party as a whole.

While it might be more questionable on a personal level, Stalin was at least officially secular and not religious, certainly not religious in the way some mysticism pervaded parts of say the SS for example. So to some people it does seem as if there was a Nazi religion, others seemed to still be good Christians and Nazi's at the same time.
 
Tsukasa Buddha said:
S. E. Cupp has been on my radar for a while. She has appeared numerous times on Fox News promoting her new book on the media's attack on Christianity... The selling point is that she is an atheist.
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What sort of atheist is so morally depraved as to appear on Fox?

We're much better than that.
 
It feels like a scam - she drew the short straw and became their pet atheist - she has to do it for two years and then she'll be let back in the club.
 
I happened across Ms. Cupp whilst surfing YouTube. My initial thoughts were that she sounds like a duck and walks like a duck, but she ain't no duck! After watching a few of her interviews it appears that she has a few stock 'atheistic' phrases that she trots out repeatedly in order to convince us/her that she really doesn't believe. What clinched it for me [that she ain't no duck] was when she lauded George W. for relying on a higher power and that one day she wanted to be a believer.

It seems she's found an unusual way of selling a book.



My apologies for resurrecting a two year old thread, she didn't strike me as important enough to start a new one.
 
Atheist pokes Christians with a stick. Christians poke back.

In other news the sun rose at 6.18am today
 
Tsukasa Buddha said:
S. E. Cupp has been on my radar for a while. She has appeared numerous times on Fox News promoting her new book on the media's attack on Christianity... The selling point is that she is an atheist.

Linky.

Now this could go in Social Issues or Politics, but I wondered what others made of her atheism.

She says she isn't a 'militant atheist', is envious of people of faith, wouldn't elect an atheist for President, and doesn't believe in god "for now" or "yet".

Interestingly, she shows the same behaviour towards evolution. In her book, she makes a case for intelligent design, but says she believes in evolution.

I'm not interested in psychoanalysing her, but I wonder if this is the "non-militant" or "non-angry" atheism people (believers) seem to want? Because I can't make heads or tails of it.
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the denial of miltant atheism to me is funny. Denial being what is funny.
 
Yeah, I've run into about a thousand Christians who say they "used to be atheists" and yet don't understand the first thing about atheism (impressive, as there's only one thing to understand). It doesn't surprise me that one of them is willing to actually pretend to be an atheist for a little while to try to make the story sound more authentic.
 
Irony said:
Yeah, I've run into about a thousand Christians who say they "used to be atheists" and yet don't understand the first thing about atheism (impressive, as there's only one thing to understand). It doesn't surprise me that one of them is willing to actually pretend to be an atheist for a little while to try to make the story sound more authentic.
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It does seem pretty suspect that this woman says she is an atheist but wishes she were not. Call me gullible if you like, though, but for some reason if somebody says they don't believe an invisible bleeding person and his mother are staring at them at all times, I just have such a hard time thinking they're faking it. Intellectually I'm sure it happens all the time, but deep in the gut of my irrationality it's so hard to wrap my head around somebody saying, "This is clearly all made up" publicly, and then going home and secretly saying "Hey Jesus, I think they fell for it!"

By the way, Irony, how much do you want to bet that a life of devotion to Durga is not in store for Ms. Cupp?
 
Ms. Cupp is like unmarried George Clooney. She's a highly eligible dreamboat, and she holds out the hope to fervent Christians everywhere that, in their naive fantasy, each of them might be the lucky one to bring her to Jesus. She's out there proclaiming her availability, and the suckers are lapping up her deliciousness. Clever lady.
 
This is an atheist?

If you want to make your ears bleed, listen to this interview with Cupp done on the Christian Broadcasting Network.

Try not to laugh as she repeatedly states how Christian America is complacent.

And I must have missed the memo that states liberal = atheist. The way she makes it sound the two are the same thing.

 
"Hollywood has always been hostile to religion"

Can someone tell me when hasn't Hollywood produced "pro religion" movies?
 
Darat said:
"Hollywood has always been hostile to religion"

Can someone tell me when hasn't Hollywood produced "pro religion" movies?
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Lets be honest, you cannot escape the religious hostility in movies like The Sound of Music & The Ten Commandments. :)

The Vatican even created a list of 45 great films in 1995. Not all the films are from the U.S. but it shows the ridiculousness of her point.

Let us not forget Cupp has a show on GBTV. I have difficulty taking anyone associated with Glenn Beck seriously.
 
Mark R said:
And I must have missed the memo that states liberal = atheist. The way she makes it sound the two are the same thing.
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Did you miss the memo that she's a straw target for Fox News? Liberal == atheist == terrist == commie mutant traitor.
 
Achán hiNidráne said:
Faux News promoting this bitch is all I need to know.

Ms. ****.. I mean Cupp...is not an atheist. She never was an atheist. She's willing liar for the Rethuglicans/Christian Reich/Tea Baggers out to make a few bucks while promoting American fascism.

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Edited for Rule 10.
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See also, "I used to be a libertarian/objectivist/anarcho-capitalist but realized huge government was something you would pray for if you really understood it."
 
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Oh, another one of those self-congratulatory people.

See, she has the "reason" of the atheists, but the open-mindedness and loving care of Christians. Since she's so open-minded, obviously every observation she makes about this has to be correct.
 
So she's kind of like those "Muslims" that the Islamophobia industry trots out to testify about how dangerous Islam is.
 
I'd never heard of S. E. Cupp prior to reading this thread. But then I tend not to watch Fox News or The 700 Club. My impression is much the same as others commenting here. She strikes me as a shill who has found a way to sell books to conservative Christians by being "that enemy who says that we're right".
 
Mark R said:
If you want to make your ears bleed, listen to this interview with Cupp done on the Christian Broadcasting Network.

Try not to laugh as she repeatedly states how Christian America is complacent.

And I must have missed the memo that states liberal = atheist. The way she makes it sound the two are the same thing.

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What a load of crap. The media understands that there is a variety of religious thought. But people like Gordon Robertson don't like the fact that their particular variety of thought is viewed as weird by the majority of Americans. Thus, they rationalize this as an "attack". Sarah Palin thinks that the world is 6000 years old, that dinosaurs and people lived together, and that the Rapture is just around the corner. Given that most Americans are bemused by such ideas, how could the news media not comment on something like that. They are, after all, out to make money.
 
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