Crop circle debunking help needed

[chuck4842]

Crop circles in a forest?

I know right? Wiki needs an upgrade, take your complaints to them. This area is remote. That means to me, not many bored college students.

 

[Stray Cat]

Does crop stomping kill snails?

http://www.xstreamscience.org/Tawsmead_Snails/tawsmead_snails_1.htm

Did you read Rodney Ashby's conclusion?

To answer your question; Yes stomping will kill snails, if you put enough pressure onto any living thing with your foot on a plank it'll die... but that's not really your question is it?

As Ashby points out;
"The absence of any remains within the shells was curious but not inexplicable. Natural causes could be responsible. The nematode hypothesis is plausible and would also explain the rapid decomposition of the molluscs."

 

[Stray Cat]

Ok, what if we add fog, and wiki description of the area as being a forest.

Well obviously the large area with a lush crop of wheat growing in it isn't a forest is it.

 

[chuck4842]

Did you read Rodney Ashby's conclusion?

To answer your question; Yes stomping will kill snails, if you put enough pressure onto any living thing with your foot on a plank it'll die... but that's not really your question is it?

As Ashby points out;
"The absence of any remains within the shells was curious but not inexplicable. Natural causes could be responsible. The nematode hypothesis is plausible and would also explain the rapid decomposition of the molluscs."

You'd think there was another example, not just this formation. I guess Tawsmead has the monopoly on sensitive snails

 

[chuck4842]

Well obviously the large area with a lush crop of wheat growing in it isn't a forest is it.

It isn't, the area is so remote, only a group of college students could find it.

 

[23_Tauri]

Ok, what if we add fog, and wiki description of the area as being a forest.

What are you talking about now? The crop circle was in a field of crop. The clue's in the name, Sherlock. The crop circle is named after a nearby feature, Tawsmead Copse.

Note: copse = a thicket of small trees.

 

[Akhenaten]

Crop circles in a forest?

I know right? Wiki needs an upgrade, take your complaints to them.

No, you don't appear to know right at all.

I don't have any complaints that I wish to direct at Wiki. I wanted to know what you meant by crop circles in a forest.

This area is remote. That means to me, not many bored college students.

Which is relevant because ______________________ ?

 

[Akhenaten]

What are you talking about now? The crop circle was in a field of crop. The clue's in the name, Sherlock. The crop circle is named after a nearby feature, Tawsmead Copse.

Note: copse = a thicket of small trees.

Oh, is that what he's on about? Thank goodness for your witchy translating skillz.

 

[23_Tauri]

It isn't, the area is so remote, only a group of college students could find it.

Remote? Only yesterday you were telling us all how teensy weensy littl' ol' England is. So small that it would only take a dog and a few motion detectors to keep tabs on all those beastly circlemakers.

ETA: and I see you're still obsessed with this idea that crop circles are made by bored, stoned, drunk teenagers. I'm sure this lot (professional artists) would be fairly dismissive of your opinion.

 

[23_Tauri]

I suppose this is where witches rear their beautiful heads.

That's UFOs (witches) of course.

 

[Stray Cat]

Obviously since you can't make it with no errors from the comfort of your own home while sitting on your arse, with lights, and a computer.

Sorry I thought you'd realise that's all I could possibly do.
We don't do live demonstrations in fields in January.

As for the missing grapeshot, I've already explained that. If you want to make a big deal out of it, that's fine. I've shown how the apparent complexity of the overall formation is easy to plot out.

Are there any errors in the formation made by humans at night you'd like to point at?

This particular formation?
I've already mentioned the messy grapeshot and the uneven rounded corners in the inner design shape. If you want other examples of other formations with mistakes, yeah sure, there are plenty I can point out.

The silliest mistake is this one;

The makers miscounted the tramlines when they started and ran out of field.

Another less noticeable one is this where the people tasked with adding the fishes eye stomped them at the bottom of the head instead of the top;

Or this, where just one segment which was supposed to be flattened, was left standing;

This mistake was corrected the next night.

 

[chuck4842]

Which is relevant because ______________________ ?

I thought we ruled out everybody else. Are you suggesting the farmers did it?

What are you talking about now? The crop circle was in a field of crop. The clue's in the name, Sherlock. The crop circle is named after a nearby feature, Tawsmead Copse.

Note: copse = a thicket of small trees.

Vision my dear Watson, vision is important while creating a complex formation in a farmers field at night while he sleepeth.

Remote? Only yesterday you were telling us all how teensy weensy littl' ol' England is. So small that it would only take a dog and a few motion detectors to keep tabs on all those beastly circlemakers.

ETA: and I see you're still obsessed with this idea that crop circles are made by bored, stoned, drunk teenagers. I'm sure this lot (professional artists) would be fairly dismissive of your opinion.

I stick by that statement, I didn't say however that there's not a dark place in all of England. So what's your point?

 

[Stray Cat]

You'd think there was another example, not just this formation. I guess Tawsmead has the monopoly on sensitive snails

The thing about rare things is that by their very nature, you don't see many examples.
This is most likely a rare combination of factors;
A particularly high number of local snails
A particularly high number of local predators
A crop circle making the usual conditions of the filed different and allowing the predators to get at the snails easier.

 

[Stray Cat]

It isn't, the area is so remote, only a group of college students could find it.

Not at all... anyone with access to Google Earth could find it.

 

[Akhenaten]

This area is remote. That means to me, not many bored college students.

Which is relevant because ______________________ ?

I thought we ruled out everybody else.

We, chuck, have done no such thing.

Are you suggesting the farmers did it?

It doesn't appear so. Perhaps you could highlight that part of my post that you believe is making this suggestion.

 

[Stray Cat]

I thought we ruled out everybody else. Are you suggesting the farmers did it?

You may have ruled everybody out... "we" certainly didn't.

Do you really think that England only has bored students and farmers?

Vision my dear Watson, vision is important while creating a complex formation in a farmers field at night while he sleepeth.

Vision is important when reading posts on the forum.
Not really so much in circlemaking as has been pointed out to you already.
It help to be able to see a bit, but the human eye adapts to the amount of dark above ground quite nicely enough thanks.

I stick by that statement, I didn't say however that there's not a dark place in all of England. So what's your point?

The point is that you said it was "remote" when yesterday you were claiming England was only small. Now you're trying to deflect to "darkness" when it's been pointed out to you that night time darkness isn't a problem.

 

[Akhenaten]

It isn't, the area is so remote, only a group of college students could find it.

Not at all... anyone with access to Google Earth could find it.

I'm not 100% sure that's true. There are those amongst us who would have trouble telling their arse from their elbow without a set of written instructions.

 

[Stray Cat]

I'm not 100% sure that's true. There are those amongst us who would have trouble telling their arse from their elbow without a set of written instructions.

True that.

There appear to be some who couldn't tell their arse from their elbow even with a set of written instructions. It'd be "But my arse is too remote, I'd never be able to find it without the help of some bored students"

 

[chuck4842]

I'm not 100% sure that's true. There are those amongst us who would have trouble telling their arse from their elbow without a set of written instructions.

Yet we have here a crime of trespassing which includes a destruction of a manufactured product for the sake of public attention. These trespassers aren't necessarilly college students.

 

[RoboTimbo]

Yet we have here a crime of trespassing which includes a destruction of a manufactured product for the sake of public attention. These trespassers aren't necessarilly college students.

What are they?