Criticize My Diet Plan

I'm no expert on diets, but the subject of fasting has come up from time to time here and elsewhere, and I would just add that while it can obviously be a good way not to eat too much, you should be very careful, first of all to make sure that you do not suffer too much from fluctuations of blood sugar, which affect some people quite badly, and second, to be very careful operating any dangerous machinery until you're sure of what regular fasting will do to you. I am not much bothered by skipping a meal or two, but found long ago that I could not safely operate woodworking machines and the like when fasting. You want to lose weight from your midriff, not your fingers!
 
Morchella said:
I get your schtick Squeegie. Pretentiously pick apart everyones comments without citing anything because you are always right.
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What do you think requires citation? And, if you believe that it's necessary, why have you not provided any citations of your own.

You do not understand what aerobic exercise is.
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Yes I do.

Working 75 hours straight or lifting stuff a lot is not aerobic.
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I didn't say it was.

Aerobic is maintaining a sustained heart rate.
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Correct.

Now where did you say you did that?
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Squeegee Beckenheim said:
I spend an hour walking to work. [...] I then walk home for another hour.
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We have a disagreement about what is aerobic.
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Maybe we do. But I have health professionals on my side, so I think I'll trust what they say over you. And, just because you asked so nicely, have a citation.

At least 150 minutes (2 hours and 30 minutes) of moderate-intensity aerobic activity such as cycling or fast walking every week,
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I do almost all of that in one day.

Again, You clearly said you have health risks[...]
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No I didn't.

otherwise explain this sentence,

"Or find an alternative which is equally effective and which doesn't have any health risks. Like I have."
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Dear God.

You said that calorie controlled dieting was hard and that people just had to deal with it. I said that an alternative was to find a diet which had no health risks and which was equally effective, like I had.

Seriously, there's no way any reasonable reading of those two sentences can come away with the idea that it's me who has "health risks" (whatever that phrase would be supposed to mean in that context), rather than the diet which doesn't.

Christ almighty.

How am I supposed to decipher that to mean you don't have health risks?
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Pre-school reading comprehension should do it.

Please explain to me how the human body does not conform to the laws of thermodynamics and please leave out the not so veiled insults this time.
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I didn't say it didn't conform to the laws of thermodynamics, I said that losing weight wasn't just a matter of calories in vs. calories out. Calorific intake affects metabolism, and metabolism affects weight loss. And what you eat is also important.
 
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Oh Squeegee, Now you say you do fast walking. That is aerobic. Do you try to maintain a heart rate? I assumed when you said walking you were just lollygagging like normal walking which is NOT aerobic. How did you get overweight then? Why are you dieting? With all that exercise you claim to be doing you should be ripped. It's hard to keep track of what you say when you edit most of your posts. Write it right the first time please.
As for thermodynamics it IS as easy as calories in = calories out. That is exactly what it means. Resting metabolic rate does not change much unless you subject yourself to hard sustained work over and over and over. It is not easy to change your metabolic rate. Please explain your premise, "Calorific intake affects metabolism" I can't make sense of it? Do you mean that if I eat the whole thing my metabolic rate changes? You have a tendency to pull facts from your backside.
These sentences "Or find an alternative which is equally effective and which doesn't have any health risks. Like I have." were poorly worded. You could have written one sentence more clearly like this,
'Or find an alternative like I have which is equally effective and which doesn't have any health risks.'
See the difference? I might have been more concise. Poor writing skills and misspelling are your forte.
I poo pooed fasting because I think it's a lousy strategy. It will do nothing to increase your metabolic rate. This thread is about critique and now you know what I think about fasting. Big deal. I didn't mean to twist your panties in a bunch.
 
Morchella said:
Oh Squeegee, Now you say you do fast walking. That is aerobic.
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I'm glad you agree. See what happens when you don't make assumptions? You can learn actual information and base your opinions on facts. A much better way to approach the world.

Write it right the first time please.
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I'm just going to point at a couple of your earlier posts and withhold further comment.

Resting metabolic rate does not change much unless you subject yourself to hard sustained work over and over and over. It is not easy to change your metabolic rate. Please explain your premise, "Calorific intake affects metabolism" I can't make sense of it? Do you mean that if I eat the whole thing my metabolic rate changes? You have a tendency to pull facts from your backside.
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Leaving aside the issues of what the hell "the whole thing" is supposed to be, and that once more you're requesting citations without providing any yourself, I'll indulge you, if you like: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19198647

Calorie restriction slows the metabolism which slows weight loss. The picture you're painting is overly simplistic. The body is a complex machine with all sorts of self-correcting mechanisms.

These sentences "Or find an alternative which is equally effective and which doesn't have any health risks. Like I have." were poorly worded.
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If you say so. I'll leave it up to the peanut gallery to decide whether I have a problem expressing myself or whether you have a problem with reading comprehension. Or both.

And, indeed, I'll leave it up to the readers of this thread to decide which of us writes better.

I poo pooed fasting because I think it's a lousy strategy. It will do nothing to increase your metabolic rate.
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Nobody said it did.

This thread is about critique and now you know what I think about fasting.
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You're entitled to whatever opinion you want. I'm entitled to point out when that opinion is ill-informed, or based on myth.
 
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Morchella said:
Oh Squeegee, Now you say you do fast walking. That is aerobic. Do you try to maintain a heart rate? I assumed when you said walking you were just lollygagging like normal walking which is NOT aerobic. How did you get overweight then? Why are you dieting? With all that exercise you claim to be doing you should be ripped. It's hard to keep track of what you say when you edit most of your posts. Write it right the first time please.
As for thermodynamics it IS as easy as calories in = calories out. [...].
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After most of the panty-twisting was removed.
 
Just do the South Beach diet. Low carb diets works. I use it with Atkins products.
 
Morchella said:
It's hard to keep track of what you say when you edit most of your posts. Write it right the first time please.
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Maybe it's just me, but I've had no trouble understanding Squeegee. OTOH, some of your statements have been kind of off-topic or directed at no-one. Some people call these straw man arguments ;)
 
So Squeegee...Your premise, "Calorific intake affects metabolism" is still ambiguous. Once again, poor writing skills. Maybe at first you should have said, "Calorie restriction slows the metabolism which slows weight loss." That's common knowledge. "Caloric intake" does not automatically imply restriction. "Calorific intake could just as easily mean eating the whole thing. You see now? Your citation demolishes your argument for fasting. That is what I didn't understand. Now explain after your citation how fasting is so great.
To eat "the whole thing" is a 70s meme. I guess you are too young to know.
 
Morchella said:
So Squeegee...Your premise, "Calorific intake affects metabolism" is still ambiguous. Once again, poor writing skills. Maybe at first you should have said, "Calorie restriction slows the metabolism which slows weight loss." That's common knowledge. "Caloric intake" does not automatically imply restriction. "Calorific intake could just as easily mean eating the whole thing. You see now? Your citation demolishes your argument for fasting. That is what I didn't understand. Now explain after your citation how fasting is so great.
To eat "the whole thing" is a 70s meme. I guess you are too young to know.
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Okay, if you say so.
 
Criticize My Diet Plan
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Okay, Your diet plan is ugly and dresses funny.

Oh, Did you mean "critique?" :)

I personally didn't like fasting or super short rations when I tried it because I tended to overeat when I was allowed food. I also noticed I would binge after a hard workout which might be fine for building muscle but not helpful for meeting military height-and-weight.

On thing that worked for me was "buying my clothes" with pushups and situps in the morning and again in the evening. Five pushups, put on underpants. Five more, put on left sock. After a couple weeks I found I could do five pushups and then 5 sit ups per garment. The best part was getting undressed at night and Mrs. Gnomon would offer to do "the last five pushups" to get my undies off. :D

With aerobic exercise I read that your body will continue to burn calories for as much as 8 hours after 20 minutes of sustained heart rate activity. Doing a set of jumping jacks before getting undressed on no-gym nights meant that even while sleeping my body was processing more calories than if I hadn't.

Good luck. There are actual doctors and actual active people here, so I hope you get good ideas that help you.
 
I like your idea of a healthy food fast. Good for the psychology of the whole thing.

But I challenge you to do a complete day fast and not crave a bucket of Nandos and five chocolate bars by the middle of the day.
 
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Well, if you insist: your diet plan is mean, ugly, does not play well with others, runs with scissors , leaves it's trash wherever it drops and never does it's homework!!!
 
Brian-M said:
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I don't normally crave chocolate. Nandos on the other hand... Mmmmm. (But it's way too expensive for a fast food.)
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In good ol' SA we pay the equivalent of $3 for a Nandos meal. They do owe us, of course, since we were their first fans.
 
Any diet plan without exercise is at best less effective. Lift weights. Eat fish, grilled chicken, vegetables. Run or ride a bike. Repeat. Magic.
 
Damien Evans said:
It appears not to contain Nandos.

This is a mistake.
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On a serious note: Tips for fast days
1) Mix up a couple of mugs of cool-drink (kool-aid, or whatever reasonably low calorie mix drink you have), a little sweeter than normal
2) Place mugs in the deep freeze

On a fast day, if you're feeling really hungry, eat a mug of iced cool drink. It's a tasty treat that makes you feel full :)
 
Octavo said:
I often fast for a day, although seldom by choice and have found that once you are used to it, it's pretty easy to go a whole day without any food at all.
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I knew a guy in his 50s who maintained a lean, healthy weight by fasting every-other-day. He had been doing it for years at the time I met him. I wouldn't enjoy that, but it did allow him to basically eat as much as he wanted on the eating days.

ETA: I fasted for 3 days once (nothing but water). It sucked.
 
I knew a guy in his 50`s that ate as much as he wanted, every day, and didnt gain a pound. Including eating high calorie nuts and chocolates, and pop, even before going to bed.
And enjoyed every minute of it. Lol.
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Btw, if a person fasted every other day, but say ate twice as much in the eating days(albeit you only said ate as much as he wanted...whatever that amount might be, exactly)...that is a head scratcher, if say the person could lose weight doing that. Maybe said person had to run to the toilet right away after gorging themselves, as if at an all you can eat buffet.
Actually, that would almost always happen to me when id go to one of them places. Was never sure if it was caused by poor food handling or if the sudden volume of food in the gullet caused some sort of spasm. All i knew was, i had to get to the nearest gas station, and quick, or else.
 
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Whew! Just did my first proper exercise workout for a long while.

25 minutes of (aerobic?) exercises using 2kg (4.4lb) dumbbells. I thought I'd start off light because I haven't done them for a couple of years. I'll move up to my heavier ones after a few months.

It took me a while to find my old exercise CD. A little scratched up because it wasn't in a case, but it still works. I'd forgotten what was on it, and was pleasantly surprised by the great mix I'd chosen. (I think Poison is the perfect song to start a workout with.) I'd even put in a Mozart track at the 25 minute mark so I'd know when it was time to stop instead of having to use a timer.

At the end of the session I checked my pulse (playing with the heart-rate monitor watch I'd bought at the same time as my new scale), came up with 127 beats per minute.

Wait a sec... still 101 BPM even after the time it took to type all this up.
 
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