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Criminal Behavior Against US Police Officers

Kingsville, Texas officer Sherman Otto Benys was shot and killed while responding to a domestic dispute call.


Henry County, Georgia officer Paramhans Desai was shot and killed while responding to a domestic dispute call.


Jackson County Deputy Lena Nicole Marshall was shot and killed while responding to a domestic dispute call.


No pizza delivery boys or convenience store clerks were harmed in any of the shootings.
 
america is a violent society. Due to its history people reach for guns to solve problems far more than they should. People shoot cops. Cops shoot people. Often in both cases this is in a situation that almost anywhere else in the world the shot would not be taken and no-one would die. I guess the factor that gets to some people is that in most of the world, because we are not gun nuts, we are appalled that those people who are supposed to serve and protect often shoot first and ask questions later and essentially get away with GBH or murder. Like it or not police services are held to a higher standard.
 
VIDEO: Deputy Fatally Shoots 88-Year-Old Retired Police Sergeant During Welfare Check
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https://policetribune.com/video-deputy-fatally-shoots-88-year-old-retired-police-sergeant-during-welfare-check/

Serves him right for being hard of hearing inside his own home

An 88-year-old retired Tampa police sergeant was fatally shot by a Hillsborough sheriff’s deputy during a welfare check at his home Tuesday morning (video below).

Retired Tampa Police Sergeant Ronald Ehrich, a widower living on his own, was very hard of hearing and “had to read your lips” if he wasn’t wearing his hearing aids, his friend, Angel Ortiz, told the Tampa Bay Times.


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If the retired police sergeant didn’t have his hearing aids in, he likely couldn’t hear the deputy and probably thought she was a home intruder, Ortiz told the Tampa Bay Times.
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SuburbanTurkey said:
https://policetribune.com/video-deputy-fatally-shoots-88-year-old-retired-police-sergeant-during-welfare-check/

Serves him right for being hard of hearing inside his own home
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It's almost never that you'll find me coming down on the side of the cops but, taking the circumstances immediately before she fired into consideration, one wonders what would have happened if she hadn't.

You have to bear in mind this was cop mentality -V- cop mentality - a sure fire recipe for disaster.
 
bluesjnr said:
It's almost never that you'll find me coming down on the side of the cops but, taking the circumstances immediately before she fired into consideration, one wonders what would have happened if she hadn't.

You have to bear in mind this was cop mentality -V- cop mentality - a sure fire recipe for disaster.
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When he announced he had a gun, she could have removed herself from the situation until backup arrived. That way, it could have been approached in a less stressful manner for all involved. She knew he was alive at that point, so allowing the situation to deescalate before proceeding sounds like the better option.
 
Disbelief said:
When he announced he had a gun, she could have removed herself from the situation until backup arrived. That way, it could have been approached in a less stressful manner for all involved. She knew he was alive at that point, so allowing the situation to deescalate before proceeding sounds like the better option.
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Excellent point, although I'm not sure that hearing a voice would have sealed the deal on it being him. The only way to be sure was to get eyes on and 'ol sarge was gunnin' for the old days.
 
bluesjnr said:
Excellent point, although I'm not sure that hearing a voice would have sealed the deal on it being him. The only way to be sure was to get eyes on and 'ol sarge was gunnin' for the old days.
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True, probably wanted to get eyes on him. Difficult situation for sure, but you would think that the police would have had some background information as well to make better decisions.
 
rdwight said:
Whenever I see these kinds of narratives, my mind immediately goes to the actual frequencies. Traffic stops/police interactions totals. Amount of times these escalate to situations like this.

Much like police shootings of suspects, it is such a small fraction that while terrible, does not represent the risk portrayed. I especially hate the mindset that is instilled in police because of these fringe incidents. The overall risk is minuscule, not matter how graphic the exceptions.
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This was said on the first page and its all that really needed to be said.
Cops are being taught to be more afraid than the ought to be based on the actuals risks, Americans, especially black men are also being taught to be more afraid of cops than they ought to be based on the actual risk.

The natural consequence of this is more people getting killed or hurt.
 
Disbelief said:
When he announced he had a gun, she could have removed herself from the situation until backup arrived. That way, it could have been approached in a less stressful manner for all involved. She knew he was alive at that point, so allowing the situation to deescalate before proceeding sounds like the better option.
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I mostly agree. She may not have known if the voice was his (she seemed to accept that it was) but at the mention of a gun I see no reason to risk it, even if the voice could have been an intruder. She had a clear exit and retreated into a corner instead.

But I don't know for sure, armchair QB and all. Tough call.
 
A Baltimore police officer is in critical condition after being shot during an ambush attack while sitting in a patrol car at 2am.

The knuckle dragging retard who recorded the aftermath is heard in the video saying "Don't call the police, don't."

The officer deserved to be shot for participating in modern-day slave patrols.
 
Bogative said:
Kingsville, Texas officer Sherman Otto Benys was shot and killed while responding to a domestic dispute call.


Henry County, Georgia officer Paramhans Desai was shot and killed while responding to a domestic dispute call.


Jackson County Deputy Lena Nicole Marshall was shot and killed while responding to a domestic dispute call.


No pizza delivery boys or convenience store clerks were harmed in any of the shootings.
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Man charged with murder after store clerk shot to death during attempt robbery, police say
https://www.click2houston.com/news/...t-to-death-during-attempt-robbery-police-say/

Police Arrest 15-Year-Old in Connection With Fatal Shooting, Robbery in Mesquite
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/store-clerk-shot-killed-during-robbery-in-mesquite/2818816/

No police officer or sherriff's deputies were harmed in any of the shootings.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
A strong take, but I won't argue.
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It should be noted that the officer is a black female who joined the force to help change it.
Holley joined the Police Department in 2019, at the age of 37. In a 2020 interview with the website Insider, Holley said she joined the department to help change officers’ relationship with the community.

“I feel like Baltimore city police officers have a bad name about themselves,” she said. “And we have to change that — and change it together.”
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ETA: 2 men have been arrested for the ambush shooting of the police officer and the murder of a another man a few hours later.

When it's revealed the two shooters are from the historically oppressed class, will their eventual convictions and incarceration be more proof of a "systemically racist justice system"?
 
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johnny karate said:
Post-January 6th, the right wing really doesn't hide their hatred for law enforcement anymore.
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You and I have been over this before in February, but I'll offer you a reminder since you seem to have forgotten. A quote from the "rioters storm and occupy the US capital" thread.

Bogative said:
My stance on how people who violently attack police officers with potentially deadly force is straightforward and does not waiver based on the perpetrators politics or ethnicity. They should be met with deadly force. Based on the videos I watched a month ago I would estimate there should've been about a dozen more body bags dragged out of the Capitol on January 6.
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CBS Baltimore previously ran a story about the impact Officer Keona Holley was having on her neighborhood. During the piece, a black man from the neighborhood mentions that he sees Holley sitting in a parking lot across the street all the time.

That's what BLM/Antifa and Democrats call "over policing," she deserved it.


As expected, the suspects are of the "historically oppressed class" and they both are convicted felons, one of whom was out on bail awaiting trial for being a felon in possession of a firearm.


Justin Johnson, the man murdered by these two thugs, was also black.

If some Karen would've videotaped these two men because they were wrongfully parked in a handicapped spot, at an apartment complex they weren't a resident of, at a HOA community swimming pool they weren't a member of, this would be a worldwide headline-grabbing story by now. But it wasn't, it was more black on black violence that has no race grifting angle so it will be mostly ignored.

Onward to the next "while black" thread.
 
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